What is everyone's opinion on the shortline boom in real rairoads that
really took off in the 1990's? They seem easrier to model than a
class 1 but they lack the offical railroad atmosphere that previous
Class 1 operators gave to the lines. For example, where I live,
RailAmerica now operates the former White River Division of the
Missouri Pacific in northern Arkansas.
The local traffic is ok and the empty coal trains are fine but since
the major thru freight is gone, the line seems like nothing more than
a glorified industrial siding. No more hotbox detectors next to the
tracks, no more varied power hook ups like SD40-2's, they have not run
here in 10-15 years.
The shortline is good in preserving local rail service but to a
railfan, it can be one of your worst nightmares because the variety is
gone.
Former rail stops that were important to a thru freight now are maybe
nothing more than a maintenance shed. Grass and weeds tend to grow up
more on the mainlines. Train service staff is cut to bare minimum, it
all seems like such a waste. Yards and sidings that were used to
manage traffic now just set empty.
Even the rolling stock is rusty and worn out looking, not the color
and variety that was on thru freights whick to me represented the
strenght of American business and industry. The variety of rolling
stock is also limited to mainly covered hoppers. No more auto racks,
piggy back cars, HI-Cube 80' auto parts cars, TANKTRAIN tank cars,
etc, etc..
Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
Leroy - 31 Dec 2003 04:11 GMT
Actually I prefer today's shortlines & regionals over their Class 1
counterparts. Most shortlines are friendly towards railfans who behave
accordingly. Besides you can't beat the sights, sounds and character of
older locomotives that are so common on shortlines.
Since you're in the northern Arkansas area, you should check out the A&M
sometime. Tonnage on the A&M is up, so they're pretty busy. Plus with an all
ALCO locomotive roster, kept in immaculate condition, it just doesn't get
any better than that! It's a first class operation.
Just my $0.02
> What is everyone's opinion on the shortline boom in real rairoads that
> really took off in the 1990's? They seem easrier to model than a
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> etc, etc..
> Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
Gerard Pawlowski - 31 Dec 2003 09:01 GMT
apj@ipa.net (A. Paul) wrote in message
> Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
Dear Mr. Paul,
Yes. When Conrail stopped running trains through on the Corry-
to-Meadville section of the Erie main line, this is about what happened
here. Now, Conrail was by no means a short line, but the effect was
the same. There was still the chance of an interesting sight, from
time to time. I remember solid trains of DODX flatcars carrying tanks,
for instance, but I don't know where they were headed.
When this line was taken over by the Northwest PA Rail Authority,
the freight traffic did not change much, but I have to say the variety
improved a bit. We had the NY & LE's Alco FA's! That was a neat sight.
Now this line is being operated by the Western New York &
Pennsylvania, and this strikes me as a decent company. In particular I
saw one very hopeful sign...a track maintenance crew! Now that is
some variety from the recent past. It also helps that they are running
C424's. This area is becoming an Alco paradise nowadays...
Cordially yours,
Gerard P.
Leroy - 31 Dec 2003 16:58 GMT
> apj@ipa.net (A. Paul) wrote in message
> It also helps that they are running C424's. This area is becoming an
Alco paradise nowadays...
From what I've heard the WNY&P will be getting additional Alco power in the
form of C430's (ex M&E) and a lone C630 (ex CP). It's quite possible these
new units may even be on the property already. Talk about Alco heaven!
Maycop - 31 Dec 2003 19:17 GMT
They've been in use @ Falconer NY for a few mos. still in M&E pt. but lettered
for NYWP. C630 is also @ Falconer. Check Elwood's site for pix.
Don
wiley@acme.arcres - 31 Dec 2003 16:02 GMT
I am about to start a layout, 4'x16' and will be modeling the Credit Valley
Railroad that ran from Toronto to Orangeville and branchline to Elora. All
in south central Ontario.
It was in existence from 1871-1891, then it was bought by CP.
Steam locomotives will either be 4-4-0 (for passenger service), 2-6-0 or
4-6-0 (for freight service)
Rolling stock will consist of 34' Overton class cars for Passenger Service.
and assorted "old tyme" freight cars... 36' Box, Stock and Reefers. 26' Tank
and 30' flat and gondola cars. Also small wooden cabooses.
Buildings I hope to scratch build, my father used to do this, so I watched
when I was younger. Buildings will be similar to the Campbell Scale
Minatures line.
Right now though I am in the planning stage, probably won't start laying
tracks until April or May.
Kennedy (no longer not on The Haggis!) - 31 Dec 2003 21:07 GMT
> What is everyone's opinion on the shortline boom in real rairoads that
> really took off in the 1990's? They seem easrier to model than a
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> etc, etc..
> Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
Modelling a shortline can be fairly rewarding. If you're doing a specific
prototype, it'll give you things to model that don't quite look as pristine
as the BNSF racetrack, for example. On the Protolance or Freelance side,
you can work up your layout and put in all kinds of oddball motive power
(presuming your shortline is large enough. For somebody who's limited in
space and can't put together a representation of a Class I and/or can't
decide on what to model, a nice, shortline might be the ticket.
Also, a shortline gives you a lot of operational potential, since most
every train is a local and there's switching everywhere along the way....
Kennedy

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