AMS Defeated!!!
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Maiesm72 - 06 Apr 2004 21:17 GMT During home remodeling, ESM 72 deadlines and going through the now six linear feet of books and magazines to be processed I emptied a few boxes that had been in storage for several years.
In one I found a Heller MS.225 that I had almost finished about thirty years back. By utilizing after dinner free time I actually rigged and finished the little beast! Rigging turned out to be easier than it looked and I was able to match the paint used oh so long ago.
I wondered how long ago I had finished a model. Aside from contract jobs it was May, 2002, the Roden PKZ-2, that I entered in the Santa Rosa contest. A onth or so later I added figures, a ladder and attached cable reels. I started a couple of kits and did the research and after market shopping on several more, but just finished the one kit.
The minute that I finished the MS.225 I pulled out the two Aeroteam Yak-11s that I am converting to my current ride (one detailed for me and one simple for the aircraft owner). The exhaust stacks (seven on each side) for the P&W R2000 had slowed me down. I had cut brass tubing, filing and shaping each little piece, for one side. Last night I hauled out som very thin plastic tubing, heated and stretched, shaped and re-bored twenty-eight exhaust stubs in a little more than an hour and they look great!
I actually feel that I'll have them ready for the May 1 IPMS Santa Rosa contest. That's when I realized that I seem to have beaten AMS.
Tom
OXMORON1 - 06 Apr 2004 21:50 GMT Tom wrote:
>In one I found a Heller MS.225 that I had almost finished about thirty years >back. By utilizing after dinner free time I actually rigged and finished the >little beast! Gosh Tom, If thirty years to finish a model is defeating AMS, then I have beaten the hell out of it! I just finished a ten year project!
Rick
Maiesm72 - 06 Apr 2004 23:50 GMT >Gosh Tom, If thirty years to finish a model is defeating AMS, then I have >beaten the hell out of it! I just finished a ten year project! I was looking over the stack of started projects and the MS.225 was probably the oldest.
There is an Airfix C-47 converted to a XCG-17 glider that Dave Boksanski helped me with and an Airfix SAAB J.35, both of which stopped at cockpit and other details.
The Meikraft Long Midget Mustang was one of those "crank it out" kits that had so many shape problems I just got pissed of. It's about 40% complete and I may finish it for the May 1 contest. That's about twelve years old.
There are about a dozen in all. How about you guys? How many started kits that have been awaiting attention for years?
Tom
CSRZ28 - 07 Apr 2004 03:23 GMT <...........................>.
> There are about a dozen in all. How about you guys? How many started kits that > have been awaiting attention for years? > > Tom No, mommy no! I don't wanna go there!!!!!
Somewhere in the 3-4 boxes marked Started are around 30 kits, not counting figures. 95% date from the mid '80s, (model A/C display for bar owner who sold out) Oldest from my own 'to do' list is Revell 1/720 Big E from early 80s 1/48 C-47 w/Shep Payne's book and Tamiya 1/700 Hornet w/ Mitchell mid 80s IIRC custom '94 S-10 started about 10 yrs ago
And then there are the 15 or so A/C, auto and figures making sure the dust doesn't get to the tables, all while I drag out yet another wanna do. Maybe I (we) have AADS :-) -- Chuck Ryan CSRZ28@REMOVEearthlink.net Springfield OH
smilodon - 07 Apr 2004 03:51 GMT > <...........................>. > > [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > CSRZ28@REMOVEearthlink.net > Springfield OH That sounds a little familiar, I got three foot lockers with started kits in them and some more in boxes. I just don't know how many there are in all (at least not anymore)
Smilodon
Bill Banaszak - 07 Apr 2004 05:34 GMT > How about you guys? How many started kits that > have been awaiting attention for years? And here I was enjoying the group tonight! ;] Like Chuck, I don't think I want to know how many. I could look it up on the other computer where the inventory is or I could go downstairs and look at the shelves with crippled birds waiting the return of my attention. Cars are more guilty-friendly. They hide in their boxes. Let's just say, 'many'.
Bill Banaszak, MFE
Maiesm72 - 07 Apr 2004 06:03 GMT >Let's just say, 'many'. > >Bill Banaszak, MFE You're making me feel better, Bill. :-)
I've done more work on the Yaks in the last two days than in the last six months!
Tom
e - 07 Apr 2004 18:34 GMT >> How about you guys? How many started kits that >> have been awaiting attention for years? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE 27, not bad for a 18 month's return to modeling. mostly i'm trying to find a fan for my paint cabinet.
