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Mad Modeller - 20 Oct 2004 07:56 GMT
I sure wish there was some way to get rid of this parasite.

Bill Banaszak, MFE
Ron - 20 Oct 2004 07:06 GMT
Teach it to breathe through its nostrils, chew with its mouth closed,
bathe (with soap AND water), wipe its butt after defecation, how not to
have its head explode when seeing a "real live female breast, naked" and
also to mess its underwear at the same time........ah hell, there's just
too much it needs to learn about real life rather than spend all its
time pecking at keys.......

> I sure wish there was some way to get rid of this parasite.
>
> Bill Banaszak, MFE
e - 20 Oct 2004 11:40 GMT
>Teach it to breathe through its nostrils, chew with its mouth closed,
>bathe (with soap AND water), wipe its butt after defecation, how not to
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>>
>> Bill Banaszak, MFE
notice the anonymous remailer? shows it's courage.
privacy.at Anonymous Remailer - 20 Oct 2004 17:43 GMT
> notice the anonymous remailer? shows it's courage.

    From: Vrodok the Troll <vrodok@culvert.waadi.com>
    Newsgroups: alt.binaries.cracks
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    Something wrong with using a remailer?

    From: SinecuRe <sinecure@vcyjro.bet>
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    A remailer is definitely better than hanging your IP out there.

    From: "(akula)" <akula@nym.alias.net>
    Newsgroups: alt.binaries.warez.ibm-pc.d
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    The safest route is to trust no one and use remailers and
    mail2news to communicate via usenet.

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    I use the remailers too,  a.shole.  I know how they work.
W - 20 Oct 2004 07:07 GMT
> I sure wish there was some way to get rid of this parasite.
>
> Bill Banaszak, MFE

You have to laugh though, at the sheer gutless behaviour of whoever is
behind the Anon-Remailer.

The sanest solution is a filter.
Al Superczynski - 20 Oct 2004 07:27 GMT
>I sure wish there was some way to get rid of this parasite.

    You mean the one I have killfiled?
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Kurt Laughlin - 20 Oct 2004 14:43 GMT
>>I sure wish there was some way to get rid of this parasite.
>
>     You mean the one I have killfiled?

That only hides him.  We need a way to get rid of him.

KL
e - 20 Oct 2004 21:35 GMT
>>>I sure wish there was some way to get rid of this parasite.
>>
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>
>KL

starvation is the worst you can do. it feeds on negative
emotions.
Kurt Laughlin - 20 Oct 2004 21:56 GMT
>>That only hides him.  We need a way to get rid of him.

> starvation is the worst you can do. it feeds on negative
> emotions.

I don't want the "worst" I can do.  I want the best, like putting his typing
fingers into a meat grinder.
For starters.

KL
William H. Shuey - 20 Oct 2004 22:34 GMT
> >>That only hides him.  We need a way to get rid of him.
>
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>
> KL

Czech BRNO built Mauser 98K sniper with Zeiss, Jena, scope! Always
wanted to see just how good it is.

                            Bill Shuey
Ron - 20 Oct 2004 22:44 GMT
> Czech BRNO built Mauser 98K sniper with Zeiss, Jena, scope! Always
> wanted to see just how good it is.

It ain't shabby but not quite as nice as an '03A4 with a Unertl 1-1/4"
Target model on it.
Bill Woodier - 20 Oct 2004 22:58 GMT
I wouldn't advocate killing someone for crossposting but since you're talking
weaponry......

By the grace of Allah the merciful, the compassionate, ALLAH AKBAR, the
protector of the brave and stalwart people of Iraq; the keeper of its great and
beloved ruler, Saddam Husayn; I seem to have come into possession of a
Dragunov.  Once you get one of those scoped in and use the proper match ammo,
it's quite accurate.

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Dave Williams - 20 Oct 2004 23:24 GMT
I'll take my Accuracy International AWP with the Leupold M3 scope.

> I wouldn't advocate killing someone for crossposting but since you're talking
> weaponry......
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>
> My home page:  http://www.bill-woodier.com/home.htm
Bill Woodier - 21 Oct 2004 22:00 GMT
"Dave Williams" dwill104@bellsouth.net
wrote:

>I'll take my Accuracy International AWP with the Leupold M3 scope.

Yeah but I'd bet I paid less for mine than you did.  Mine was free.   ;~)

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Maiesm72 - 22 Oct 2004 19:03 GMT
>Yeah but I'd bet I paid less for mine than you did.  Mine was free.   ;~)

Ditto, but a little older.

Inherited my Sharps buffalo gun. Took it to be restored and it needed cleaning
and that's about it. Little corrosion on the outside, none in the bore.

The guy at the gun shop said that a Sharps like mine in the hands of an expert
could hit a 12"x12" target at a tremendous distance.

What was the name of the movie that featured a Sharps marksman? "Valdez is
Coming" IIRC.

