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Model Forum / General / Models / April 2004Tamiya vs Hasegawa
Which company makes better model kits? >Which company makes better model kits? Tamiya, with Hasegawa running closely behind. -John Simple: "It depends on the kit." In ships there is no distinguishable quality difference anymore. Take the new Hasegawwa Kongo class JMSDF Aegis-equipped ship kits, for instance, and compare to the Tamiya Osumi class landing ship kits.  SignatureG Hassenpflug /* IJN & JMSDF */ > In ships there is no distinguishable quality difference anymore. Take > the new Hasegawwa Kongo class JMSDF Aegis-equipped ship kits, for > instance, and compare to the Tamiya Osumi class landing ship kits. Given that both companies typically turn out fine kits, and that each has the occasional lemon, this sort of question can only be meaningfully answered when one has a specific subject in mind that both offer, say 1/72 Mosquitos, for example. If you're simply looking for a nice kit and are not picky about the subject, picking one from either company at random off the shelf will 'probably' please you. Of course, you could get unlucky. Mark Schynert > Given that both companies typically turn out fine kits, and that each > has the occasional lemon, And each reissues kits made from old tooling from when standards weren't as high as now. Both make fine kits but both have gotten better. Don't expect every kit in a tamiya of Hasegawa box to be current state-of-the-art. Tom > > Given that both companies typically turn out fine kits, and that each > > has the occasional lemon, > > And each reissues kits made from old tooling ... and from the tooling of other manufacturers (at least in Hasegawa's case, don't know about Tamiya - can't, in fact, think of a non-Tamiya Tamiya.) > ... and from the tooling of other manufacturers (at least in Hasegawa's > case, don't know about Tamiya - can't, in fact, think of a non-Tamiya > Tamiya.) The X-1 originated with another company. They do release some other's people stuff in the home market, like the Amtech TA 183. Tom >> And each reissues kits made from old tooling > > ... and from the tooling of other manufacturers (at least in Hasegawa's > case, don't know about Tamiya - can't, in fact, think of a non-Tamiya > Tamiya.) Tamiya sells Italeri in Japan, and Hasegawa does Monogram/Revell I think. Can't think straight tonight.... SignatureG Hassenpflug /* IJN & JMSDF */ Do you have access to any of the Hasegawa 1/200 airliners in Disney Tokyo logos? TIA Tom > Do you have access to any of the Hasegawa 1/200 airliners in Disney Tokyo > logos? They are sold at the hobby stores here, yes. Is HLJ not stocking them? SignatureG Hassenpflug /* IJN & JMSDF */ >They are sold at the hobby stores here, yes. Is HLJ not stocking them? I have never dealt with them. Much prefer trading or purchasing from individuals. I have the JAL Disney on Tour 747 and I'm looking for others. Please let me know if you can help any. TIA Tom >>They are sold at the hobby stores here, yes. Is HLJ not stocking them? > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Please let me know if you can help any. Sorry, I don't have any, and it's not worth buying one to send to you - you can get a cheaper deal by paying with credit card at a regular retailer. SignatureG Hassenpflug /* IJN & JMSDF */ OK. Thanks anyway. Tom > Tamiya sells Italeri in Japan, and Hasegawa does Monogram/Revell I > think. Can't think straight tonight.... I have the AMtech Focke-Wulf Ta-183 "Huckebein" in a Tamiya packaging lying around somewhere. The main difference from the original AMtech release (apart from the box) is that it also comes with the Tamiya 1/48 Kettenkraftrad, and some generic Fw-190 decals instead of the AMtech Ta-183 ones. SignatureJohn Magne Stubsveen "I can smile. And murder while I smile." Tamiya rebox Italeri for the Japanese market and the AMTech Ta183 was released internationally by Tamiya Charlie > > > Given that both companies typically turn out fine kits, and that each > > > has the occasional lemon, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > case, don't know about Tamiya - can't, in fact, think of a non-Tamiya > Tamiya.) > the AMTech Ta183 was released internationally by Tamiya It got wider distribution than AmTech felt appropriate from their agreement, which was for the most part, their home market. Tom > Simple: > > "It depends on the kit." I opened both Tamiya's and Hasegawa's 1/48 P51D and did a "stare and compare". I preferred the Tamiya's detail. I have actually built neither, so I can't say anything about the fit. FWIW Doug Wagner > "It depends on the kit." ABSOLUTELY!!! I recently picked up an old (1972?) 