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What do you use MEK for again?

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Gray Ghost - 01 Apr 2004 21:13 GMT
Noticed 1 gallon containers at the local Home Depot and remembered  seeing
MEK mentioned here. What are it's uses.

TIA,
Frank
Charles Fox - 01 Apr 2004 21:35 GMT
It glues.

You can even use it in a small needle-nosed squeeze bottle to flow into
joins between two pieces of plastic -- it'll handle ABS in addition to
others.

Vile stuff! Very poisonous. You do not want to get to know it well. Use it
sparingly. But it's good stuff.

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> Noticed 1 gallon containers at the local Home Depot and remembered  seeing
> MEK mentioned here. What are it's uses.
>
> TIA,
> Frank
Maiesm72 - 01 Apr 2004 22:11 GMT
>Noticed 1 gallon containers at the local Home Depot

Good God!!

I had a two ounce bottle that lasted for about thirty 1/72 models.

A gallon should last a lifetime...or a couple of Revell 1/72 U-Boats. :-)

As mentioned before, though, deadly stuff. I changed over to cyanoacrylates
years ago and I'm stillhappy with them. Five minute epoxy for really solid
connections such as resin kits wing to fuselage joints.

Tom
JP5844 - 02 Apr 2004 11:38 GMT
>As mentioned before, though, deadly stuff.

Acutally it is less harmful than Toluene (the main ingredient in most styrene
glues)

MEK has a PEL (Permissible Exposure Level) of 200 ppm whereas Toluene's is 100
ppm. Toluene is also a known carcinogen where MEK hasn't been classified yet.

Here's the EPA link on Methyl Ethyl Ketone

http://www.epa.gov/ttn/atw/hlthef/methylet.html

and for Toluene

http://www.epa.gov/ttnatw01/hlthef/toluene.html

Methyl Ethyl Ketone has a stronger odor and for that reason people freak out
when they smell it in ANY concentration and are certain they are gonna die. But
when they get a whiff of a product like Toluene which is much more harmful they
don't think twice because it doesn't smell as strong.

MEK is a very useful solvent and can be used with no adverse side effects IF
USED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE DIRECTIONS ON THE LABEL ON THE CONTAINER! The main
consideration is to reduce the concentration level of the vapors given off.
This is done by increasing ventilation... The more ventilation you have the
less the concentration there is.

How do I know all this? Because part of my job is to perform air quality
measurements of the different shops at the helicopter company where I am
employed as the Environmental Manager.

Jonathan Primm
JP5844@aol.com

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Mike Keown - 02 Apr 2004 00:34 GMT
> Noticed 1 gallon containers at the local Home Depot and remembered  seeing
> MEK mentioned here. What are it's uses.
>
> TIA,
> Frank

Destroying Brain Cells
Mike IPMS
Eyeball2002308 - 02 Apr 2004 01:05 GMT
my industrial painter brother says they use it to cut paint as well...I'd still
avoid it except in small amounts
Gray Ghost - 02 Apr 2004 02:24 GMT
> my industrial painter brother says they use it to cut paint as
> well...I'd still avoid it except in small amounts

OK no MEK for me then.

Thanks!
Ron - 02 Apr 2004 05:13 GMT
Thinning some types of lacquer, epoxy and polyurethane paints, general
solvent for many plastics, stinky and not all that good for
you.....truly you don't need it for models Frank.

> Noticed 1 gallon containers at the local Home Depot and remembered  seeing
> MEK mentioned here. What are it's uses.
>
> TIA,
> Frank
Max Bryant - 02 Apr 2004 06:39 GMT
I bought a small can once to use when I was looking for a liquid cement to
try out. After doing some plumbing work with my father in law I thought I
could save money on model glue. After all 3.00 a pop for 2 ounces of Tenax/
Weld On is kind of high, IMO. MEK seemed to be the thinnest stuff I could
find and I had read some modelers were using it. The caustic smell of the
MEK was enough to make me use this only that once.
Seems like a good way to kill yourself really quickly.

Want to save some bucks on Tenax/ Weld On type liquid glue? Find a Plastics
supplier and ask for Methylene Chloride. This is the liquid glue we modelers
of the 21st century rave about. Tenax and most liquid model cements are just
Methylene Chloride! I bought a pint bottle for 8  bucks last year and this
has got to be enough to fill about twenty or more tenax sixed bottles.
Cheers,
Max Bryant

Cheers,
Max Bryant
> Noticed 1 gallon containers at the local Home Depot and remembered  seeing
> MEK mentioned here. What are it's uses.
>
> TIA,
> Frank
Azzz1588 - 03 Apr 2004 00:52 GMT
>Want to save some bucks on Tenax/ Weld On type liquid glue? Find a Plastics
>supplier and ask for Methylene Chloride. This is the liquid glue we modelers
>of the 21st century rave about. Tenax and most liquid model cements are just
>Methylene Chloride! I bought a pint bottle for 8  bucks last year and this
>has got to be enough to fill about twenty or more tenax sixed bottles.
>Cheers,

Dont for a minute think that it is not harfull to you !!!!
MC is what is used to strip furniture, and though not as
bad as MEK, is is absorbed through the skin just as
easilly, and with high enough exposure can be harmfull.
Vapors are heavier that air, and sink to the floor quickly.
Good thng to keep away from pets when working with it.

Tenax, is a *watered* down refined Methylene Chloride
not as strong as full strength MC. I preffer Ambroids Pro Weld
which is less refined and is stronger than Tenax.

NEITHER one is good for you, so just avoid breathing the vapors
too much, and store it in a safe place away from kid's and pets.

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