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Model Forum / General / Models / April 2005Upcoming Airshow
I believe that this upcoming weekend, there is an airshow in Louisville, KY, "Thunder Over Louisville", as part of the opening of the Kentucky Derby Festival. In the past, the air event has had a lot of WWII aircraft present. It sounds pretty exciting...though it seems that some may disagree...lol: From today's Wall Street Journal "Best of the Web": .................................. Cower to the People! ( http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050417/NEWS01/504170 503/1008/NEWS01 ) This weekend begins Thunder Over Louisville, the formal opening of the Kentucky Derby Festival, which includes a military air show and a fireworks display. The air show is upsetting some lily-livered Louisvillians, according to the Courier-Journal: A coalition of Louisville-area peace and religious groups is planning a "Silence Over Thunder" protest Saturday, objecting to the use of military aircraft in the Thunder Over Louisville air show. "It's offensive and even scary to some parts of our population," said Chris Harmer, a member of the Louisville Friends Meeting, which is one of the organizing groups. If they're really so scared, shouldn't they protest by hiding under their beds? ..................................  SignatureGreg Heilers Registered Linux user #328317 - Slackware 10.1 (2.6.10) ..... Hurewitz's Memory Principle: The chance of forgetting something is directly proportional to ..... to ........ uh .............. > This weekend begins Thunder Over Louisville, the formal opening of the > Kentucky Derby Festival, which includes a military air show and a fireworks [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > If they're really so scared, shouldn't they protest by hiding under their > beds? NIMBYS! :) perhaps you could lend them a few ear defenders, greg. :)) t. > > This weekend begins Thunder Over Louisville, the formal opening of the > > Kentucky Derby Festival, which includes a military air show and a fireworks [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > t. Back when I lived in a small town southwest of Lancaster's airport we had an ANG outfit from Harrisburg come down frequently and shoot landing approaches. The old guy across the street was sure they were picking on him and frequently called the airport to complain. Of course, I was outside taking pictures. :) Bill Banaszak, MFE > > > This weekend begins Thunder Over Louisville, the formal opening of the > > > Kentucky Derby Festival, which includes a military air show and a fireworks [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > > Bill Banaszak, MFE On a par with the a.sholes who move near an airbase because the base supports a thriving economy but then start complaining they want the noise to stop. Bill Shuey > On a par with the a.sholes who move near an airbase because the base > supports a thriving economy but then start complaining they want the > noise to stop. > > Bill Shuey We're quite familiar with the "permanent tourists" who move down here because of the pastoral settings. Then they start bitching because the pastures have a fertile aroma. Farmers also tend to get up and make noise before sunrise. Bill Banaszak, MFE You think they're bad in Lancaster! The bitching is bad enough, but when they start SUEING the farmers, I think that's just a little over-the-line. When I was still living in Lancaster just before I moved down here to TN, they passed a law in NJ that actually protected farmers there from those stupid types of lawsuits. I think every state should have a law like that. Now, how they got a law passed that protected the rights of the farmers over the "percieved" rights of the yuppies in one of the CSA (Communist States of America), I'll NEVER know... Don McIntyre Clarksville, TN > You think they're bad in Lancaster! The bitching is bad enough, but > when they start SUEING the farmers, I think that's just a little [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Don McIntyre > Clarksville, TN Just where in the Constitution is there stipulated a "right" to *not* be bothered by noise and/or smell? :o) SignatureGreg Heilers Registered Linux user #328317 - SlackWare 10.1 (2.6.10) ..... Television -- a medium. So called because it is neither rare nor well done. -- Ernie Kovacs > Just where in the Constitution is there stipulated a "right" to *not* be > bothered by noise and/or smell? It's right after the section declaring that "Every American has the right to Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness", and before the part insuring that we have a right to a Jury of our Peers. Just ask anybody, they'll tell you. KL > > Just where in the Constitution is there stipulated a "right" to *not* be > > bothered by noise and/or smell? [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > KL This whole concept is known in legal circles as 'coming to the nuisance.' It's an old concept, because it was already embedded in the common law when I went to law school, the classic case being Del Webb vs.. some cattle rancher or other, in Arizona. Basically, Del Webb did one of their earliest senior retirement communities out in the boonies where the land is cheap, right next to a feedlot. People bought the homes when the wind was blowing one way, and later discovered that the wind sometimes blew the other way, bringing with it the aroma and the flies generally attendant to feedlots. The homeowners sued Del Webb, Del Webb sued the rancher, and so on. At this remove I don't remember well how it turned out, except that, by coming to the nuisance, the rights of the 'interlopers' were significantly less strong than if the feedlot had come to them. So, no, the right not to be bothered by noise or smell is not in the Constitution, but the general doctrine of public and private nuisance has been around a lot longer than the Constitution, being firmly established in English common law, and therefore in most of the U.S. In other words, in many cases you do have a right not to be bothered by noise and smell, especially if you got there first. If you come to the nuisance, your case is much weaker. Mark Schynert Surely 'jet noise is the sound of freedom'? gaz. > I believe that this upcoming weekend, there is an airshow > in Louisville, KY, "Thunder Over Louisville", as part of the [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > > .................................. > Surely 'jet noise is the sound of freedom'? > > gaz. I never realized that Soviet jets were so quiet. Nor that Larry Ellison's very early morning pregrinations in his Gulfstream over San Jose somehow contributed to homeland security. Maybe we ought to just round up all the very noisiest obsolete jet-engined aircraft we can find and fly them back and forth over Iraq at 3000 feet until freedom breaks out. If that works, we can try it on Tom De Lay's office. Mark Schynert I used the phrase as it was a popular NATO slogan in the 80's. You remember the 80's right? When most of Europe was a soviet military camp. You have to pay the price for freedom, A bit of a racket isn't too much to ask, some people gave their lives. Anyway, if these people at the end of the runway don't like the noise why don't they just f.ck off and live somewhere else? It's not rocket science is it? >> Surely 'jet noise is the sound of freedom'? >> [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Mark Schynert > I used the phrase as it was a popular NATO slogan in the 80's. > You remember the 80's right? It was trite then and it's trite now. Freedom has nothing to do with how much noise you make, and everything to do with what you stand for. As far as people moving to the nuisance, that's their problem, and I cut them no sympathy if they can't figure out where the runways are before they move. Anyway, they can go after the realtor for failure to disclose (or the previous owners, for that matter), so it's not like they don't have a remedy. As for the sound of freedom, it's telling the bloke from TSA with the wand who wants you to take off your shoes to shove his wand up his insides to see if he can detect his own fillings, and then boarding your flight without further hassle. It's not a sound you hear in airports these days. Mark Schynert > As for the sound of freedom, it's telling the bloke from TSA with the > wand who wants you to take off your shoes to shove his wand up his [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Mark Schynert Alas, it would probably get you a lot of special attention, but I like the sentiment. Bill Banaszak, MFE |
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