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[Q] V-1 bomb in luft46 designs?

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Sir Loin of Beef - 18 Jul 2004 09:31 GMT
Just got hold of Tamiya's beautiful 1/72 Fiseler V-1 bomb, and I'm
thinking of doing something different from the bomb on trolley look.

Were there any Luft 46 designs that used the V-1 bomb?
Keeper - 18 Jul 2004 14:57 GMT
>Were there any Luft 46 designs that used the V-1 bomb?

IIRC the model is a standard V-1, yes? About the only other way to go is the
Fiesler piloted version; the pilot was ostensibly to bail out during the final
target run. I can't see how; you'd get sucked into the engine!
hth

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Stephen "FPilot" Bierce - 18 Jul 2004 19:59 GMT
>>Were there any Luft 46 designs that used the V-1 bomb?
>
>IIRC the model is a standard V-1, yes? About the only other way to go is the
>Fiesler piloted version; the pilot was ostensibly to bail out during the final
>target run. I can't see how; you'd get sucked into the engine!
>hth

Downward-firing ejector seat?  Or just an underside escape hatch?

The "Bulletstopper" volume of the "Luftwaffe 1946" comic book shows
Daimler-Benz/Focke-Wulf Projekt C superbombers carrying two or more advanced V1
missiles each.

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Mark Schynert - 20 Jul 2004 05:58 GMT
> >>Were there any Luft 46 designs that used the V-1 bomb?
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> Downward-firing ejector seat?  Or just an underside escape hatch?

Neither. Swing the canopy sideways (as with the Bf 109) and clamber
out). Estimated chance of succesful evacuation 1% during terminal dive
on target.

Mark Schynert
Claus Gustafsen - 20 Jul 2004 18:06 GMT
It was done, Hanna Reich test flew some without the warhead.

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> > >>Were there any Luft 46 designs that used the V-1 bomb?
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> Mark Schynert
Keeper - 21 Jul 2004 05:16 GMT
>It was done, Hanna Reich test flew some without the warhead.

I remember seeing a circa seventies movie about this; the test pilots kept
crashing until the woman flew it. Fiction based on actual events...
Cheers,

The Keeper (of too much crap)
Edwin Ross Quantrall - 22 Jul 2004 05:02 GMT
>>It was done, Hanna Reich test flew some without the warhead.
>
> I remember seeing a circa seventies movie about this; the test pilots kept
> crashing until the woman flew it. Fiction based on actual events...

"Operation Crossbow", starring George Peppard and Sophia Loren.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059549/

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Keeper - 23 Jul 2004 06:55 GMT
>"Operation Crossbow", starring George Peppard and Sophia Loren.
>
>http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059549/

Yeah, that was it! Thank you.

The Keeper (of too much crap)
Mark Schynert - 21 Jul 2004 06:02 GMT
> It was done, Hanna Reich test flew some without the warhead.

But she didn't bail out--she belly-landed the thing, IIRC. Even if she
did jump, that''s not in a terminal dive.

Mark Schynert
Wulf Corbett - 18 Jul 2004 15:12 GMT
>Just got hold of Tamiya's beautiful 1/72 Fiseler V-1 bomb, and I'm
>thinking of doing something different from the bomb on trolley look.
>
>Were there any Luft 46 designs that used the V-1 bomb?

Dragon used to make a Ar 234 B 'huckebak' version with the V-1 carried
piggyback on the 4-jet version of the 234.

Wulf
The Old Timer - 18 Jul 2004 15:22 GMT
>>Just got hold of Tamiya's beautiful 1/72 Fiseler V-1 bomb, and I'm
>>thinking of doing something different from the bomb on trolley look.
>>Were there any Luft 46 designs that used the V-1 bomb?

>Dragon used to make a Ar 234 B 'huckebak' version with the V-1 carried
>piggyback on the 4-jet version of the 234.

That and the Fi.103 "Reichenberg" manned variant.
Ford Motor Co. also made a knock-off JB-1 'Loon', IIRC that was tested towards
the end of the war and postwar for about five years or so.

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Kurt Laughlin - 18 Jul 2004 16:57 GMT
> Ford Motor Co. also made a knock-off JB-1 'Loon', IIRC that was tested towards
> the end of the war and postwar for about five years or so.

More than just tested - they made several thousand.  The plan was, come
September 1945 and beyond, to hit the Japanese with something like 2000
JB-1s _per day_, just to keep them on their toes.  They were also scheduled
to drop anthrax spores and rice blast virus.

Total War.

KL
Mad-Modeller - 19 Jul 2004 00:09 GMT
> >Just got hold of Tamiya's beautiful 1/72 Fiseler V-1 bomb, and I'm
> >thinking of doing something different from the bomb on trolley look.
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>
> Wulf

I 'think' Frog's might have had a towing device for a V-1.  I'll have to
check the kit tonight.

Bill Banaszak, MFE
e - 18 Jul 2004 23:34 GMT
>> >Just got hold of Tamiya's beautiful 1/72 Fiseler V-1 bomb, and I'm
>> >thinking of doing something different from the bomb on trolley look.
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>
>Bill Banaszak, MFE

billy green lists both as studies, i believe.
steve gallacci - 18 Jul 2004 16:14 GMT
> Just got hold of Tamiya's beautiful 1/72 Fiseler V-1 bomb, and I'm
> thinking of doing something different from the bomb on trolley look.
>
> Were there any Luft 46 designs that used the V-1 bomb?