Tom
e - 22 Oct 2004 20:52 GMT
>>Yeah but I'd bet I paid less for mine than you did.  Mine was free.   ;~)
>
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>
>Tom
wasn't the amazing shot of one mile that killed an indian
sieging a camp a sharp's?
William H. Shuey - 22 Oct 2004 22:41 GMT
> What was the name of the movie that featured a Sharps marksman? "Valdez is
> Coming" IIRC.

"Quigly Down Under", starring Tom Selleck!

                Bill Shuey
Maiesm72 - 23 Oct 2004 07:56 GMT
>Valdez is
>> Coming" IIRC.

>"Quigly Down Under", starring Tom Selleck!

Both, actually. It was about a mile long shot.

Tom
The Old Timer - 23 Oct 2004 00:32 GMT
>What was the name of the movie that featured a Sharps marksman? "Valdez is
>Coming" IIRC.

Or also "Quigley Down Under" with Tom Selleck. A friend who ~is~ an expert told
me that sequence where Selleck made a water bucket dance at a quarter-mile was
pretty much accurate. Me, I'd be happy just to ~see~ the damn bucket!

-- John
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Ron - 23 Oct 2004 04:25 GMT
> Or also "Quigley Down Under" with Tom Selleck. A friend who ~is~ an expert told
> me that sequence where Selleck made a water bucket dance at a quarter-mile was
> pretty much accurate. Me, I'd be happy just to ~see~ the damn bucket!

*Only* a quarter mile? 99% hit a large pizza pan, 78% a standard pie tin
at 1000 yards......over half a mile......damn but I love
6.5mm's........6.5X55 Swede or 6.5-06, failing that I'll use a .30-06.
The Old Timer - 23 Oct 2004 13:16 GMT
>> Or also "Quigley Down Under" with Tom Selleck. A friend who ~is~ an expert
>> told me that sequence where Selleck made a water bucket dance at a quarter-
>> mile was pretty much accurate. Me, I'd be happy just to ~see~ the damn
bucket!

>*Only* a quarter mile? 99% hit a large pizza pan, 78% a standard pie tin
>at 1000 yards......over half a mile......damn but I love
>6.5mm's........6.5X55 Swede or 6.5-06, failing that I'll use a .30-06.

This was with ~no~ scope, just the old fashioned windage and elevation trapeze.
As I said, I'd be happy just to ~see~ the damn bucket!

-- John
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Ron - 23 Oct 2004 15:27 GMT
> >*Only* a quarter mile? 99% hit a large pizza pan, 78% a standard pie tin
> >at 1000 yards......over half a mile......damn but I love
> >6.5mm's........6.5X55 Swede or 6.5-06, failing that I'll use a .30-06.
>
> This was with ~no~ scope, just the old fashioned windage and elevation trapeze.
> As I said, I'd be happy just to ~see~ the damn bucket!

Oh, you wanted iron sights, change the number to 95% and 70% then.
Mark Schynert - 21 Oct 2004 00:29 GMT
> I wouldn't advocate killing someone for crossposting but since you're talking
> weaponry......
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>
> My home page:  http://www.bill-woodier.com/home.htm

This is the problem with you $&%*#&% conservatives--you don't understand
victimhood. Give me a shot at his butt at twenty feet with a 12-guage
and a load of rock salt.

Mark Schynert
e - 21 Oct 2004 03:54 GMT
>> I wouldn't advocate killing someone for crossposting but since you're talking
>> weaponry......
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>
>Mark Schynert
repeat often. rinse with battery acid to prevent
heal..infection.
Mad Modeller - 21 Oct 2004 04:07 GMT
> > I wouldn't advocate killing someone for crossposting but since you're talking
> > weaponry......
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>
> Mark Schynert

Well, I was going to suggest a public flogging but that sounds pretty
good too.

Bill Banaszak, MFE
e - 21 Oct 2004 03:53 GMT
>I wouldn't advocate killing someone for crossposting but since you're talking
>weaponry......
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>
>My home page:  http://www.bill-woodier.com/home.htm

now my sons, be not hasty. make it squirm. remove skin in 1
inch squares with salt therapy. get creative with a battery
charger, bamboo? a vice is nice.
cowards deserve to die many deaths.
e - 21 Oct 2004 03:49 GMT
>> >>That only hides him.  We need a way to get rid of him.
>>
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>
>                                                        Bill Shuey
too quick. defoilazation, followed by defenestration.
Mad Modeller - 21 Oct 2004 05:49 GMT
> >> >>That only hides him.  We need a way to get rid of him.
> >>
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> >                                                        Bill Shuey
> too quick. defoilazation, followed by defenestration.

What is it with you guys?  Always throwing people out of windows! :)

Just got my copy of The Hussite Wars from Osprey.  Apparently the Prague
defenestration was done first in the 1400s.

