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Wrong Gunmetal paint?

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Artist - 10 Apr 2004 03:10 GMT
I needed gunmetal paint to paint the engine in a car.
In the photo on the box, the engine is a shiny silver-grey, which is
what I thought gunmetal was. I bought Testors model master gunmetal
#1795. It turned out a very dark greenish color. That's wrong, isn't
it? Then I looked it up on a web page, and I find out it's a Testors
Model Master FS Enamel Paint. What does the FS mean? I was going to
get the Metalizer version. I didn't know there was more than one
friggin gunmetal. Is the Metalizer version the right one? It's #1405.
I guess the only way I could've been sure was to take the paint code
number with me. That sucks.
Bill Banaszak - 10 Apr 2004 04:22 GMT
> I needed gunmetal paint to paint the engine in a car.
> In the photo on the box, the engine is a shiny silver-grey, which is
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> I guess the only way I could've been sure was to take the paint code
> number with me. That sucks.

FS means the Federal Standard number.  I think what you really need is
probably 'Steel'(#1180) or 'Flat Aluminum'(#1181).  Once upon a time I
would have advised Pactra 'Steel' but that's no longer available.
Thanks, Testors. :(

Bill Banaszak, MFE
Don Stauffer - 10 Apr 2004 15:30 GMT
The term 'gunmetal' as a color description is very vaque. It is not the
same as gun blued metal, but certainly can be ambiguous beyond the fact
that it should probably be grey.  Is gunmetal shiny or matt?  Depends a
lot on final surface treatments and history since fabrication.

Even steel is not a very useful term.  The term steel would  seem to say
it is different than cast iron, for example.  But again, the color of
unfinished steel depends a lot on alloy, and how it was fabricated, let
alone whether there were any surface treatments for corrosion
protection, etc.

I personally believe steels and gunmetals are a little too light, and
frequently mix in a bit of flat black.

> I needed gunmetal paint to paint the engine in a car.
> In the photo on the box, the engine is a shiny silver-grey, which is
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Kurt Laughlin - 10 Apr 2004 16:32 GMT
> The term 'gunmetal' as a color description is very vaque. It is not the
> same as gun blued metal, but certainly can be ambiguous beyond the fact
> that it should probably be grey.  Is gunmetal shiny or matt?  Depends a
> lot on final surface treatments and history since fabrication.

Real gunmetal is an ancient alloy, some sort of bronze I believe.

KL
Ron - 11 Apr 2004 03:53 GMT
> > The term 'gunmetal' as a color description is very vaque. It is not the
> > same as gun blued metal, but certainly can be ambiguous beyond the fact
> > that it should probably be grey.  Is gunmetal shiny or matt?  Depends a
> > lot on final surface treatments and history since fabrication.
>
> Real gunmetal is an ancient alloy, some sort of bronze I believe.

Correct Kurt, the alloy known as gunmetal is in fact a type of bronze
and was used to cast, you guessed it...guns (usually canon but sometimes
early handgonnes). Commonly model paints called gunmetal are supposed to
represent rust blued steel (as opposed to chemical salt bluing, nitre
bluing or Parkerizing).
Ron - 11 Apr 2004 03:49 GMT
Whereas    I find most steel paints to be too dark and/or grainy for my
taste. The last steel solvent based paint I liked was Pactra flat steel.
Now I've discovered Vallejo natural steel and oily steel and like them.

> Even steel is not a very useful term.  The term steel would  seem to say
> it is different than cast iron, for example.  But again, the color of
> unfinished steel depends a lot on alloy, and how it was fabricated, let
> alone whether there were any surface treatments for corrosion
> protection, etc.
Max Bryant - 10 Apr 2004 15:41 GMT
Most gunmetal paint I ever used was like the color of pencil graphite with a
metallic sheen.
Cheers,
Max Bryant

> I needed gunmetal paint to paint the engine in a car.
> In the photo on the box, the engine is a shiny silver-grey, which is
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Don Stauffer - 11 Apr 2004 17:03 GMT
Yes!  I remember a paint like that but forget the brand and what they
called the color.  I still have one of those replica 1:1 scale pistols
painted with it. I believe it was an old Testors color but I'm not sure
now- that was about twenty years ago.

> Most gunmetal paint I ever used was like the color of pencil graphite with a
> metallic sheen.
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