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Model Forum / General / Models / May 2004alt.sf.scale-models
Does anyone actually post to the alt.sf.scale-models NG??? Digital_Cowboy >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >=sRK4 >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- i wish you would lose that pgp sh.t here, it's really annoying. sadly, that group is a spam trap. last legit post on google was waaaaaaay back. > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > sadly, that group is a spam trap. last legit post on google > was waaaaaaay back. Sorry if ya don't like "e," but I happen to be one of the people who actually takes security seriously. Also I have seen ASCII signatures that took up WAY more space then the nine lines that my PGP digital signature does. Its sad to hear that the alt.sf.scale-models is nothing but a SPAM trap, it's name sound like it would have been a good resource for builders of Sci-Fi models. Digital_Cowboy nothing wrong with security, but this ain't one of those groups. "e," That may be so, but I prefer to err on the side of caution. And considering that I have PGP configured to automatically sign everything by default it's more trouble then it's worth to "turn it off" the short time that I am in this or most other newsgroups. Besides which IF this "ain't one of those groups" then how come a LOT of posters take precautions to keep their E-Mail addresses from "falling" into the hands of SPAMMERs??? Who love to troll the NGs to harvest address both to send to and to use to forge their sources??? I currently have at least three pieces of SPAM that "appear" to have come from my E-Mail address, but in fact didn't. Easy to establish because of the fact that I *DO* sign EVERYTHING. . . Digital_Cowboy > nothing wrong with security, but this ain't one of those > groups. gee, i've been in usenet since 95 with nothing more than a munged email. i guess pgp is just too CoOl AnD lEet for me. "e," No, it's just that as I've already stated. Being as I have PGP set to automatically sign all of my outgoing mail. Why should I have to go in and reconfigure it for the short time that I am reading/replying to newsgroup postings??? Digital_Cowboy > gee, i've been in usenet since 95 with nothing more than a > munged email. > i guess pgp is just too CoOl AnD lEet for me. >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] >=eN75 >-----END PGP SIGNATURE----- my point is it isn't neccessary...but whatever makes you happy. it will make me skip over rather than pick my way through. > my point is it isn't neccessary...but whatever makes you > happy. > it will make me skip over rather than pick my way through. Again, whether or not it is necessary, and considering that you sir appear to be the only person who has a problem with my using PGP to sign my postings. Why should I have to go in and manually change my default settings, just to please apparently one person??? If it bothers you so much then please do feel free to either skip my postings or to put a filter in place to delete my postings, so that you don't have to "pick" your way through my postings. Also considering that usually at the same time that I am reading and replying to newsgroup postings I am also reading and composing E-Mail. So it is easier (for me) just to have PGP configured to sign everything by default. Digital_Cowboy > my point is it isn't neccessary...but whatever makes you happy. it will make me skip over rather than pick my way through.>> >Again, whether or not it is necessary, and considering that you sir appear to be the only person who has a problem with my using PGP to sign my postings. Why should I have to go in and manually change my default settings, just to please apparently one person???>> Ok guys, you've pissed in each other's Wheaties, both of ya cool yer jets! Cowboy, if you want to use a PGP, GPS or PG&E security thing, knock yourself out. I and others simply add nonsensical stuff to our return addresses to kill spam, but do whatever gives you peace of mind, ok? Anyone who really wants to email you can (I have)--it doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out your email address. Tooftoof, what can I say? You're fighting a battle you can't possibly win--it's time to fly the white flag, do a strategic reversal, whatever. Can we get back to politics now? Oh damn, I mean modeling, sorry, my bad--sometimes I forget what this NG is for. When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return. --Leonardo Da Vinci > Ok guys, you've pissed in each other's Wheaties, both of ya cool yer jets! > Cowboy, if you want to use a PGP, GPS or PG&E security thing, knock yourself [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > whatever. Can we get back to politics now? Oh damn, I mean modeling, sorry, > my bad--sometimes I forget what this NG is for. "Disco," Thank you. Yep, all they have to do (or at least one way) would be to install PGP on their computer and verify my signature, and they should be able to gleam my address (one of them) from there. Digital_Cowboy I have not gone to that NG in years but when I used to check it, it was usually not a very active place. Except for the spammers. Cheers, Max Bryant > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > =sRK4 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >I have not gone to that NG in years but when I used to check it, it was >usually not a very active place. Except for the spammers. >Cheers, I go there a couple of times a week to clear out junk and see if there's anything worth checking out. There are a few notes and questions, but sadly not very much. -- John The history of things that didn't happen has never been written. . - - - Henry Kissinger BTW have you tried checking out the forums at Starshipmodeler.com or CultTVman.com? These are the places to go for active Sci-Fi model talk. Cheers, Max Bryant > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > =sRK4 > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > Does anyone actually post to the alt.sf.scale-models NG??? The last posts I saw were back in April, when the Polar Lights NX-01s started showing up- and that thread died a quick and lonely death. The group started with good intentions- (in the wake of a failed re-org/split of r.m.s. seven years ago) but it's failure is most likely due to the propagation problem that all alt groups have. I'll echo what Max said: The webboards at Starship Modeler and the Hobbytalk boards that CultTVMan and Polar Lights sponsor are your best bets for online sciffy model discussion. Both have good communities with strong signal-to-noise ratios. (unlike r.m.s.) Sat Sat, Thanks for the input. I've read a couple of the articles at CutTVMan, haven't been to hobbytalk yet. Gee ya mean that therer isn't political debates??? What do they do for fun??? ;-) Digital_Cowboy > > Does anyone actually post to the alt.sf.scale-models