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Scott Lowther - 18 Apr 2004 04:16 GMT
I'm restarting the old resin model kit business I used to run years ago,
Part Time Models. There are a vast assortment of spacecraft models I'm
interested in modeling, but I want to do some things that'll sell (last
time I just made models of whatever I felt like...). To that end, I've
got a little market survey going:
http://www.up-ship.com/ptm/market.htm

What I'm basically looking for is feedback on which of these ~200 models
you *would* actually buy if they were made available. I need as much
response as I can get in order to do this right, so please take a moment
and check it out. There is an Excel spreadshet and a text listing; the
spreadsheet option is easiest for me, but all honest feedback is useful.

Thanks.
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Jerry Irvine - 18 Apr 2004 04:44 GMT
> I'm restarting the old resin model kit business I used to run years ago,
> Part Time Models. There are a vast assortment of spacecraft models I'm
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>
> Thanks.

Thunderbirds but with a 1.23" + through hole for rocket motors (or
display stands).

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Scott Lowther - 18 Apr 2004 05:35 GMT
> Thunderbirds but with a 1.23" + through hole for rocket motors (or
> display stands).

Thunderbirds? You mean "Thunderbirds are go" crappy Brit puppet show
Thunderbirds? Nah. I'd probably get my butt sued off.

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e - 18 Apr 2004 05:52 GMT
>> Thunderbirds but with a 1.23" + through hole for rocket motors (or
>> display stands).
>
>Thunderbirds? You mean "Thunderbirds are go" crappy Brit puppet show
>Thunderbirds? Nah. I'd probably get my butt sued off.

crappy? nonesense. his team built some nice models. and had
some great inventions like his special effects rocket
motors. high 60's art.
Jerry Irvine - 18 Apr 2004 05:59 GMT
> > Thunderbirds but with a 1.23" + through hole for rocket motors (or
> > display stands).
>
> Thunderbirds? You mean "Thunderbirds are go" crappy Brit puppet show
> Thunderbirds? Nah. I'd probably get my butt sued off.

You asked for suggestions!

Sorry!

Jerry

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Max Bryant - 18 Apr 2004 07:14 GMT
Thunderbirds crappy?
Man and here I was thinking that Derek Meddings and crew were model making
geniuses.

Max Bryant

> > Thunderbirds but with a 1.23" + through hole for rocket motors (or
> > display stands).
>
> Thunderbirds? You mean "Thunderbirds are go" crappy Brit puppet show
> Thunderbirds? Nah. I'd probably get my butt sued off.
Scott Lowther - 18 Apr 2004 08:29 GMT
> Thunderbirds crappy?
> Man and here I was thinking that Derek Meddings and crew were model making
> geniuses.

AHEM: What I actually said was:

> > Thunderbirds? You mean "Thunderbirds are go" crappy Brit puppet show
> > Thunderbirds?

Note what is being called "crappy" here. It was the *show* not the
*models.*

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famvburg@webtv.net - 18 Apr 2004 11:03 GMT
Actually, the 'show' is only crappy if you want it to be. I rather enjoy
it. As for your survey, if I knew what a lot of your proposed kits
looked like, I'm sure I'd be interested in more of them, as it is, I
would be interested in most everything 1/72.
Bill Banaszak - 19 Apr 2004 04:19 GMT
I'm with famvburg here.  I have no idea what most of those are on your
list.  I could suggest Fireball XL-5 but that's probably not what you're
looking for.

Bill Banaszak, MFE
e - 19 Apr 2004 04:25 GMT
>I'm with famvburg here.  I have no idea what most of those are on your
>list.  I could suggest Fireball XL-5 but that's probably not what you're
>looking for.
>
>Bill Banaszak, MFE

the nuclear bomb powered rocket would be cool.
Al Superczynski - 19 Apr 2004 04:46 GMT
>I could suggest Fireball XL-5 but that's probably not what you're
>looking for.

    He's not looking for suggestions.  He's asking us to indicate our
choices from his already-established list of possible model projects.

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Scott Lowther - 19 Apr 2004 05:45 GMT
> >I could suggest Fireball XL-5 but that's probably not what you're
> >looking for.
>
>      He's not looking for suggestions.

While I'll certainly take suggestions (and have recieved a fair number),
I kinda need to stick with the list as already defined. Otherwise, I'd
need to go back to those who have already sauid what they wanted,a nd
present them with the new options... gah.

Now, if there was some discussion hereabouts to indicate that a model of
XYZ would be overwhelmingly popular...