Bill Banaszak, MFE
e - 21 Oct 2004 06:36 GMT
>> >> >>That only hides him.  We need a way to get rid of him.
>> >>
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>
>Bill Banaszak, MFE
wasn't one of them to save money on bullets?
nice high castles around prague. good views on the way down.
Keeper - 26 Oct 2004 08:04 GMT
>>Just got my copy of The Hussite Wars from Osprey.  Apparently the Prague
>>defenestration was done first in the 1400s.
>>
>>Bill Banaszak, MFE

>wasn't one of them to save money on bullets?
>nice high castles around prague. good views on the way down.

Gee, I can't imagine many two story buildings back then. I think you need three
to insure mortal wounds. I'm thinking a trebuchet would be loads of fun.
Yahoo!

The Keeper (of too much crap!)
e - 26 Oct 2004 08:43 GMT
>>>Just got my copy of The Hussite Wars from Osprey.  Apparently the Prague
>>>defenestration was done first in the 1400s.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
>The Keeper (of too much crap!)

yeah, we could play crusader's sieging jeruselum and shoot
in the heads of the infidel trolls.
Mad Modeller - 27 Oct 2004 06:09 GMT
> >>>Just got my copy of The Hussite Wars from Osprey.  Apparently the Prague
> >>>defenestration was done first in the 1400s.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> yeah, we could play crusader's sieging jeruselum and shoot
> in the heads of the infidel trolls.

I remember somebody (Bill Shuey?) mentioning the throwees landing in
manure.  According to the book it was a forest of spear points.

Bill Banaszak, MFE
e - 27 Oct 2004 06:58 GMT
>> >>>Just got my copy of The Hussite Wars from Osprey.  Apparently the Prague
>> >>>defenestration was done first in the 1400s.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
>Bill Banaszak, MFE
it ain't that fall that kills you....
TimeTraveler658 - 27 Oct 2004 16:34 GMT
>to insure mortal wounds. I'm thinking a trebuchet would be loads of
fun...Yahoo!>>

I missed the original post, so if this is out of context, I apologize.  If
you're referring to using a trebuchet as a device to sling bodies, that was
actually done at one point, although I don't remember the circumstances.  It
was done during the Middle Ages when the plague was raging through Europe.
Infected bodies were slung over the castle walls to infect those inside.

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Maiesm72 - 27 Oct 2004 17:10 GMT
> If you're referring to using a trebuchet as a device to sling bodies, that
was
>actually done at one point

And again in "History of the World:Part One" by Mel Brooks.

Mel played the king. He would yell "Pull" and a peasant was launched.

Servant: "The peasants are revolting!".

King: "Yes, I know" or something along those lines.

Best line in the movie: "It's good to be the king".

Love that movie.

Tom
Larry Farrell - 27 Oct 2004 17:37 GMT
>>to insure mortal wounds. I'm thinking a trebuchet would be loads of
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> was done during the Middle Ages when the plague was raging through Europe.
> Infected bodies were slung over the castle walls to infect those inside.

1346 - The siege of Kaffa (currently Feodosiya, Ukraine).  There are
suggestions that this was the source for the outbreak of the Black Death
that eventually swept across Europe.

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The Old Timer - 27 Oct 2004 20:09 GMT
> I missed the original post, so if this is out of context, I apologize.  If
> you're referring to using a trebuchet as a device to sling bodies, that was
> actually done at one point, although I don't remember the circumstances.  It
> was done during the Middle Ages when the plague was raging through Europe.
> Infected bodies were slung over the castle walls to infect those inside.

According to sources that I have read it happened in 1327 (or so) during a
seige in Asia Minor, where the attackers (Tatars, Mongols, I don't remember)
where trying to take a merchant enclave on the northern shore of the Black Sea.
They launched the bodies of some of their own troops that had died of the
Plague over the city walls. As some of the defenders started to get sick, a
group of Italian (Genoan, IIRC) merchants took to their ship and sailed for
home. By the time they got to Italy, most were down with the disease, if not
dying, and when they landed in southern Italy, the Plague took off like
wildfire.
Within five years, 1/3 to 1/2 of Europe was dead.
My books claims that this was one of the first (if not THE first) uses of
bio-warfare.

-- John
The history of things that didn't happen has never been written.
.          -                                   -                              
     - Henry Kissinger
e - 27 Oct 2004 21:07 GMT
>> I missed the original post, so if this is out of context, I apologize.  If
>> you're referring to using a trebuchet as a device to sling bodies, that was
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
>
>      - Henry Kissinger

i think it was a few years later but you have it correct. a
good source is the barbara tuchman book, a distant mirror.
(creds to da boid)
Mad Modeller - 28 Oct 2004 04:13 GMT
> >to insure mortal wounds. I'm thinking a trebuchet would be loads of
> fun...Yahoo!>>
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> EAA # 729686
> delete the word spam from email addy

I have a movie on tape with Rutger Hauer set in Medieval Italy that has
such an occurrence.  The name has escaped my memory probes.
It was remarkable for the gritty display of fighting and life in those
days.  There certainly were no 'heroes' involved.