NG??? > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Sat > Gee ya mean that therer isn't political debates??? What do they do for > fun??? ;-) > > Digital_Cowboy > "Saturn S. Padua" <calculon@yahoo.com> wrote in There is a Thunderdome section of the Starshipmodeler forums for off topic rants. Alot of steam gets released there. Cheers, Max Bryant > Gee ya mean that there isn't political debates??? What do they > do for fun??? ;-) Ummm, build models? -- John The history of things that didn't happen has never been written. . - - - Henry Kissinger I was being sarcastic. Digital_Cowboy > > Gee ya mean that there isn't political debates??? What do they > > do for fun??? ;-) [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > . - - > - Henry Kissinger > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > > > -- John We knew that. ;) Sadly, I think the raging political chest-beating drives people away who came here for some respite from all that. When I first found this group back around '97 there were many more posters than there are now. I have file folders full of hard copy stuff that appeared here that was too good and would come in handy later. I hope I remember where to look when later gets here. :) Bill Banaszak, MFE > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Bill Banaszak, MFE Sounds like your filing system is as bad as mine! Bill Shuey >Sounds like your filing system is as bad as mine! Bill Shuey>> Huh? You mean there's actually a system to filing?! I figured as long as it was in the modeling room somewhere that meant it was filed....oops When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return. --Leonardo Da Vinci Bill Shuey said: > Sounds like your filing system is as bad as mine! Well, the hard copy system works really well. It's the electro-chemical system that has gaps. I've built things and a year later find information in the files that would have been of use during the build. I just forgot to look for it. :] Bill Banaszak, MFE > > Sounds like your filing system is as bad as mine! > Bill Banaszak, MFE My filing system for any magazine articles, books, or the thousands of kits in the collection are in my head. Things were okay and I knew where everything was. lately my 43 y.o. brain is having troubles at times extracting data. For instance I bought a detail set that I swear was on the racking in the basement and has been for years. I went to get it the other day and I'll be damned if I can find it. Since I am going blind too it probably is staring me in the face! Cheers, Max Bryant >I think the raging political chest-beating drives people away who >came here for some respite from all that. I don't think that's the case at all since it's so easy to either killfile or ignore off-topic threads. I think it's subject-specific websites like Hyperscale and Track-Link and the many discussion groups on Yahoo! that lure readers away from RMS.  SignatureAl Superczynski, MFE, IPMS/USA #3795, continuous since 1968 My "From" address is munged - click "Reply To" to respond via email. Check out my want lists and eBay listings at "Al's Place": http://www.network54.com/realm/modeleral/ "Build what YOU like, the way YOU want to, and the critics will flame you every time." > >I think the raging political chest-beating drives people away who > >came here for some respite from all that. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > -- > Al Superczynski, MFE, IPMS/USA #3795, continuous since 1968 You might be right, Al. I've never been to any of those to know. Question: Are the forums moderated? That would cut down on the distractions but it would strike me as 'flavourless'. Bill Banaszak, MFE > > >I think the raging political chest-beating drives people away who > > >came here for some respite from all that. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Bill Banaszak, MFE The two times I've been on Hyperscale, I've noticed following a thread is much more tedious, and that a lot of the traffic, whilst on-topic, was pretty vapid. There's probably a lot of good stuff there, but I found it much too hard to overview all topics on the site, and a lot of the topic heads weren't terribly on-topic anyway. My take is that people tend to stay with groups where they like what they are reading, on- or off-topic. I prefer unmoderated groups, if only because I do more with my life than compare RLM color chips all day. Whatever you care to say about rms in the negative sense, it also seem to me that if you have a specific modeling-related question and state it in reasonably readable English, you will probably get one or more useful answers. You do take your chance if you just browse. Mark Schynert >I've never been to any of those to know. >Question: Are the forums moderated? That would cut down on the >distractions but it would strike me as 'flavourless'. I don't remember if Track-Link is actively moderated but Brett Green keeps a close eye on the discussions at Hyperscale. As for the Yahoo! groups it depends on the group owner. I moderate all new members on the groups I own but that's mostly to keep spammers out of them. Beyond that I watch the discussions closely to keep them pretty much on-topic and flame-free. SignatureAl Superczynski, MFE, IPMS/USA #3795, continuous since 1968 My "From" address is munged - click "Reply To" to respond via email. Check out my want lists and eBay listings at "Al's Place": http://www.network54.com/realm/modeleral/ "Build what YOU like, the way YOU want to, and the critics will flame you every time." spoilsport. :) RobG >I watch the discussions closely to keep them pretty > much on-topic and flame-free. > We knew that. ;) > Sadly, I think the raging political chest-beating drives people away who [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Bill Banaszak, MFE Bill, I've been doing the same thing. Anything that I see that looks like it might come in handy goes into a folder under my local files. Guess I'm going to have to take a day and save them all out as text files, so I don't lose them. Digital_Cowboy > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > Digital_Cowboy I would. You'd be surprised (or, maybe not) at how fast things can disappear on these machines. I have piles of things saved in Netscape 3.0 that are untouchable by this 4.7. My son likes to 'upgrade' things for me which tends to make my hair turn white much faster. ;) Bill Banaszak, MFE >There is a Thunderdome section of the Starshipmodeler forums for off topic >rants. Alot of steam gets released there. The OT rants in SM's Thunderdome are much more civil than the monkey-feces-flinging parties that happen in r.m.s. on a routine basis. And unlike here, there's never a dearth of on-topic posts. I'm sorry, but it's becoming increasingly difficult for me to find good things to say about r.m.s. This newsgroup has seen much better days. Sat |
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