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AMS Defeated!!!

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Maiesm72 - 06 Apr 2004 21:17 GMT
During home remodeling, ESM 72 deadlines and going through the now six linear
feet of books and magazines to be processed I emptied a few boxes that had been
in storage for several years.

In one I found a Heller MS.225 that I had almost finished about thirty years
back. By utilizing after dinner free time I actually rigged and finished the
little beast! Rigging turned out to be easier than it looked and I was able to
match the paint used oh so long ago.

I wondered how long ago I had finished a model. Aside from contract jobs it was
May, 2002, the Roden PKZ-2, that I entered in the Santa Rosa contest. A onth or
so later I added figures, a ladder and attached cable reels. I started a couple
of kits and did the research and after market shopping on several more, but
just finished the one kit.

The minute that I finished the MS.225 I pulled out the two Aeroteam Yak-11s
that I am converting to my current ride (one detailed for me and one simple for
the aircraft owner). The exhaust stacks (seven on each side) for the P&W R2000
had slowed me down. I had cut brass tubing, filing and shaping each little
piece, for one side. Last night I hauled out som very thin plastic tubing,
heated and stretched, shaped and re-bored twenty-eight exhaust stubs in a
little more than an hour and they look great!

I actually feel that I'll have them ready for the May 1 IPMS Santa Rosa
contest. That's when I realized that I seem to have beaten AMS.

Tom  
OXMORON1 - 06 Apr 2004 21:50 GMT
Tom wrote:
>In one I found a Heller MS.225 that I had almost finished about thirty years
>back. By utilizing after dinner free time I actually rigged and finished the
>little beast!

Gosh Tom, If thirty years to finish a model is defeating AMS, then I have
beaten the hell out of it! I just finished a ten year project!

Rick
Maiesm72 - 06 Apr 2004 23:50 GMT
>Gosh Tom, If thirty years to finish a model is defeating AMS, then I have
>beaten the hell out of it! I just finished a ten year project!

I was looking over the stack of started projects and the MS.225 was probably
the oldest.

There is an Airfix C-47 converted to a XCG-17 glider that Dave Boksanski helped
me with and an Airfix SAAB J.35, both of which stopped at cockpit and other
details.

The Meikraft Long Midget Mustang was one of those "crank it out" kits that had
so many shape problems I just got pissed of. It's about 40% complete and I may
finish it for the May 1 contest. That's about twelve years old.

There are about a dozen in all. How about you guys? How many started kits that
have been awaiting attention for years?

Tom
CSRZ28 - 07 Apr 2004 03:23 GMT
<...........................>.

> There are about a dozen in all. How about you guys? How many started kits that
> have been awaiting attention for years?
>
> Tom

No, mommy no! I don't wanna go there!!!!!

Somewhere in the 3-4 boxes marked Started are around 30 kits, not counting
figures.
95% date from the mid '80s, (model A/C display for bar owner who sold out)
Oldest from my own 'to do' list is Revell 1/720 Big E from early 80s
1/48 C-47 w/Shep Payne's book and Tamiya 1/700 Hornet w/ Mitchell mid 80s
IIRC
custom '94 S-10 started about 10 yrs ago

And then there are the 15 or so A/C, auto and figures making sure the dust
doesn't get to the tables, all while I drag out yet another wanna do. Maybe
I (we) have AADS :-)
--
Chuck Ryan
CSRZ28@REMOVEearthlink.net
Springfield OH
smilodon - 07 Apr 2004 03:51 GMT
> <...........................>.
> >
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> CSRZ28@REMOVEearthlink.net
> Springfield OH

That sounds a little familiar, I got three foot lockers with started kits in
them and some more in boxes.  I just don't know how many there are in all
(at least not anymore)

Smilodon
Bill Banaszak - 07 Apr 2004 05:34 GMT
> How about you guys? How many started kits that
> have been awaiting attention for years?

And here I was enjoying the group tonight!  ;]
Like Chuck, I don't think I want to know how many.  I could look it up
on the other computer where the inventory is or I could go downstairs
and look at the shelves with crippled birds waiting the return of my
attention.  Cars are more guilty-friendly.  They hide in their boxes.
Let's just say, 'many'.

Bill Banaszak, MFE
Maiesm72 - 07 Apr 2004 06:03 GMT
>Let's just say, 'many'.
>
>Bill Banaszak, MFE

You're making me feel better, Bill. :-)

I've done more work on the Yaks in the last two days than in the last six
months!

Tom
e - 07 Apr 2004 18:34 GMT
>> How about you guys? How many started kits that
>> have been awaiting attention for years?
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>
>Bill Banaszak, MFE

27, not bad for a 18 month's return to modeling.
mostly i'm trying to find a fan for my paint cabinet.
William H. Shuey - 07 Apr 2004 22:16 GMT
> > How about you guys? How many started kits that
> > have been awaiting attention for years?
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>
> Bill Banaszak, MFE

This condition more or less lead to my only New Year's Resolution for
2004, Not to open another box until I had finished most of the half
built models sitting around the cellar. So far, I have managed to keep
it.

