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Model Forum / General / Models / July 2004F-15 cockpit metallic blue/green
Is there some brand of paint that has the right color for the metallic blue/green seen in the avionics bay of the F-15 or do I have to mix colors to get the right shade? Thanks in advance -- Yuri Rambelli To send e-mail write "mclink" instead of "non.credoproprio" in the return address. Gunze sanyo has a metallic blue/green that is real close. Also a few years ago someone did a F-15 interior blue/green paint but ZI don't remember the manufacturer. Stan Parker > Is there some brand of paint that has the right color for the metallic > blue/green seen in the avionics bay of the F-15 or do I have to mix [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > To send e-mail write "mclink" instead of "non.credoproprio" in the > return address. > Gunze sanyo has a metallic blue/green that is real close. Also a few years > ago someone did a F-15 interior blue/green paint but ZI don't remember the > manufacturer. The paint is just a green Zinc Chromate. Testors makes a ZC paint, but I don't know if it's yellow or green. g.  Signaturehttp://www.f15sim.com - The only one of its kind. >> Gunze sanyo has a metallic blue/green that is real close. Also a few years >> ago someone did a F-15 interior blue/green paint but ZI don't remember the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >g. both in the little squares. zcy and zcg. >>Gunze sanyo has a metallic blue/green that is real close. Also a few years >>ago someone did a F-15 interior blue/green paint but ZI don't remember the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > g. Actually, it isn't. It's not really just "paint", it's a sort of metal treatment; I forget just what kind. It's a sort of blue-green, and looks nothing like Z-C. Signature- Rufus > > The paint is just a green Zinc Chromate. Testors makes a ZC paint, but > > I don't know if it's yellow or green. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > treatment; I forget just what kind. It's a sort of blue-green, and > looks nothing like Z-C. ######### Sorry, gents, it IS paint, but it's not Zinc Chromate. It's a metallic green (no blue in it) epoxy paint specifically created for McDonnell Douglas to protect aluminum from weather-caused corrosion. It's used in all areas (except landing gear wells) that are routinely opened and exposed to weather. There is no FS number equivalent for this paint.. Landing gear wells are painted with this green paint, and then given a coat of white epoxy paint for an extra-tough double layer of protection. Mike Brickman >>>The paint is just a green Zinc Chromate. Testors makes a ZC paint, but >>>I don't know if it's yellow or green. [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Mike Brickman Yes - it isn't ZC, but from what I know of it it also isn't a coating which really qualifies as "paint"...at least not as us modelers might think of it. I think the process is a bit more complicated than just spraying it on...but I haven't been in the paint shop for a bit. Yes - it is a standard McDonnell process metal coating, and it's used on more than just F-15's. And it IS a blueish green...more green, but bluish green nonetheless. Signature- Rufus > >>>The paint is just a green Zinc Chromate. Testors makes a ZC paint, but > >>>I don't know if it's yellow or green. [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > more than just F-15's. And it IS a blueish green...more green, but > bluish green nonetheless. Sorry, Rufus. I don't mean to be rude, but the green metallic color is an epoxy paint. The bronze color you see in photos of unpainted F-15s and F18s is the anodized aluminum coating that you're referring to. I've walked through the assembly line hundreds of times over the years, and our IPMS chapter has hosted a couple of McDonnell Douglas guys who worked in the paint shop applying the stuff, so I can state with certainty that it is a 2-part epoxy that is mixed right before application. Mike Brickman >>>>>The paint is just a green Zinc Chromate. Testors makes a ZC paint, but >>>>>I don't know if it's yellow or green. [quoted text clipped - 40 lines] > > Mike Brickman Being one of those McDonnell guys myself (that works in the field - coming up on 20 years), I'll check with my Field Servce folks on Monday when I get back to work. Like I said it's been awhile since I've been in the paint shop, and I usually see the raw stuff applied in small amounts when repairing/modifying jets (and I don't recall the shop guys having to mix it up for such repairs, though). I think the undercoat you're referring to is called allodyne...but I'll have to look that up too. (I know the exterior surfaces are painted with a urethane stuff...that used to routinely get all over our cars in the Bldg 42 parking lot...) I'm thinking in terms of the process spec for its application (it may be the allodyne spec I'm thinking of), so I may be mixing up specs. I know the stuff is more durable than the white paint that goes over it on the Navy jets. And Northrop uses it too - they make the back end of the F/A-18 series and it's there as well. I'll also check to see if it's a McDonnell propriatary coating...I'd be surprised if it is. Signature- Rufus Hi, Alodine is a brand name. Like Kleenex is for tissue. AKA chem film, chromate, chromate conversion, gold chromate, yellow chromate. And the only one that really counts. MIL-C-5541 Chemical conversion coatings. SignatureJohn johnf 202 at hotmail dot com | >>>>>The paint is just a green Zinc Chromate. Testors makes a ZC paint, but | >>>>>I don't know if it's yellow or green. [quoted text clipped - 58 lines] | F/A-18 series and it's there as well. I'll also check to see if it's a | McDonnell propriatary coating...I'd be surprised if it is. > Hi, > Alodine is a brand name. Like Kleenex is for tissue. > AKA chem film, chromate, chromate conversion, gold chromate, yellow > chromate. > And the only one that really counts. > MIL-C-5541 Chemical conversion coatings. Yes - and I'm no sure the same doesn't hold for the blue-green primer...whatever it is. I know there are process specs for both of them. Signature- Rufus >Is there some brand of paint that has the right color for the metallic >blue/green seen in the avionics bay of the F-15 or do I have to mix >colors to get the right shade? I used Testors (Model Master paint line) Japanese interior metallic green. Excellent match, after looking in a real F 15 C model, it looks dead on "Only a Gentleman can insult me, and a true Gentleman never will..." > Is there some brand of paint that has the right color for the metallic > blue/green seen in the avionics bay of the F-15 or do I have to mix [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > To send e-mail write "mclink" instead of "non.credoproprio" in the > return address. Model Master Interior Metallic Blue - #2119, I think...at least that's what I gather from the bottle I have. Signature- Rufus |
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