1/72 Tamiya Raiden kit that had a canopy so roughly molded it looked like course sandpaper had been rubbed on it. There is virtually no interior and the fit is average at best. And the ancient 1/72 Hasegawa F-4J Phantom II kit (1968?) was an almost exact duplicate of the 1965 1/72 scale Revell F-4B kit with huge rivets added. Seems like us "old-timers" forget about what used to be and the relative newcomers never knew how "bad" the early Tamiya and Hasegawa kits were. But, to their credit, these two manufactures made the steady progression from crawling, to walking, to running and have become the top of the craft. They deserve the accolades they now receive and are justly rewarded by their constant efforts to improve the quality of their products. Martin Both companies make quality kits. What you do to them is an entirely different matter. Cheers, Max Bryant > Which company makes better model kits? > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > *** Usenet.com - The #1 Usenet Newsgroup Service on The Planet! *** > Unlimited Download - 19 Seperate Servers - 90,000 groups - Uncensored > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Which company makes better model kits? Man! That's like asking which is better, Blondes, Brunettes or Redheads! Bill Shuey (who has a helluva weakness for redheads) >That's like asking which is better, Blondes I preffer 5'2" brown eyed, 105 lb blonds. I WILL settle for brunette, or darker hair, but the 5"2" brown eyed 105 pounds part is not neogotiable !! "Only a Gentleman can insult me, and a true Gentleman never will..." > I WILL settle for brunette, or darker hair, but the 5"2" > brown eyed 105 pounds part is not neogotiable !! Wait till you put a ring on their finger or they hit 35. Then the only thing not negotiable is the 5'2" part. Well that is until they start shrinking when they get really old, but you' ll be dead or wishing you were by then :-) DOH! Cheers, Max Bryant That's not an easy question to answer, but in general the age of the kit decides a lot, older kits tend to be less detailed and precise. Also some subjects are better from one manefacturer than others. Also there's personal taste, take a 1:48 scale P-51D from each, and some will swear to the Hasegawa and others to the Tamiya (And som to the Revell, Airfix or what ever). SignatureClaus Gustafsen Strandby Denmark mail me at claus@gustafsen.nu Se my modeling at www.gustafsen.nu > Which company makes better model kits? > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > *** Usenet.com - The #1 Usenet Newsgroup Service on The Planet! *** > Unlimited Download - 19 Seperate Servers - 90,000 groups - Uncensored > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > Which company makes better model kits? > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > *** Usenet.com - The #1 Usenet Newsgroup Service on The Planet! *** > Unlimited Download - 19 Seperate Servers - 90,000 groups - Uncensored > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Depends on the subject... Signature- Rufus > Which company makes better model kits? I like the Mary Ann v. Ginger debate better.....:-) Craig > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > *** Usenet.com - The #1 Usenet Newsgroup Service on The Planet! *** > Unlimited Download - 19 Seperate Servers - 90,000 groups - Uncensored > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >> Which company makes better model kits? > >I like the Mary Ann v. Ginger debate better.....:-) > >Craig Mary Ann. Ginger's a slut. -John Ginger = Tamiya. Throw it together for quick satisfaction. Glitzy. Show it off to the boys at the pool hall. Mary Ann = Hasegawa. Takes a little more time, but somehow just feels better. Take her home to the parents. > > Which company makes better model kits? > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Unlimited Download - 19 Seperate Servers - 90,000 groups - Uncensored > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >Which company makes better model kits? Rght now I'm working on the 1/48 AV-8B II+ from Hasegawa. It is without a doubt the worst engineered modern kit I have encountered. The nose to fuselage junction, apparently engineered to allow multiple version of the AV-8 to be released, is terrible. The Monogram AV-8B by comparison is a model of simplicity. Between the fan, the nose and wing, I've done more fitting, gluing and refitting than a vacform. I've gotten eastern European short runs that go together better. Yes, the surface detail is finer, the fiddly bits more numerous and the finish is better, but what good is that covered in the putty that I'll probably need? All my Harriers in the future will be the simpler, more reliable Monogram release, and I'll never get another Hasegawa kit without reading a detailed review. > >Which company makes better model kits? > > Rght now I'm working on the 1/48 AV-8B II+ from Hasegawa. It is without a doubt > the worst engineered modern kit I have encountered. <snip> nd I'll never get another Hasegawa kit without reading a detailed > review. As mentioned... "It depends on the kit." Go to the other extreme and try one of Hasegawa's ME-109s. Careful opening the box, or it might assemble itself. |
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