                            Bill Shuey
Bill Banaszak - 08 Apr 2004 02:47 GMT
> This condition more or less lead to my only New Year's Resolution for
> 2004, Not to open another box until I had finished most of the half
> built models sitting around the cellar. So far, I have managed to keep
> it.
>
>                                                         Bill Shuey

Congratulations on your self-discipline!  I'd have to stick to that for
longer than a year, I'd wager.

Bill Banaszak, MFE
Rob Grinberg - 08 Apr 2004 04:43 GMT
Yeah Bill, I remember the exchange of posts in January.  Good to see that
*you're* still keeping to it....

RobG
(hiding the newly opened boxes...)

> > > How about you guys? How many started kits that
> > > have been awaiting attention for years?
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>
> Bill Shuey
William H. Shuey - 08 Apr 2004 18:54 GMT
FWIW  I might have done myself a lot more good financially if I had also
resolved not to buy a kit unless I had finished one, but I figured that
would just be too difficult.         :-)

                            Bill Shuey

> Yeah Bill, I remember the exchange of posts in January.  Good to see that
> *you're* still keeping to it....
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> >
> > Bill Shuey
Rob van Riel - 07 Apr 2004 12:43 GMT
> There are about a dozen in all. How about you guys? How many started kits that
> have been awaiting attention for years?

Judgeing from the other replies, I guess I'm the odd one out in this
respect. The answer is about a dozen individual miniatures, maybe even
less. Other than that there are a few aircraft that were started when
the going was necessarily slow on other kits (watching paint dry is so
much more interesting when you're building another kit in the meantime
:-), and that have been unattended for a number of months now.
However, I don't really count those, because as far as I' concerned
they're still on the active list; they'll become the primary projects
as soon as the current ones are finished, and other kits will take
their place as filler.

Of course, this might have something to do with the fact that I got
tired of looking at half built kits a long time ago, and either
finished or dumped the lot of them.

Rob
Mark Schynert - 07 Apr 2004 23:13 GMT
> >Gosh Tom, If thirty years to finish a model is defeating AMS, then I have
> >beaten the hell out of it! I just finished a ten year project!
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>
> Tom

I guess it all depends one how one defines 'started.' I have done a
minimal amount of work on a Execuform Stinson Reliant, dating back maybe
fifteen years, but almost all the pieces are still on the carrier, and
i've done nothing to round up the detail bits to detail it (interior,
engine and struts, at a minimum.) Others that are hanging fire:

1/74 Glencoe subchaser--I got the hull together about five years ago and
did a little bit of other cleanup, but that's as far as I've gotten.

1/72 High Planes Mustang X--I've got the major components to passable
dry fit and a few pieces glued together. Started in late 2002.

1/72 Frog [Airlines] Miles Master II or III (depends on the markings I
cobble together for it)--Interior nearly done; I expect to finish this
for Santa Rosa. However, it qualifies as 'for years' because I bought
the kit at the Nationals in 1998 intending to build it 'right away.' I
didn't start until February '04.

I've got four other kits underway, but all are less than a year from
start date.

Mark Schynert
Woody - 13 Apr 2004 06:18 GMT
Tom, I still have an original Memphis Belle kit from Revell that is on
the back of the bench.  I also have a Revell 1/32 F4 from my time in
country.  Those are my oldest ones that I haven't finished.

Woody

>>Gosh Tom, If thirty years to finish a model is defeating AMS, then I have
>>beaten the hell out of it! I just finished a ten year project!
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>
> Tom
Rufus - 07 Apr 2004 02:20 GMT
> During home remodeling, ESM 72 deadlines and going through the now six linear
> feet of books and magazines to be processed I emptied a few boxes that had been
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>
> Tom  

Nah...it's incurable...you're just in a brief remission...;)

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     - Rufus

Jer038 - 07 Apr 2004 22:44 GMT
>That's when I realized that I seem to have beaten AMS.
>>
>> Tom  
>
>Nah...it's incurable...you're just in a brief remission...;)

"Calm before the storm"  
it gets worse

J.B.
Maiesm72 - 08 Apr 2004 06:36 GMT
>"Calm before the storm"  
>it gets worse

Oh man!

You were right, but not in the direction that I thought it would take.

Lynne asked me to clear the work bench of the Yak stuff so that she could do
the next ESM 72 editorial. I just proofed it and she is doing a model for the
May 1 contest! She wanted something really simple, but eyecatching.

A PM F-86 Sabre is about as simple as they come. Camoflaged in Israeli markings
is about as eyecatching as possible. One photograph is all that there is, so
she has to use a bit of imagination.

