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Steve Jahn - 09 Apr 2004 00:15 GMT I'm sure you are all familiar with the photo of the 707 Dash 80 Prototype doing the slow roll over the Seattle boat races. I have never seen a picture from the ground of this roll . The only picture I have seen is the one from the inside of the aircraft. Surely there would have been people on the ground taking pictures. This was a big event. Does any one know of any of these posible other photos? Thanks Steve
famvburg@webtv.net - 09 Apr 2004 03:19 GMT IIRC, there's video footage taken from the ground (water, actually, I think aboard a boat) that I've seen on The History Channel or more likely, on Discovery Wings channel.
Kitt - 09 Apr 2004 21:48 GMT By now many a years ago, TNN or TNT or TBS, sorry folks, memory is not up to what it used to be, ran a three or four two hour programs on Wings Of The World and they showed both from the ground and in flight (still pic, mind you) of the barrel roll of the Dash 80. On either Discover channel or Discover Wings they've shown footage from the ground.
As Tex Johnson, the test pilot for Boeing said, "If you keep one G, the plane doesn't know the difference". Or words to that effect.
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IIRC, there's video footage taken from the ground (water, actually, I think aboard a boat) that I've seen on The History Channel or more likely, on Discovery Wings channel.
WmB - 09 Apr 2004 21:59 GMT > By now many a years ago, TNN or TNT or TBS, sorry folks, memory is not up to > what it used to be, ran a three or four two hour programs on Wings Of The [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > As Tex Johnson, the test pilot for Boeing said, "If you keep one G, the > plane doesn't know the difference". Or words to that effect. Yes, The History Channel has been running a spot in their series of commercial length segments featuring interviews with witnesses to moments in history. The eyewitness to the barrel roll in this case was the then 11 yr old son of the test pilot.
I have seen the other ones with the lady that was at Pearl Harbor and the PT Boat sailor that saw the Spruce Goose test run. Are there any others?
WmB
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Kitt - 11 Apr 2004 19:25 GMT I beg to differ, but those short clips at the end of the programs are on Discovery Wings and they are great, only, I wish they got more besides the two you mention and the Hawaiian/Japanese gentleman.
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Yes, The History Channel has been running a spot in their series of commercial length segments featuring interviews with witnesses to moments in history. The eyewitness to the barrel roll in this case was the then 11 yr old son of the test pilot.
I have seen the other ones with the lady that was at Pearl Harbor and the PT Boat sailor that saw the Spruce Goose test run. Are there any others?
WmB
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WmB - 11 Apr 2004 22:34 GMT > I beg to differ, but those short clips at the end of the programs are on > Discovery Wings and they are great, only, I wish they got more besides the > two you mention and the Hawaiian/Japanese gentleman. I stand corrected.
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Bill Banaszak - 10 Apr 2004 03:50 GMT Kitt, that was on A&E, and I taped them all. I'm going to have to dig them out of the vault and review them just for that.
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Kitt - 11 Apr 2004 19:13 GMT Hi Bill. you're pushing the envelope here. Heh.
No, I'm sure it was not on A&E, since you're jogging my memory I'm almost sure it was TBS and I taped them all also. Great series.
Now here's a poser, at about the same period there was another series, Reaching For The Sky with great vintage footage. Maybe <that> one was on TBS. Dang !!
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Kitt, that was on A&E, and I taped them all. I'm going to have to dig them out of the vault and review them just for that.
Bill Banaszak, MFE
Bill Banaszak - 12 Apr 2004 02:40 GMT > Hi Bill. you're pushing the envelope here. Heh. > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Reaching For The Sky with great vintage footage. Maybe <that> one was on > TBS. Dang !! I was relying on the memory and I haven't been downstairs in the vault to check, so I could be wrong.
Bill Banaszak, MFE
Kitt - 12 Apr 2004 19:36 GMT Bill, what's that they say / (And who is "they" ? Heh) .
The first thing to go is the memory, the second ?.....Damn !...I forgot.
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Kitt
I was relying on the memory and I haven't been downstairs in the vault to check, so I could be wrong.
Bill Banaszak, MFE
Bill Banaszak - 12 Apr 2004 20:43 GMT > Bill, what's that they say / (And who is "they" ? Heh) . > > The first thing to go is the memory, the second ?.....Damn !...I forgot. > > Be well. Apparently the memory isn't gone...completely, yet. The results of my search are:
Reaching For The Skies - TNT - Robert Vaughn, narrarator Wings Over The World - A&E - Richard Todd, narrarator
Both series were aired in 1989, WOW apparently shown around Christmas judging from the commercials. TNT may not have known drama back then but their schedule was far more interesting. They seem to have sunk into a quagmire of re-running network TV. Tom Selleck doesn't make enough L'amour movies to add any regular sparkle to the schedule.
Actually the first thing that went for me was the teeth. ;)
Bill Banaszak, MFE
Kitt - 12 Apr 2004 22:19 GMT he first thing that went for me was the teeth.
Bill Banaszak, MFE
HA HA HA HA HA.
Touche on that one,
Be well.
Kitt
allenx3 - 10 Apr 2004 16:52 GMT untill 1967 1 used to live on the south coast of sussex in england .We used to get VC-10's , BAC-111's and many military types testing back and forth . one day we had a BAC-111 do a slow barrel roll . O those good old days of beverlys , hunters ,chipmunks ,dominies ,herons , doves , etc , etc Ken
Kitt - 11 Apr 2004 19:32 GMT Now here is another poser.
Years ago while channel surfing I came across a comment from a pilot stating that during flight tests the Concorde was barrel rolled ?!
untill 1967 1 used to live on the south coast of sussex in england .We used to get VC-10's , BAC-111's and many military types testing back and forth . one day we had a BAC-111 do a slow barrel roll . O those good old days of beverlys , hunters ,chipmunks ,dominies ,herons , doves , etc , etc Ken
Jonathan Stilwell - 11 Apr 2004 23:50 GMT > Now here is another poser. > > Years ago while channel surfing I came across a comment from a pilot stating > that during flight tests the Concorde was barrel rolled ?! Heard that one too; but not sure it was during flight test, and not sure it was a "barrel" roll as such. It may have been one of the early airline pilots being trained on the type. The instructor rolled it one way, then told the trainee to "unwind" it.
Jon.
Keeper - 18 Apr 2004 06:04 GMT >Heard that one too; but not sure it was during flight test, and not sure it >was a "barrel" roll as such. It may have been one of the early airline >pilots being trained on the type. The instructor rolled it one way, then >told the trainee to "unwind" it. > > Jon. Sounds like a chandelle... hth
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