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Model Forum / General / Models / April 2004Pricing Nostalgia
While cleaning out the attic, I came across an old order from Modeltoys, Portsmouth, UK. The conversion rate in those days was 2.63 dollars to the pound sterling. Dated November, 1973, my order was for the following 1.72nd scale kits: BAC Strikemaster $0.61 Alpha Jet 0.61 Huey Cobra 0.61 F-5A 0.61 Gnat Trainer 0.61 Sea Venom 0.63 F-104G 1.03 BAC Lightening 1.42 P2V7 Neptune 3.95 For a grand total of 3.82 Pounds, or $ 15.08. Postage was 1 Pound 90, or $5.00 US. Those were the days. Don H. Very nice...do you still have any of them? I found some very early squadron mags and 1971-72 Scale Models in an antique store...kinda sad looking at those prices now! > Very nice...do you still have any of them? > I found some very early squadron mags and 1971-72 Scale Models in an antique > store...kinda sad looking at those prices now! I get really sad looking at the prices on the merchandise now on the shelves. :{ Part of the problem is that I was buying stuff back when those old prices were current. It tends to make me hold on to my money and takes a lot of the fun out of shopping. Bill Banaszak, MFE >> Very nice...do you still have any of them? >> I found some very early squadron mags and 1971-72 Scale >> Models in an antique store...kinda sad looking at those prices >> now! > I get really sad looking at the prices on the merchandise now on the > shelves. :{ > Part of the problem is that I was buying stuff back when those old > prices were current. It tends to make me hold on to my money and > takes a lot of the fun out of shopping. Yeabbut, back in those days, I was earning about 8K per year, and after rent, car and food, I didn't have too much discreationary ca$h left over. By the time I retired, I was making a lot more, and thanks to a couple of pretty good investments, managed to retire with a nice pension. Seeing a model (any model) for over seventy bucks will take the wind out of my sails, but it's the same feeling that I had back then and saw a kit that I would have liked to have that cost $20.00. Maybe that's way I still have twenty-year-old Patra paints in the workshop that I'm wringing dry. -- John The history of things that didn't happen has never been written. . - - - Henry Kissinger >Maybe that's way I still have twenty-year-old Patra paints in the workshop >that >I'm wringing dry. > > -- John Yeah, still got a few Pactra and Testors paints with usable juice in them. I've always figured if there was a remote chance of building a kit and I had the money, buy it now. It will only be more expensive later. The way things look now adays I usually wait on things like low pressure injection and vacforms since they'll be supplanted in 10 months by a better kit. Freewheelin' Franklin almost said: Models will get you through times of no money better than money will get you through times of no models. Cheers, The Keeper (of too much crap) >Yeah, still got a few Pactra and Testors paints with usable juice in them>> I have a few that are factory printed at 19 cents on the lid, store marked down to 16 cents. Testors MM paints, at $2.35 are hmmm (little quick math in my head), 1237% higher now. Unfortunately, my paycheck hasn't gone up proportionately. When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return. --Leonardo Da Vinci Disco -- FlyNavy wrote: > >Yeah, still got a few Pactra and Testors paints with usable juice in them>> > > I have a few that are factory printed at 19 cents on the lid, store marked down > to 16 cents. Testors MM paints, at $2.35 are hmmm (little quick math in my > head), 1237% higher now. Unfortunately, my paycheck hasn't gone up > proportionately. I love it when some talking head for the Government holds a press conference and tells us that inflation is very low. What they carefully don't point out is that the current Government index doesn't take three major items into their calculations; Food, fuel and shelter. Whatta scam, and it's both parties taking part in it! Bill Shuey Bill wrote: > I love it when some talking head for the Government holds a press >conference and tells us that inflation is very low. What they carefully >don't point out is that the current Government index doesn't take three >major items into their calculations; Food, fuel and shelter. Whatta >scam, and it's both parties taking part in it! Come on Bill! You're old enough to know that you can't believe government sources or politicians about anything. Rick MFE >>> I found some very early squadron mags and 1971-72 Scale >>> Models in an antique store.. I have quite a fue of them in my loft allong with Air Enthusiast from the early 60's ,even some of the first quarterlies plus most of air pictorial ( I think) from the 60's and 70's. I tried to gove them away a fue years back but nobody seamed to want them. Maybe that's way I still have twenty-year-old Patra paints in the workshop > that > I'm wringing dry. I have some Modelcolor Air Flash paints that