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Jerry Irvine - 18 Apr 2004 14:51 GMT
> > Thunderbirds crappy?
> > Man and here I was thinking that Derek Meddings and crew were model making
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> Note what is being called "crappy" here. It was the *show* not the
> *models.*

We got it.

I thought as a business person you might actually CONSIDER the
suggestion of a prospective customer.

Oh well, I know how to do cast molding, maybe I will contact the rights
owners for permissions myself.

Jerry

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Dave Grayvis - 18 Apr 2004 15:19 GMT
>>>Thunderbirds crappy?
>>>Man and here I was thinking that Derek Meddings and crew were model making
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>
> Jerry

POP GOES THE WEASEL!!!
Scott Lowther - 18 Apr 2004 16:05 GMT
> I thought as a business person you might actually CONSIDER the
> suggestion of a prospective customer.

Oh, I'm not rejecting it, it's just that Tbiords are a just a little
outside the range of the models I'm largely looking at.

Besides... your initial post simply said "Thinderbirds," without further
explanation. Could have been from the TV show; could have neen the
Thunderbird sounding rocket, could have been the Tbird USAF display
squad, could have been something else entirely.

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e - 18 Apr 2004 18:11 GMT
>> Thunderbirds crappy?
>> Man and here I was thinking that Derek Meddings and crew were model making
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>Note what is being called "crappy" here. It was the *show* not the
>*models.*

watch it buster, yer stomping on teenage memories!
(g)
besides, he should get a medal for the james bond parodies.
The Rocket Scientist - 19 Apr 2004 22:42 GMT
> > Thunderbirds but with a 1.23" + through hole for rocket motors (or
> > display stands).
>
> Thunderbirds? You mean "Thunderbirds are go" crappy Brit puppet show
> Thunderbirds? Nah. I'd probably get my butt sued off.

http://www.thunderbirdsmovie.uk.com/

Crappy?  I think not!

F.A.B.
Bill Sullivan

"Meddle not in the affairs of dragons,
for thou art tasty and good with cocktail sauce!"
Dwayne Surdu-Miller - 20 Apr 2004 19:34 GMT
Wow!  Cool!  Quite a movie trailer!

It sounds as if most of the old characters will be killed off,
unfortunately.

Dwayne
Mike Jerauld - 18 Apr 2004 09:22 GMT
YES!!

Now I have to dive into the storage unit and find my back issues
of Aerospace Projects Review to cross-reference the images to all
those designations!

APR is my all-time favorite publication!  Put me on the list
if you ever do a compilation.

Mike Jerauld

> I'm restarting the old resin model kit business I used to run years ago,
> Part Time Models. There are a vast assortment of spacecraft models I'm
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Dominique Durocher - 19 Apr 2004 05:03 GMT
> What I'm basically looking for is feedback on which of these ~200 models
> you *would* actually buy if they were made available. I need as much
> response as I can get in order to do this right, so please take a moment
> and check it out. There is an Excel spreadshet and a text listing; the
> spreadsheet option is easiest for me, but all honest feedback is useful.

Here are my suggestions:

1/400 - I'll have to find more info on the subjexts to say, but it is an
odd scale.
1/200 - R-7/Vostok/Soyuz, Energiya-Buran &CZ-2F would be nice to complete
the Man in Space set.
        Shuttle-C, MOL, X-20, Titans & Deltas after that.
1/144 - Unless yours will be far superior, avoid repeating subjects from
RealSpace Models & NewWare at first.
       That would leave CZ-2F, X-33, X-34, Ariane V, DC-X. Actually, as
there is no available Hubble, that could be a good start (include shuttle
bay mounts if possible, old & new solar panel).
1/72 - Same as above for repetition. Shenzou is coming soon from Dragon,
so not a good bet (maybe a detail/correction set after release). X-20,
Pegasus (with or without X-43), DC-X, MOL would be better. LOK/LK also if
RealSpace doesn't re-release the Rho Models ones.

Dom
Scott Lowther - 19 Apr 2004 05:47 GMT
> 1/400 - I'll have to find more info on the subjexts to say, but it is an
> odd scale.

It is. However, there's already a very nice 1/400 Saturn V on the
market, and the rockets lsited at 1/400 are all pretty damn big. 75 feet
in diameter and nearly 600 feet long = big.

> 1/144 - Unless yours will be far superior, avoid repeating subjects from
> RealSpace Models & NewWare at first.

Agreed.

The market for these models is too small to go head-to-head with
competitors on most of these.

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