Bill Banaszak, MFE
The Old Timer - 28 Oct 2004 13:23 GMT
>I have a movie on tape with Rutger Hauer set in Medieval Italy that has
>such an occurrence.  The name has escaped my memory probes.
>It was remarkable for the gritty display of fighting and life in those
>days.  There certainly were no 'heroes' involved.

Possibly "Ladyhawk"?

-- John
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Ron - 28 Oct 2004 14:51 GMT
> Possibly "Ladyhawk"?

No, it was something Blood.......at least blood was in the title.
Joe Jefferson - 28 Oct 2004 16:43 GMT
> > Possibly "Ladyhawk"?
>
> No, it was something Blood.......at least blood was in the title.

It sounds like you're thinking of _Flesh and Blood_, which also starred
Jennifer Jason Leigh.

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Ron - 29 Oct 2004 03:41 GMT
> > > Possibly "Ladyhawk"?
> >
> > No, it was something Blood.......at least blood was in the title.
>
> It sounds like you're thinking of _Flesh and Blood_, which also starred
> Jennifer Jason Leigh.

That's the one!
Mad Modeller - 29 Oct 2004 04:30 GMT
> > > Possibly "Ladyhawk"?
> >
> > No, it was something Blood.......at least blood was in the title.
>
> It sounds like you're thinking of _Flesh and Blood_, which also starred
> Jennifer Jason Leigh.

We have a Winner!

Bill Banaszak, MFE
Mad Modeller - 29 Oct 2004 04:28 GMT
> >I have a movie on tape with Rutger Hauer set in Medieval Italy that has
> >such an occurrence.  The name has escaped my memory probes.
> >It was remarkable for the gritty display of fighting and life in those
> >days.  There certainly were no 'heroes' involved.
>
> Possibly "Ladyhawk"?

No, that was set in the south of France.  This one had Jennifer Jason
Leigh, not Michelle Pfeiffer.
The characters were a motley crew of infantry and camp followers who
take a castle and try to hold it against a fellow named Hawksworth,
IIRC.  Hawksworth was an English condottiere working for some princeling
whose daughter (Leigh) was kidnapped by Hauer.
Funny how I can remember the plot and characters but the title is
avoiding discovery.

Bill Banaszak, MFE
The Old Timer - 29 Oct 2004 13:25 GMT
>No, that was set in the south of France.  This one had Jennifer Jason
>Leigh, not Michelle Pfeiffer.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Funny how I can remember the plot and characters but the title is
>avoiding discovery.

Okay, according to my Leonard Maltin disk, it was released as "Flesh + Blood"
and is available on video as "The Rose & The Sword".
God I love interactive disks!

-- John
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.          -                                   -                              
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Mad Modeller - 31 Oct 2004 03:13 GMT
> >No, that was set in the south of France.  This one had Jennifer Jason
> >Leigh, not Michelle Pfeiffer.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> .          -                                   -
>       - Henry Kissinger

I taped it off the TV about 12 years ago as "Flesh & Blood" and it's now
located 'somewhere' in the collection.  Along the way my taping
outdistanced my recordkeeping.
I've been going through my "Andromeda" tapes and was amazed to find the
first episode on Tape-ANA.  Considering how I assigned numbers so long
after taping I wasn't sure which tape of the first 6 was really the
first.  Now I have to watch the whole tape to see if the first show on
ANB matches up with the last on ANA. :)

Bill Banaszak, MFE
Gary R. Schmidt - 28 Oct 2004 14:31 GMT
>>to insure mortal wounds. I'm thinking a trebuchet would be loads of
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> was done during the Middle Ages when the plague was raging through Europe.
> Infected bodies were slung over the castle walls to infect those inside.

Well, they've been used to fling cows around, in "Monty Python's Holy
Grail" a cow is flung by the frogs who told Arthur King that they
"already had a grail."

    Cheers,
        Gary    B-)

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e - 28 Oct 2004 17:18 GMT
>>>to insure mortal wounds. I'm thinking a trebuchet would be loads of
>>
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>        Cheers,
>                Gary    B-)

i suspect those were special effects.
The Old Timer - 28 Oct 2004 17:39 GMT
>>>> to insure mortal wounds. I'm thinking a trebuchet would be
>>>> loads of fun...Yahoo!>>

>>> I missed the original post, so if this is out of context, I apologize.
>>> If you're referring to using a trebuchet as a device to sling bodies,
>>> that was actually done at one point, although I don't remember the
>>> circumstances. It was done during the Middle Ages when the
>>> plague was raging through Europe.

>> Well, they've been used to fling cows around, in "Monty Python's Holy
>> Grail" a cow is flung by the frogs who told Arthur King that they
>> "already had a grail."