still sound liquid when I shake them and some Red-Label the same. Anybody got a rough idea of age for these 2 types of relics? Rory, I hope you mis-typed when you put Air Enthusiast back to the '60s. I have Vol.1 No.1 and it's dated June 1971. When that title showed here I dropped Scale Modeler like a rock. Bill Banaszak, MFE > Rory, I hope you mis-typed when you put Air Enthusiast back to the > '60s. I have Vol.1 No.1 and it's dated June 1971. When that title > showed here I dropped Scale Modeler like a rock. > > Bill Banaszak, MFE I will go up and look .I think it changed name at some time but i will go up and look. >Yeabbut, back in those days, I was earning about 8K per year, and after rent, >car and food, I didn't have too much discreationary ca$h left over. By the time [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > - Henry Kissinger i'm still squeezing pactra out of 70's plastic bottles. > >> Very nice...do you still have any of them? > >> I found some very early squadron mags and 1971-72 Scale [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > that > I'm wringing dry. An interesting take, with which I agree. I couldn't afford $5 kits when I was a kid, and $70 will still make me flinch, but these days I've got fifty times the disposable income, so a kit that costs ten times as much is actually more affordable. It's also about what the hobby really costs. Let's say I spent $6.98 for an Airfix Meteor III, then purchase aftermarket landing gear and canopy and doll up the cockpit with some photo-etch for a two-seat Meteor (cost = about another $10.00) I use some decals (cost unknown, as it comes from partial sheets already used for other projects) and three or four colors of paint. Some CA and microballoons to fill the seams, and some sanding sticks to smooth out everything. Dremel time, some Future, and a matte clear coating. Net expenditure is about $20.00, for about 15 hours of hobby time. Compare with: Golf: Even assuming you have already amortized the clubs, walk the course instead of carting, and only use three balls in eighteen holes, even a public course is going to cost you a lot more on a per-hour basis. Skiing: Anyone bought a two-day lift ticket for $20.00 recently? I thought not. Recreational drinking: At a cheap neighborhood bar, your $20.00 ought to get you at least mildy intoxicated for 2-3 hours, and after you sleep it off and enjoy the ensuing hangover, you might be close to a 15-hour total experience. Torturous though an Airfix Meteor might be, I think it preferable. Recreational reading: Two good paperbacks at $8.00 each, and a recreational beverage or two, will cost about the same, and might give you a few more hours of leisure time enjoyment, but sip sip slowly! Of course, the dynamics are a little different as the cost of the kit goes up, but despite what your closet tells you, the hobby is pretty cheap in terms of what actually gets built. The trick is not to buy kits you'll never build ;-) Mark Schynert > The trick is not to buy kits you'll never build ;-) Mark: You really don't want to open that bucket of worms, do you??? :-) Bill Shuey >> The trick is not to buy kits you'll never build ;-) >Mark: > > You really don't want to open that bucket of worms, do you??? :-) > > Bill Shuey >Mark: > > You really don't want to open that bucket of worms, do you??? :-) > > Bill Shuey Too late! And I think it's a 55 gallon drum of worms... I'll be able to build every kit I bought assuming I live into the next century 8^) It's just too easy to buy more. Cheers The Keeper (of too much crap) >Golf: Even assuming you have already amortized the clubs, walk the >course instead of carting, and only use three balls in eighteen holes, >even a public course is going to cost you a lot more on a per-hour basis. _ _| |_ |_ _| | | |_| "Begone Hellspawn!" Golf <shudder> >Skiing: Anyone bought a two-day lift ticket for $20.00 recently? I >thought not. Used to Cross-country ski before I developed arthritis in my feet and knees. When I started, it was $2 per day, plus $10 for ski rental. The next year (when the owners saw how many people wanted to ski, the price tripled. I bought my own package and started skiing at municiple parks in the country. The ski center went out of business after about five years. The price of greed. >Recreational drinking: At a cheap neighborhood bar, your $20.00 ought to >get you at least mildy intoxicated for 2-3 hours, and after you sleep it >off and enjoy the ensuing hangover, you might be close to a 15-hour >total experience. Torturous though an Airfix Meteor might be, I think it >preferable. I quit serious drinking after I started having kids. Something about being a role model. Quit smoking about the same time. >Recreational reading: Two good paperbacks at $8.00 each, and a >recreational beverage or two, will cost about the same, and might give >you a few more hours of leisure time enjoyment, but sip sip slowly! I try to buy my books at used book sales or used book stores. Rather pay $.25 for a reasonably new paperback