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teem - 27 Jul 2005 01:35 GMT
this involves acrylic paint & arisol spray,is this made as a
product?,I really dont want get out the airbrush & buy a bottle of
primer if i dont have to.
Ray S. & Nayda Katzaman - 27 Jul 2005 03:10 GMT
To prime or not to prime, that is the question.  Why primer a model,
good question.  You would primer so the base color paint will have
something to grab on to - so to speak.  In the case of acrylics or
with any other paint, if you do not primer, you run the risk of having
the color of the plastic bleed thru on sharp edges because the base
color paint did not build up as it would on a flat surface.  So there
it is.

Ray
Austin, Texas
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> this involves acrylic paint & arisol spray,is this made as a
> product?,I really dont want get out the airbrush & buy a bottle of
> primer if i dont have to.
Greg Heilers - 27 Jul 2005 03:24 GMT
> this involves acrylic paint & arisol spray,is this made as a
> product?,I really dont want get out the airbrush & buy a bottle of
> primer if i dont have to.

Is your question, does acrylic spray exist?  Yes.

Primer.  It is always a good idea; as it gives the succeeding
color coats something to grab ahold of.  It provides "tooth", which
is far better than the bare plastic/resin/metal.  If your model is
something that will not suffer a lot of handling (being permanently affixed
to a base, for example); and it is not going to require many succeeding
color coats (and the needed masking); then you can probably get away
with *not* priming.  But, when done carefully, priming offers
so many advantages.

Many people "prime" using thinned down "Mr. Surfacer". (thins with
cheap old isopropyl alcohol).  "Mr. Surfacer" provides an excellent
"tooth", fills minor seams and imperfections, and shrinks as it dries,
so that fine details stand little chance of being obliterated.

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Arcusinoz - 27 Jul 2005 03:50 GMT
I have been painting with Acrylics, all sorts of model types,and I have
never used a primer.I was always concerned about the "obliteration"of
those fine details that make a model come to life when been fine
detailed and dry brushed.I do also wash all the parts in warm soapy
water  before assembling.
Greg Heilers - 27 Jul 2005 04:50 GMT
> I have been painting with Acrylics, all sorts of model types,and I have
> never used a primer.I was always concerned about the "obliteration"of
> those fine details that make a model come to life when been fine
> detailed and dry brushed.I do also wash all the parts in warm soapy
> water  before assembling.

That definitely helps...but when your have sweaty hands, and are a
"fumble-fingers" such as I...such paints tend to erode away just in
limited handling...lol.

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teem - 29 Jul 2005 02:45 GMT
Thanks guys for straightening me out,I have  2 vinyl models & the
directions on the one model stated stay away from enamels,I thought
they meant enamel primer,it would screw up the properties of the
vinyl.I was told by a hobby store i can use enamel primer,i'll just
spray lightly to get the ''tooth''.On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 03:50:46 GMT,

>> I have been painting with Acrylics, all sorts of model types,and I have
>> never used a primer.I was always concerned about the "obliteration"of
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>"fumble-fingers" such as I...such paints tend to erode away just in
>limited handling...lol.
Jim - 30 Jul 2005 20:07 GMT
Do you know what percentage of Mr. Surfacer to Alcohol to use?  Just ordered
some and want to give it a shot.

>> this involves acrylic paint & arisol spray,is this made as a
>> product?,I really dont want get out the airbrush & buy a bottle of
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> "tooth", fills minor seams and imperfections, and shrinks as it dries,
> so that fine details stand little chance of being obliterated.
Greg Heilers - 31 Jul 2005 01:58 GMT
> Do you know what percentage of Mr. Surfacer to Alcohol to use?  Just
> ordered some and want to give it a shot.

Probably more alcohol, ratio-wise, than you would normally use for paint...
as just about every bottle of Mr Surfacer I have had, was quite a bit
thicker than Gunze paint.  And this thickness seems to vary quite a bit.
So.....just play "Old Professor Glockenspiel" and experiment...lol.

>>> this involves acrylic paint & arisol spray,is this made as a
>>> product?,I really dont want get out the airbrush & buy a bottle of
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
>> Greg Heilers
>> Registered Linux user #328317 - SlackWare 10.1 (2.6.10)

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Milton Bell - 31 Jul 2005 02:16 GMT
Isopropyl is not the best thinner for Mr. S. If you aren't careful you will
get some nasty looking stuff that won't prime worth a hoot. For better
results, try some Mr. Color Thinner or, barring that, some lacquer thinner.

And don't think Mr. S 1000 needs a lot of thinning. I would start with a
third thinner and see what happens. It really depends on how old the Mr. S
is to start with and how thick it has become. But it's about the best easy
primer out there and is an excellent base for Alclad or other lacquer-like
paints.

MB

> From: Greg Heilers <gNOSPAMheilers@earthNOSPAMlink.net>
> Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net
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> thicker than Gunze paint.  And this thickness seems to vary quite a bit.
> So.....just play "Old Professor Glockenspiel" and experiment...lol.
 
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