A local group is doing something like that this weekend. Pumpkins are the
ammunition of choice and there'll be several trebuchets and catapults. Saw a
big one on the television a couple of years ago that they used to toss a Ford
Anglia and a couple of old pianos. That was a real monster and according to the
news story, there are records of even bigger ones being built.

-- John
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Keeper - 29 Oct 2004 05:46 GMT
>Saw a
>big one on the television a couple of years ago that they used to toss a Ford
>Anglia and a couple of old pianos. That was a real monster and according to
>the
>news story, there are records of even bigger ones being built.

> -- John

Yes, I saw that as well. In England as I recall, the video of the Ford
traveling through the air was quite impressive. What was that popular series in
the late nineties about an Alaskan community? They had an episode with a piano
flinging trebuchet. <North something? I'll remember as soon as I send...>

The Keeper (of too much crap!)
Eyeball2002308 - 29 Oct 2004 05:51 GMT
> What was that popular series in
>the late nineties about an Alaskan community? They had an episode with a
>piano
>flinging trebuchet. <North something? I'll remember as soon as I send...>

Northern Exposure?
Keeper - 29 Oct 2004 07:29 GMT
>> What was that popular series in
>>the late nineties about an Alaskan community? They had an episode with a
>>piano
>>flinging trebuchet. <North something? I'll remember as soon as I send...>
>
>Northern Exposure?

Aye, that's the one! It looked really great in slow motion. Never was able to
get a tape of it but I'll live.
Cheers,

The Keeper (of too much crap!)
TimeTraveler658 - 29 Oct 2004 14:41 GMT
>Aye, that's the one! It looked really great in slow motion. Never was able to
get a tape of it but I'll live. Cheers, The Keeper>>

Aye Lads, t'was indeed Northern Exposure, one of my favorite shows.  Chris,
the rather eccentric minister/man-of-the-world/renaissance type originally
built the trebuchet as a method of sendoff to honor his friend Toulie.  With a
solemn ceremony, and a fly-by by O'Connell in her recently built ultralight,
the coffin was sent off into the wild blue, ending in a resounding splash and
geyser of water in a local lake.  While being taken to task on this sendoff, he
remarked, "It's not the thing, but the fling itself".  I just happen to have
these episodes on tape.  Would make an interesting diorama for those interested
in the trebuchet, and the show.  Or, as others have noted, a trebuchet flinging
cows, people etc as a nod toward some of the movies mentioned.

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The Old Timer - 28 Oct 2004 17:46 GMT
By the way, according to my Edwin Tunis book "Weapons: A Pictorial History",
there was a tyrp of catpult that the Romans called Mangonel (Wild a.s) because
the rear portion lifted up when it was fired, like a jackass kicking back.
After a time, the name was shortened to "Gonne". That gave its name to the
firearms that we know and love today.

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Gary R. Schmidt - 29 Oct 2004 04:29 GMT
>>>>to insure mortal wounds. I'm thinking a trebuchet would be loads of
>>>
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>
> i suspect those were special effects.
No, it was a real (stuffed) cow.

    Cheers,
        Gary    B-)

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Moramarth - 21 Oct 2004 20:11 GMT
>What is it with you guys?  Always throwing people out of windows! :)
>
>Just got my copy of The Hussite Wars from Osprey.  Apparently the Prague
>defenestration was done first in the 1400s.
IIRC, everyone survived that one - there was a dunghill under the
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Moramarth - 21 Oct 2004 20:16 GMT
>Czech BRNO built Mauser 98K sniper with Zeiss, Jena, scope! Always
>wanted to see just how good it is.
Classy, but pricey, and far too good for the uffies.  A half brick in a
long sock applied with all the vigour generated by the antipathy their
antics create would surely be more satisfying?

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>                                                       Bill Shuey

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e - 21 Oct 2004 20:59 GMT
>>Czech BRNO built Mauser 98K sniper with Zeiss, Jena, scope! Always
>>wanted to see just how good it is.
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>Regards,
>>                                                       Bill Shuey

lock them all in one room for a week. can't get much crueler
than that. you wouldn't need to put in food, some would
survive easily.
e - 21 Oct 2004 03:50 GMT
>>>That only hides him.  We need a way to get rid of him.
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>KL

well, as you can see, it usese a remailer. and also uses
open proxy's to sock. know any good hackers? coupla six
packs to a group will get him. i'll donate some gas money.
it has gotten sloppy and arrogant, nobody's wasted the time
in the few years it's been stinking up usenet.
William H. Shuey - 20 Oct 2004 22:32 GMT
> >>I sure wish there was some way to get rid of this parasite.
> >
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>
> KL

If someone could find out his real name and snail mail addy, I'm sure
there are any number of people with the right equipment to eliminate
him. That's why he uses an anonymous mailer. His kind of pervert would
be history otherwise. Of course, if we could just find the snail mail
addy of the re-mailer service there is always that route. "Bang"!