William H. Shuey - 07 Apr 2004 22:16 GMT > > How about you guys? How many started kits that > > have been awaiting attention for years? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Bill Banaszak, MFE This condition more or less lead to my only New Year's Resolution for 2004, Not to open another box until I had finished most of the half built models sitting around the cellar. So far, I have managed to keep it.
Bill Shuey
Bill Banaszak - 08 Apr 2004 02:47 GMT > This condition more or less lead to my only New Year's Resolution for > 2004, Not to open another box until I had finished most of the half > built models sitting around the cellar. So far, I have managed to keep > it. > > Bill Shuey Congratulations on your self-discipline! I'd have to stick to that for longer than a year, I'd wager.
Bill Banaszak, MFE
Rob Grinberg - 08 Apr 2004 04:43 GMT Yeah Bill, I remember the exchange of posts in January. Good to see that *you're* still keeping to it....
RobG (hiding the newly opened boxes...)
> > > How about you guys? How many started kits that > > > have been awaiting attention for years? [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Bill Shuey William H. Shuey - 08 Apr 2004 18:54 GMT FWIW I might have done myself a lot more good financially if I had also resolved not to buy a kit unless I had finished one, but I figured that would just be too difficult. :-)
Bill Shuey
> Yeah Bill, I remember the exchange of posts in January. Good to see that > *you're* still keeping to it.... [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > > Bill Shuey Rob van Riel - 07 Apr 2004 12:43 GMT > There are about a dozen in all. How about you guys? How many started kits that > have been awaiting attention for years? Judgeing from the other replies, I guess I'm the odd one out in this respect. The answer is about a dozen individual miniatures, maybe even less. Other than that there are a few aircraft that were started when the going was necessarily slow on other kits (watching paint dry is so much more interesting when you're building another kit in the meantime
:-), and that have been unattended for a number of months now. However, I don't really count those, because as far as I' concerned they're still on the active list; they'll become the primary projects as soon as the current ones are finished, and other kits will take their place as filler.
Of course, this might have something to do with the fact that I got tired of looking at half built kits a long time ago, and either finished or dumped the lot of them.
Rob
Mark Schynert - 07 Apr 2004 23:13 GMT > >Gosh Tom, If thirty years to finish a model is defeating AMS, then I have > >beaten the hell out of it! I just finished a ten year project! [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > Tom I guess it all depends one how one defines 'started.' I have done a minimal amount of work on a Execuform Stinson Reliant, dating back maybe fifteen years, but almost all the pieces are still on the carrier, and i've done nothing to round up the detail bits to detail it (interior, engine and struts, at a minimum.) Others that are hanging fire:
1/74 Glencoe subchaser--I got the hull together about five years ago and did a little bit of other cleanup, but that's as far as I've gotten.
1/72 High Planes Mustang X--I've got the major components to passable dry fit and a few pieces glued together. Started in late 2002.
1/72 Frog [Airlines] Miles Master II or III (depends on the markings I cobble together for it)--Interior nearly done; I expect to finish this for Santa Rosa. However, it qualifies as 'for years' because I bought the kit at the Nationals in 1998 intending to build it 'right away.' I didn't start until February '04.
I've got four other kits underway, but all are less than a year from start date.
Mark Schynert
Woody - 13 Apr 2004 06:18 GMT Tom, I still have an original Memphis Belle kit from Revell that is on the back of the bench. I also have a Revell 1/32 F4 from my time in country. Those are my oldest ones that I haven't finished.
Woody
>>Gosh Tom, If thirty years to finish a model is defeating AMS, then I have >>beaten the hell out of it! I just finished a ten year project! [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > Tom Rufus - 07 Apr 2004 02:20 GMT > During home remodeling, ESM 72 deadlines and going through the now six linear > feet of books and magazines to be processed I emptied a few boxes that had been [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > Tom Nah...it's incurable...you're just in a brief remission...;)
 Signature - Rufus
Jer038 - 07 Apr 2004 22:44 GMT >That's when I realized that I seem to have beaten AMS. >> >> Tom > >Nah...it's incurable...you're just in a brief remission...;) "Calm before the storm" it gets worse
J.B.
Maiesm72 - 08 Apr 2004 06:36 GMT >"Calm before the storm" >it gets worse Oh man!
You were right, but not in the direction that I thought it would take.
Lynne asked me to clear the work bench of the Yak stuff so that she could do the next ESM 72 editorial. I just proofed it and she is doing a model for the May 1 contest! She wanted something really simple, but eyecatching.
A PM F-86 Sabre is about as simple as they come. Camoflaged in Israeli markings is about as eyecatching as possible. One photograph is all that there is, so she has to use a bit of imagination.