than $8.00. But then I remember the "bad old days". -- John The history of things that didn't happen has never been written. . - - - Henry Kissinger > Of course, the dynamics are a little different as the cost of the kit > goes up, but despite what your closet tells you, the hobby is pretty > cheap in terms of what actually gets built. The trick is not to buy kits > you'll never build ;-) > > Mark Schynert Me? I , uh, er, plan(ned) to build every kit I buy (bought)! Yeah, that's the ticket! -- Chuck Ryan CSRZ28@REMOVEearthlink.net Springfield OH I never drank, smoked or skiied and I did a lot of my recreational reading courtesy of my library card. Yeah, I'm cheap. ;) Bill Banaszak, MFE Bill wrote: >I never drank, smoked or skiied and I did a lot of my recreational >reading courtesy of my library card. Yeah, I'm cheap. ;) Bill, the term is "fiscally conservative". Cheap is when you borrow someone else's library card. Rick MFE >Bill wrote: >> >>I never drank, smoked or skiied and I did a lot of my recreational >>reading courtesy of my library card. Yeah, I'm cheap. ;) I thought maybe you had Scottish blood like me :) >I thought maybe you had Scottish blood like me :) I was over at my Scottish friend's house using the bathroom and I had to ask him: Where do you get that 1/4 ply toilet paper? Do you have to special order it? 8^) Cheers, The Keeper (of too much crap) > >I thought maybe you had Scottish blood like me :) > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > The Keeper (of too much crap) It's specifically designed to allow fingers to poke through and do the major part of the job. ;Þ Bill Banaszak, MFE Re toilet paper commentary: Quoted from somewhere.... Life is like a roll of toilet paper, the closer to the end, the faster it goes.. Rick >>I never drank, smoked or skiied and I did a lot of my recreational >>reading courtesy of my library card. Yeah, I'm cheap. ;) >Bill, the term is "fiscally conservative". Cheap is when you borrow someone >else's library card. Cheap is borrowing somebody else's library card and then asking for a ride to the library. -- John The history of things that didn't happen has never been written. . - - - Henry Kissinger The Old Timer wrote as a follow up to: >>>I never drank, smoked or skiied and I did a lot of my recreational >>>reading courtesy of my library card. Yeah, I'm cheap. ;) [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >Cheap is borrowing somebody else's library card and then asking for a ride to >the library. Brazenly cheap is doing the above and then not paying the fines for the overdue book(s). No wait, that is chicken feces, not anything to do with cheap...... > The Old Timer wrote as a follow up to: > >>>I never drank, smoked or skiied and I did a lot of my recreational [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Brazenly cheap is doing the above and then not paying the fines for the overdue > book(s). No wait, that is chicken feces, not anything to do with cheap...... Golly, I guess I'll have to re-habilitate my self-image then. I have been tight with a buck in the past. Ask the ex-. When she was the financial manager she was only tight with MY bucks. It's amazing how fast the money adds up when you start squirreling the quarters away. :Þ Bill Banaszak, MFE Or Amish.....;) > I never drank, smoked or skiied and I did a lot of my recreational > reading courtesy of my library card. Yeah, I'm cheap. ;) > > Bill Banaszak, MFE > Or Amish.....;) > > > I never drank, smoked or skiied and I did a lot of my recreational > > reading courtesy of my library card. Yeah, I'm cheap. ;) Close, there's Mennonite in the blood from the maternal side. :) Bill Banaszak, MFE >> Or Amish.....;) >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Bill Banaszak, MFE so you don't drive a buggy with turn signals? >so you don't drive a buggy with turn signals? No, you drive a buggy with a horse. Sorry. Tom >>so you don't drive a buggy with turn signals? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > >Tom no, i am buggy on my steel horse. ask rufus. LOL - very punny, Tom! But you CAN drive a horse buggy with turn signals... RobG > >so you don't drive a buggy with turn signals? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Tom > LOL - very punny, Tom! But you CAN drive a horse buggy with turn signals... Yes, but you must have a well-trained horse. Most folks use reins. ;) Bill Banaszak, MFE > >so you don't drive a buggy with turn signals? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Tom Leading to that old joke: "Here comes a horse with a buggy behind!" Bill Banaszak, MFE I saw, in an ancient FSM, a Squadron ad featuring the Nitto SF3D kits and offering them ( the powered armor suits) for $4.99. That was BEFORE the rerelease when the kits were rare and pricey. Even in rerelease from HLJ they're US$20+ now.. Mike please remove "diespam" to reply If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you've misunderstood the situation. |
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