                            Bill Shuey
e - 21 Oct 2004 03:51 GMT
>> >>I sure wish there was some way to get rid of this parasite.
>> >
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>
>                                                        Bill Shuey
be much better to out it and let the process servers clean
it out, then let the haters have it for fun.
Al Superczynski - 21 Oct 2004 05:20 GMT
>>>I sure wish there was some way to get rid of this parasite.
>>
>>     You mean the one I have killfiled?
>
>That only hides him.  We need a way to get rid of him.

    If I can't see him, I'm rid of him.  Works for me.
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Mad Modeller - 21 Oct 2004 04:17 GMT
> >I sure wish there was some way to get rid of this parasite.
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> "Build what YOU like, the way YOU want to,
> and the critics will flame you every time."

Possibly.

Bill Banaszak, MFE
Maiesm72 - 21 Oct 2004 06:42 GMT
Jeeze, guys!

The blood lust sure is up. You guys are planning the demise of this guy (I
never did see the original post) as if he murdered your only child.

If you were all back to bashing each other over the internet head it would
smell like Beaver Pizza around here agan.

Tom
Mark Schynert - 21 Oct 2004 07:16 GMT
> Jeeze, guys!
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Tom

Actually, I've missed most of this guy's antics, as demonstrated by the
60-some-odd killed messages I've toted up in the last five
days--probably only a part of it is him, but still...

I don't killfile very many people--even obnoxious doesn't take me there
usually. I killfile people who are clearly never going to contribute
anything of interest to the ng, and threads that are neither on-topic
nor (at the least) perversely amusing.

The problem is just like when you see some *%#$@ screwing up on the
freeway to your inconvenience and getting away with it. For a moment,
most of us want to inflict pain on such meatheads. We would never do it,
simply because it ain't worth wrecking your life. But we can dream that
there will be payback. Or maybe God sorts it out.

Mark Schynert
Martin - 21 Oct 2004 16:40 GMT
>>The problem is just like when you see some *%#$@ screwing up on the
>>freeway to your inconvenience and getting away with it. For a moment,
>>most of us want to inflict pain on such meatheads. We would never do it,
>>simply because it ain't worth wrecking your life. But we can dream that
>>there will be payback. Or maybe God sorts it out.

I know of someone who did do it - it works!

However I don't know real name or anything of the victim (ng victim not
scared troll)
e - 21 Oct 2004 18:01 GMT
>>>The problem is just like when you see some *%#$@ screwing up on the
>>>freeway to your inconvenience and getting away with it. For a moment,
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>However I don't know real name or anything of the victim (ng victim not
>scared troll)

don't know if it's true, but i heard the story of a guy
selling shortwave crap on ebay, only he took the money and
never shipped the goods. supposedly an irate customer showed
up at his door and shot him dead.
anyone heard this one?
e - 21 Oct 2004 18:00 GMT
>> Jeeze, guys!
>>
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
>Mark Schynert

i also believe that anything as miserable as that thing is
surely it's own reward. can you bet it's divorced, surronded
by macdumbells wrappers and needs a bath?
Ron - 21 Oct 2004 07:30 GMT
Now, now, I simply did a rifle/scope comparison, I did not advocate
violence.

> Jeeze, guys!
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Tom
e - 21 Oct 2004 17:58 GMT
>Jeeze, guys!
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Tom

beaver pizza, tom?
Maiesm72 - 21 Oct 2004 20:26 GMT
>beaver pizza, tom?

Tongue in cheek reference to two vile, violent and profane morons who used to
do battle here.

Long gone and good ridance.

Tom
e - 21 Oct 2004 21:00 GMT
>>beaver pizza, tom?
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Tom
same song, yesterday
same song, yseterday

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Flying Frog - 20 Oct 2004 08:33 GMT
Mad Modeller a exprimé avec précision :
> I sure wish there was some way to get rid of this parasite.
>
> Bill Banaszak, MFE

Hi Bill,

I am sometimes also a crossposter, when I announce updates of the FFSMC
on abpa and abms for example. Do I have to feel concerned with your
message? ;)

No, I'm laughing! :o) I am also tired of all these morons who flood the
NGs  with porno or pedophile messages...

Cheers

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Mad Modeller - 21 Oct 2004 04:15 GMT
> Mad Modeller a exprimé avec précision :
> > I sure wish there was some way to get rid of this parasite.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> --
> Chris

Whew! I wasn't attempting to tar all the folks who crosspost something
of worthy content.  I used 'Crossposter' in the header to try and avoid
its attention but I see it intruded here anyway.
Generally I don't see most of these porno messages until someone
responds to one but this 'thing' has no plan other than to harass
somebody here and in so doing harasses us all.
May his beard rot.