Other than the diorama (which I did a good deal of) that she used for her Master's thesis, this is her first model.
I may end up having to wait in line for my workbench!!!
Tom
e - 08 Apr 2004 07:49 GMT >>"Calm before the storm" >>it gets worse [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >Tom accept that you need to build another.
Rob Kelk - 08 Apr 2004 15:33 GMT <snip>
>>Other than the diorama (which I did a good deal of) that she used for her >>Master's thesis, this is her first model. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > accept that you need to build another. What, you want him to start building something else? Who knows when it'll be finished?
 Signature Rob Kelk Personal address: robkelk -at- jksrv -dot- com Any opinions here are mine, not the Government's.
Mike G. - 08 Apr 2004 05:25 GMT Ok...I'm stupid....What is AMS? Mike
WmB - 08 Apr 2004 06:09 GMT > Ok...I'm stupid....What is AMS? > Mike Advanced Modeler's Syndrome. But I'm not sure which is advanced, the modeler or the syndrome. ;-)
WmB
To reply, get the HECK out of there HELLinhock@earthlink.net
Mike G. - 08 Apr 2004 13:33 GMT God! I think I've got that too! Takes me months (years) to do a kit, in fact I've got three that were started back in 2001 that are not finished. Mike
> > Ok...I'm stupid....What is AMS? > > Mike [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > To reply, get the HECK out of there > HELLinhock@earthlink.net OXMORON1 - 08 Apr 2004 16:25 GMT Mike wrote:
>God! I think I've got that too! Takes me months (years) to do a kit, in fact >I've got three that were started back in 2001 that are not finished. Yep, you've got the early symptoms. You don't appear to be terminal yet, so go to the hobby shop and pray! As the symptoms develop, completion rate drops, number of unfinished models increases, inability to be satisfied and stop detailing a certain item increases. When it takes you 10 years to complete a model, you defintely are suffering from the syndrome. One method to alleviate the effect is to build a kit out of the box every once in a while, but this is not a cure.
Rick MFE
Mike G. - 09 Apr 2004 01:30 GMT Thank you Dr. Rick, for that diagnosis, I'll try that. I've taken a hiatus from building till I get this Associates Degree out of the way, and that is done in May. Then I'm going to get back into it, big time! Also, divorce will be final, so won't have that distraction either. Just me and the two grown kids here now. No worrys......;-) Mike G.
> Yep, you've got the early symptoms. You don't appear to be terminal yet, so go > to the hobby shop and pray! [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Rick > MFE OXMORON1 - 09 Apr 2004 17:36 GMT Mike wrote regarding an amateur diagnosis of early AMS:
>Thank you Dr. Rick, for that diagnosis, Sssssh! Don't tell them that I am practicing therapy without a license. They'll pull my Xacto and raise my insurance again. A "slammer" every once in a while is good for the soul. Then I've got a Cleveland P-6E that I have been converting from balsa to plastic for over 10 years.
Rick MFE
Bill Banaszak - 09 Apr 2004 03:14 GMT > God! I think I've got that too! Takes me months (years) to do a kit, in fact > I've got three that were started back in 2001 that are not finished. LOL, I've got a Spitfire here that was decalled on one side only during the Winter of '75-'76. I'm hoping the rest of the markings are still to be found. I had a Hasegawa B-47 that was started back in '68 but I got tired of seeing it around so I sold it.
Bill Banaszak, MFE
e - 09 Apr 2004 04:32 GMT >> God! I think I've got that too! Takes me months (years) to do a kit, in fact >> I've got three that were started back in 2001 that are not finished. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE are there many problems with that 47 bill? i have one and had high hopes for it.
Bill Banaszak - 10 Apr 2004 03:42 GMT > >> God! I think I've got that too! Takes me months (years) to do a kit, in fact > >> I've got three that were started back in 2001 that are not finished. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > are there many problems with that 47 bill? > i have one and had high hopes for it. The biggest problem was getting the white undersides painted on it. Most whites tend to yellow with age and I was fooling around trying to work that out. There is, of course, the natural metal part to fuss with too. Construction had reached the point of adding the wings to the fuselage and one attempt at painting the undersides. Aside from the ongoing effort to downsize the collection numerically and physically there was Hobbycraft's neat little 1/144th kit. That kind of doomed the big one. I sold it and the B-52, B-1A and B-36 to a friend in the secondhand kit business.
Bill Banaszak, MFE
e - 10 Apr 2004 05:31 GMT >> >> God! I think I've got that too! Takes me months (years) to do a kit, in > fact [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE i'll give it a shot anyway. seems like a pretty simple kit.
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