Other than the diorama (which I did a good deal of) that she used for her
Master's thesis, this is her first model.

I may end up having to wait in line for my workbench!!!

Tom
e - 08 Apr 2004 07:49 GMT
>>"Calm before the storm"  
>>it gets worse
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>
>Tom
accept that you need to build another.
Rob Kelk - 08 Apr 2004 15:33 GMT
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>>Other than the diorama (which I did a good deal of) that she used for her
>>Master's thesis, this is her first model.
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>
> accept that you need to build another.

What, you want him to start building something else?  Who knows when
it'll be finished?

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Mike G. - 08 Apr 2004 05:25 GMT
Ok...I'm stupid....What is AMS?
Mike
WmB - 08 Apr 2004 06:09 GMT
> Ok...I'm stupid....What is AMS?
> Mike

Advanced Modeler's Syndrome. But I'm not sure which is advanced, the
modeler or the syndrome. ;-)

WmB

To reply, get the HECK out of there
HELLinhock@earthlink.net
Mike G. - 08 Apr 2004 13:33 GMT
God! I think I've got that too! Takes me months (years) to do a kit, in fact
I've got  three that were started back in 2001 that are not finished.
Mike

> > Ok...I'm stupid....What is AMS?
> > Mike
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> To reply, get the HECK out of there
> HELLinhock@earthlink.net
OXMORON1 - 08 Apr 2004 16:25 GMT
Mike wrote:
>God! I think I've got that too! Takes me months (years) to do a kit, in fact
>I've got  three that were started back in 2001 that are not finished.

Yep, you've got the early symptoms. You don't appear to be terminal yet, so go
to the hobby shop and pray!
As the symptoms develop, completion rate drops, number of unfinished models
increases, inability to be satisfied and stop detailing a certain item
increases.
When it takes you 10 years to complete a model, you defintely are suffering
from the syndrome.
One method to alleviate the effect is to build a kit out of the box every once
in a while, but this is not a cure.

Rick
MFE
Mike G. - 09 Apr 2004 01:30 GMT
Thank you Dr. Rick, for that diagnosis, I'll try that.
I've taken a hiatus from building till I get this Associates Degree out of
the way, and that is done in May.
Then I'm going to get back into it, big time!
Also, divorce will be final, so won't have that distraction either.
Just me and the two grown kids here now.
No worrys......;-)
Mike G.

> Yep, you've got the early symptoms. You don't appear to be terminal yet, so go
> to the hobby shop and pray!
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> Rick
> MFE
OXMORON1 - 09 Apr 2004 17:36 GMT
Mike wrote regarding an amateur diagnosis of early AMS:

>Thank you Dr. Rick, for that diagnosis,

Sssssh! Don't tell them that I am practicing therapy without a license. They'll
pull my Xacto and raise my insurance again.
A "slammer" every once in a while is good for the soul.
Then I've got a Cleveland P-6E that I have been converting from balsa to
plastic for over 10 years.

Rick
MFE
Bill Banaszak - 09 Apr 2004 03:14 GMT
> God! I think I've got that too! Takes me months (years) to do a kit, in fact
> I've got  three that were started back in 2001 that are not finished.

LOL, I've got a Spitfire here that was decalled on one side only during
the Winter of '75-'76.  I'm hoping the rest of the markings are still to
be found.
I had a Hasegawa B-47 that was started back in '68 but I got tired of
seeing it around so I sold it.

Bill Banaszak, MFE
e - 09 Apr 2004 04:32 GMT
>> God! I think I've got that too! Takes me months (years) to do a kit, in fact
>> I've got  three that were started back in 2001 that are not finished.
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>
>Bill Banaszak, MFE

are there many problems with that 47 bill?
i have one and had high hopes for it.
Bill Banaszak - 10 Apr 2004 03:42 GMT
> >> God! I think I've got that too! Takes me months (years) to do a kit, in fact
> >> I've got  three that were started back in 2001 that are not finished.
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> are there many problems with that 47 bill?
> i have one and had high hopes for it.

The biggest problem was getting the white undersides painted on it.
Most whites tend to yellow with age and I was fooling around trying to
work that out.  There is, of course, the natural metal part to fuss with
too.  Construction had reached the point of adding the wings to the
fuselage and one attempt at painting the undersides.
Aside from the ongoing effort to downsize the collection numerically and
physically there was Hobbycraft's neat little 1/144th kit.  That kind of
doomed the big one.  I sold it and the B-52, B-1A and B-36 to a friend
in the secondhand kit business.

Bill Banaszak, MFE
e - 10 Apr 2004 05:31 GMT
>> >> God! I think I've got that too! Takes me months (years) to do a kit, in
> fact
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>
>Bill Banaszak, MFE
i'll give it a shot anyway. seems like a pretty simple kit.
 
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