Bill Banaszak
e - 21 Oct 2004 03:58 GMT
>> Mad Modeller a exprimé avec précision :
>> > I sure wish there was some way to get rid of this parasite.
[quoted text clipped - 24 lines]
>
>Bill Banaszak
it has a couple of friends who do this for "fun". think of
how many 3rd world children could live off the resources
wasted. it's a public duty, pest control.
Flying Frog - 21 Oct 2004 08:19 GMT
Mad Modeller a couché sur son écran :

> Whew! I wasn't attempting to tar all the folks who crosspost something
> of worthy content.  I used 'Crossposter' in the header to try and avoid
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Bill Banaszak

Lol, there is no problem for me Bill ;)

The first part of my message was only humor... not the second one... I
love women, but not on the web, only real women... and especially I
hate the bastards who flood the NGs with messages for pedophile
websites! I am the dad of 5 children, and I do not tolerate the garbage
which hurt the kids!

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Mad Modeller - 22 Oct 2004 04:07 GMT
> Mad Modeller a couché sur son écran :
>
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> Site de maquettisme et de Photoscopes : http://www.ffsmc.com
> Walkarounds & Scale modelling Portal : http://www.ffsmc.com

Chris, I knew you were replying humourously.  I just took the
opportunity to let people know it wasn't the general run of cross posts
that had me irked.  In a way pedophiles and this creature have something
in common.  Parts of them have never grown up.

5 children?  Wow, that makes for a busy household. :)

Bill Banaszak, MFE
Flying Frog - 22 Oct 2004 06:29 GMT
Mad Modeller avait écrit le 22/10/2004 :

> 5 children?  Wow, that makes for a busy household. :)
>
> Bill Banaszak, MFE

Oh yes, especially during holidays ! :o)

... And holidays begin this evening...  It will be hard for Dad and Mum
! ;)

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Les Braynze - 23 Oct 2004 23:30 GMT
> this 'thing' has no plan other than to harass
> somebody here and in so doing harasses us all.
> May his beard rot.

Mad Modeller said...

> but this 'thing' has no plan other than to harass
> somebody here and in so doing harasses us all.

The "somebody" that "this thing" is harassing is a friend of yours.  The man
who is now back to posting as "e".

The reason "this thing" is harassing him is because the person who is
posting as "e" has very convincingly been shown to be at the very least a
collector of child porn and an active participant in multiple groups that
trade in that filth.  His posting history going back years was archived on
google until he himself recently had most of it removed.  This is something,
incidentally, that only the person who made the posts can accomplish.

Also, three (so far) of his ex-friends have come forward and explained how
they discovered "e"'s filthy little secret two years ago but, rather than
embroil themselves in this sort of usenet warfare where the messenger
inevitably gets painted with a broader brush than the original offender,
they simply chose to cut off all communication with this man and stop
participating in the groups that he participates in.

Two of these ex-friends are women and are now being subjected to his vitriol
and bile, including liberal use of a favorite four letter word of his that
is considered the most vile word to use to describe a woman by most decent
human beings.

The reason that some of those who continue to aggressively try to spread the
truth about this man use anonymizers is evident in his repeated insistence
that the best thing to do is "out them" (publish their real names and
addresses so they can be subjected to real harassment).  Recently  "e" got
hold of the real name of one of the people actively expressing disgust with
his behavior and is still smearing that name everywhere he goes,  making
racial and other slurs against the man, making comments about the mans
lineage and specifically attacking his mother,  posting it to many groups
and accusing that person of myriad offenses, mostly things that "e" himself
has apparently committed.

He has also been known to attack people by bombing their email addresses
with multiple vitriolic and abusive messages.  This is why anyone who dares
to speak against this man usually does so from a disposable or totally fake
address.

Notice that while condemning those who anonymize their posts, "e" himself
makes very sure that his posts are coming from a source that is, in effect,
just as anonymous as those he is criticizing.

You may make of this what you will, but for you to condemn pedophiles out of
one side of your mouths while continuing to tolerate this individual's
contributions to your chats about modeling is hypocritical to the n'th
degree.

"He never did anything to hurt me" doesn't work when it is somebody else's
abused and exploited 12 year old daughter he is lusting over, does it?
Bill Woodier - 24 Oct 2004 02:18 GMT
"Les Braynze" lez@braynze.com
wrote:

> > this 'thing' has no plan other than to harass
>> somebody here and in so doing harasses us all.
[quoted text clipped - 54 lines]
>"He never did anything to hurt me" doesn't work when it is somebody else's
>abused and exploited 12 year old daughter he is lusting over, does it?

Those are your allegations.  If you have proof of your allegations, take your
case to the authorities.  Take it to a lawyer.  Take it to your cousin "Vito"
and have his legs broken; if you want.  Take it anywhere but here; it doesn't
belong here.  