Ah, 1/72? If you mean their 1/48 kit, it is actually a stinker.
Inaccurate in almost every detail.
Kurt Laughlin - 18 Jul 2004 16:53 GMT
> Were there any Luft 46 designs that used the V-1 bomb?

Yes, the one with a radioactive silica "dirty bomb" warhead.

KL
e - 18 Jul 2004 19:12 GMT
>> Were there any Luft 46 designs that used the V-1 bomb?
>
>Yes, the one with a radioactive silica "dirty bomb" warhead.
>
>KL

dropped by a me 264?
Kurt Laughlin - 18 Jul 2004 22:39 GMT
> dropped by a me 264?

Nah, just launched over England and Paris normally.  But wait you say - The
Germans had been pushed back so that the V-1 could no longer reach England!
Well, the whole "Luft '46" spiel requires a stunning suspension of disbelief
just to exist . . .

KL
e - 18 Jul 2004 23:02 GMT
>> dropped by a me 264?
>
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>
>KL

like that awfull book where the nassis get the bomb in late
44 and change the war? in the book they nuke the russian
armies and the death camps and get a peace with the west.
Edwin Ross Quantrall - 19 Jul 2004 05:21 GMT
>>>dropped by a me 264?
>>>
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> 44 and change the war? in the book they nuke the russian
> armies and the death camps and get a peace with the west.

Are you referring to Robert Harris's "Fatherland"?

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e - 19 Jul 2004 05:39 GMT
>>>>dropped by a me 264?
>>>>
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>
>Are you referring to Robert Harris's "Fatherland"?

i don't think so. it's told from someone live in a
fragmented america and features jo goebbels daughter's
memoirs. i've been looking but the tame black hole i use
for storage is being fiesty.
Edwin Ross Quantrall - 20 Jul 2004 06:59 GMT
>>>>>dropped by a me 264?
>>>>>
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> memoirs. i've been looking but the tame black hole i use
> for storage is being fiesty.

There are no such things as "tame" Black Holes, only trained ones... :-P

BTW: If your BH ever gives it back, I'd like to know the title so that I
can add it to my "future reading" list...

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e - 20 Jul 2004 17:07 GMT
>>>>>>dropped by a me 264?
>>>>>>
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>BTW: If your BH ever gives it back, I'd like to know the title so that I
>can add it to my "future reading" list...

i'll kick it into submission. when i find it, i can loan it
to you.
Edwin Ross Quantrall - 21 Jul 2004 04:28 GMT
>>>>>>>dropped by a me 264?
>>>>>>>
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> i'll kick it into submission. when i find it, i can loan it
> to you.

Be gentle! They can be dangerous when angered... ;-)

Also, I'm not sure when you'd get it back. I have a pretty looooooong list!

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Honestly. It's the honest ones you want to watch out for, because you
can never predict when they're going to do something incredibly stupid."
- Captain Jack Sparrow (Disney's Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of
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e - 21 Jul 2004 06:49 GMT
>>>>>>>>dropped by a me 264?
>>>>>>>>
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>Also, I'm not sure when you'd get it back. I have a pretty looooooong list!

sorry i mistook you and mark...but you are welcome to borrow
it.
Edwin Ross Quantrall - 22 Jul 2004 05:10 GMT
>>>>>>>>>dropped by a me 264?
>>>>>>>>>
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> sorry i mistook you and mark...but you are welcome to borrow
> it.

You can send it whenever you send my next pair of tapes/CDs back. I'm
going to see if I can send the "Bismarck" and "Rufe" models sometime
next week.

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Honestly. It's the honest ones you want to watch out for, because you
can never predict when they're going to do something incredibly stupid."
- Captain Jack Sparrow (Disney's Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of
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e - 22 Jul 2004 05:19 GMT
>You can send it whenever you send my next pair of tapes/CDs back. I'm
>going to see if I can send the "Bismarck" and "Rufe" models sometime
>next week.

great. got your email and replyed.
Greg Heilers - 20 Jul 2004 06:08 GMT
> Just got hold of Tamiya's beautiful 1/72 Fiseler V-1 bomb, and I'm
> thinking of doing something different from the bomb on trolley look.
>
> Were there any Luft 46 designs that used the V-1 bomb?

Which "luft46" kit was it, a few years back, that had the box art
featuring the aircraft attacking a group of B-35's?  I would *love*
to have a full size print of that artwork.....

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The Old Timer - 20 Jul 2004 13:20 GMT
>Which "luft46" kit was it, a few years back, that had the box art
>featuring the aircraft attacking a group of B-35's?  I would *love*
>to have a full size print of that artwork.....

That was a Messerschmitt Me.P.1101 Night Fighter variant, from Japan (I think
Hasagawa, but don't remember offhand). Its a nice little kit.

-- John
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Wulf Corbett - 20 Jul 2004 17:52 GMT
>>Which "luft46" kit was it, a few years back, that had the box art
>>featuring the aircraft attacking a group of B-35's?  I would *love*
>>to have a full size print of that artwork.....
>
>That was a Messerschmitt Me.P.1101 Night Fighter variant, from Japan (I think
>Hasagawa, but don't remember offhand). Its a nice little kit.

Dragon. I have a couple... erm... somewhere...

Wulf
 
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