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e - 24 Oct 2004 07:48 GMT
>"Les Braynze" lez@braynze.com
>wrote:
[quoted text clipped - 69 lines]
>
>My home page:  http://www.bill-woodier.com/home.htm

this is just a gutless troll. it pulls exactly the same
trick on everyone that beats it. and everyone does.
it has lies, distortions, and stupidity.
let it die,
Bill Woodier - 24 Oct 2004 02:22 GMT
"Les Braynze" lez@braynze.com
wrote:

(rest snipped)

By the way; if you were really concerned with informing people of some threat
such as you claim, you would not have a bogus e-mail address that bounces sent
mail back.  I suspect you're just full of crap.

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WmB - 24 Oct 2004 07:13 GMT
"Les Braynze" <lez@braynze.com> wrote in message news:417adb5e$0$19263
> Two of these ex-friends are women and are now being subjected to his
> vitriol
> and bile, including liberal use of a favorite four letter word of his that
> is considered the most vile word to use to describe a woman by most decent
> human beings.

W-i-f-e?

If you have proof or a whiff of proof that anyone is into kiddie porn, turn
them in. The authorities will be obliged to look into it. Til then it's the
old innocent until proven guilty clause.

WmB
e - 24 Oct 2004 07:51 GMT
>"Les Braynze" <lez@braynze.com> wrote in message news:417adb5e$0$19263
>> Two of these ex-friends are women and are now being subjected to his
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>WmB

after 6 months of bullshit, you think they dared call
anyone? false complaints would give me some nice model money
Guy N. LaFrance - 24 Oct 2004 07:16 GMT
> You may make of this what you will, but for you to condemn pedophiles
> out of one side of your mouths while continuing to tolerate this
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> "He never did anything to hurt me" doesn't work when it is somebody else's
> abused and exploited 12 year old daughter he is lusting over, does it?

No, he *hasn't* hurt us - *you* have, by calling us hypocrites without
justification. We have only your word to go on if we are to do as you say
and condemn or ignore him. Proof must be provided, and even then the final
judgment is up to us, not you. For all we know or can tell, he is the
innocent victim of a smear campaign. You might be the villian in this, and
how are we to tell? Personally, I'd give you a lot more credibility if I
knew your real name and had something like court proceedings to look at.
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e - 24 Oct 2004 07:46 GMT
> > this 'thing' has no plan other than to harass
>> somebody here and in so doing harasses us all.
[quoted text clipped - 54 lines]
>"He never did anything to hurt me" doesn't work when it is somebody else's
>abused and exploited 12 year old daughter he is lusting over, does it?

sorry uff scum, but your pack of lies has been exposed for
what it is.
you cannot do more than slander and insinuate. you have been
publically exposed as a liar, fake and fraud. so take your
sick sh.t out of here. real human beings play here and scum
like you could never fit in.
the clown that used you morons got exposed today...get the
f.ck out and stay out.
by the way, 19, your stink comes through your socks. leave
now.
Flying Frog - 24 Oct 2004 07:49 GMT
Lol :o) "e" is like that ? Amazing, but you certainely have proof ?
Really easy to offend somebody when one is hidden behind the screen,
but if you have proofs, do not hesitate to contact authorities. If it
is not case, you are only a troller more...

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e - 24 Oct 2004 18:05 GMT
>Lol :o) "e" is like that ? Amazing, but you certainely have proof ?
>Really easy to offend somebody when one is hidden behind the screen,
>but if you have proofs, do not hesitate to contact authorities. If it
>is not case, you are only a troller more...

check out the other 20 people it has accused of the same
thing. not one is guilty. it is just a sick troll.
Flying Frog - 24 Oct 2004 18:16 GMT
e a exprimé avec précision :

>> Lol :o) "e" is like that ? Amazing, but you certainely have proof ?
>> Really easy to offend somebody when one is hidden behind the screen,
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> check out the other 20 people it has accused of the same
> thing. not one is guilty. it is just a sick troll.

Yes I saw... That's (the reason of my message. Don't worry, you're well
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e - 24 Oct 2004 18:23 GMT
>e a exprimé avec précision :
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>Yes I saw... That's (the reason of my message. Don't worry, you're well
>know here ! ;)

i wasn't worried. unlike the mp3.d group, there are adults
here who think.
one piece of advice, never spurn a fat girl.
e - 20 Oct 2004 11:39 GMT
>I sure wish there was some way to get rid of this parasite.
>
>Bill Banaszak, MFE
best way, and the thing that hurts them mist is a kill file.
i could email you mine, bill. these losers want the world to
be the sh.t they live in and they do this for fun.
Cfbush2000 - 20 Oct 2004 14:26 GMT
As long as people read, answer and discuss the posts, the cross-poster wins.
IMHO.
chuck
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Digital_Cowboy - 22 Oct 2004 19:16 GMT
> I sure wish there was some way to get rid of this parasite.
>
> Bill Banaszak, MFE

Bill,

I don't know if Mozella does it or not, but XNews can and will "kill"
crossposted msgs.

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> I don't know if Mozella does it or not, but XNews can and will "kill"
> crossposted msgs.

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