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Beowulf - 05 Mar 2004 18:08 GMT
Salvé
A question  regarding  railway journey's here,  Assuming one travelled from
the very north of north america (USA or Canada)  how far South can one go
travelling only by Rail? where would the journey start  ( Alaska or
Newfoundland and what town....) and where would it end and on what railways
(railroads) would one travel? travelling by taxi for the purposes of
changing Railroad lines is ok if it's in th same town.

Beowulf
Brian Paul Ehni - 05 Mar 2004 18:52 GMT
On 3/5/04 12:08 PM, in article Oo32c.28413$zm5.10084@nntpserver.swip.net,

> Salvé
> A question  regarding  railway journey's here,  Assuming one travelled from
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Beowulf

Offhand, I'd say Churchill on Hudson's Bay to someplace in Mexico. IIRC,
Alaska isn't connected by rail to the lower 48, and to Canada only by a
narrow gauge line that dead-ends.

Now, If you include barge traffic, the Alaska RR can be added.
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JCunington - 05 Mar 2004 22:04 GMT
>Offhand, I'd say Churchill on Hudson's Bay to someplace in Mexico. IIRC,
>Alaska isn't connected by rail to the lower 48, and to Canada only by a
>narrow gauge line that dead-ends.

The Alaska RR runs from Anchorage to Fairbanks (?). No connection to the south
by rail.

The White Pass & Yukon, when I was there in 1992, said it was no longer a
common carrier and was only a tourist line. It used to connect Skagway to
Dawson, Yukon. But again, there's no rail connection to the south.

Churchill is the farthest north I'm aware of without digging.

Jay
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Two23 - 06 Mar 2004 15:13 GMT
<<Churchill is the farthest north I'm aware of without digging.

Wife & I have taken the Churchill train several times since we are avid
photographers.  It's the best rail trip in North America.  There used to be two
different companies running passenger service.  We always took the private
company's train--I think it was Northland.  They only haul grain now.  There is
still VIA rail that goes up there.  Not sure what the south end of a connection
would be.  There are active railroads all the way down to the ends of Argentina
but I don't know if they are connected.  Wife & I have the Rossia #1 on our "to
do" list.  That's also known as the "Trans Siberian Express."  My oldeset son
started learning Russian last Fall.

Kent in SD
Rick Jones - 07 Mar 2004 21:50 GMT
>>Offhand, I'd say Churchill on Hudson's Bay to someplace in Mexico. IIRC,
>>Alaska isn't connected by rail to the lower 48, and to Canada only by a
>>narrow gauge line that dead-ends.
>
> The Alaska RR runs from Anchorage to Fairbanks (?). No connection to the south
> by rail.

   He did question whether connections by barge might be allowed. The
Alaska RR does have a car float operation from Seattle to Whittier.
http://www.akrr.com/freight/alaska_rail_marine.html Imagine seeing
Conrail boxcars in Anchorage.  :-{)

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Beowulf - 07 Mar 2004 22:54 GMT
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> Offhand, I'd say Churchill on Hudson's Bay to someplace in Mexico. IIRC,
> Alaska isn't connected by rail to the lower 48, and to Canada only by a
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> --
> Brian Ehni

Barge away dear boy, : )
beowulf
Jim Holland - 05 Mar 2004 22:40 GMT
Good Morning!

> Beowulf wrote:

> Assuming one travelled from the very north of north america
> (USA or Canada)  how far South can one go travelling only
> by Rail? .... travelling by taxi for the purposes of
> changing Railroad lines is ok if it's in th same town.

    Forget the exact details but it was possible to
travel a rather good distance in the 1920s by Interurban--
TrolleyCar from New York well into Wisconsin  --  But
M-a-n-y  changes.

    Believe a book on this subject was published.

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Steve Caple - 05 Mar 2004 23:40 GMT
>     Forget the exact details but it was possible to
> travel a rather good distance in the 1920s by Interurban--
> TrolleyCar from New York well into Wisconsin  --  But
> M-a-n-y  changes.

My mother took me to visit a friend of hers in Chicago and see
the Railroad Fair in 1951  -  we left Decatur on the Illinois
Terminal RR and transferred to the Roarin' Elgin.  Not a super
long trip, but decidedly better than taking the 'Hound.

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Mark Newton - 06 Mar 2004 20:05 GMT
> My mother took me to visit a friend of hers in Chicago and see the
> Railroad Fair in 1951  -  we left Decatur on the Illinois Terminal RR
> and transferred to the Roarin' Elgin.  Not a super long trip, but
> decidedly better than taking the 'Hound.

I'm envious! That would have been a great trip...
Steve Caple - 07 Mar 2004 00:33 GMT
> I'm envious! That would have been a great trip...

I remember some Santa Fe stuff the most:  a Navajo sand
painting crew, and what I think was a Blue Goose Hudson,
although I don't think they were on regular runs at that time.    
Maybe they ran it in for show, or it might have been some
other road's streamlined steam engine.  I was not particularly
conversant in steam loco lore at the age of 8:  I remember
taking the Wabash from Decatur to Peru around that time and
being surprised by one of their semi-streamlined class P-1
Hudsons with elephant ear smoke deflectors.  Quite a sight in
that Wabash blue.

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Brian Paul Ehni - 07 Mar 2004 01:28 GMT
On 3/6/04 6:33 PM, in article
MPG.1ab40d3d1321a51f989e2e@netnews.comcast.net, "Steve Caple"
<stevecaple@commoncast.net> wrote:

>> I'm envious! That would have been a great trip...
>
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> Hudsons with elephant ear smoke deflectors.  Quite a sight in
> that Wabash blue.

Not just "a" Blue Goose Hudson; it would have been "the", as ATSF had only
one.
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Brian Paul Ehni - 06 Mar 2004 05:43 GMT
On 3/5/04 4:40 PM, in article 40490212.74CFA171@pacbell.net, "Jim Holland"
<PghPCC@pacbell.net> wrote:

> Good Morning!
>
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>
> Believe a book on this subject was published.

And also back in the day, you could travel from the Great Lakes deep into
Texas via narrow gauge!
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Babboo - 05 Mar 2004 23:56 GMT
> Salvé
>  A question  regarding  railway journey's here,  Assuming one travelled from
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Beowulf

A friend of mine was trying to get hired by a company that was working
towards the early stages of setting up a rail connection across the Bering
Straits to Russia via British Columbia, theYukon and Alaska.

Personally, I have big doubts this is possible with current technologies, so
I am happy they didn't hire her.  I have the idea it was all a big scam.

But on the off chance they ever are successful, there is a new longest
journey.  :)

Babboo
John Wood - 06 Mar 2004 03:41 GMT
>>Salvé
>> A question  regarding  railway journey's here,  Assuming one travelled
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>
> Babboo

New York to London in how many years...?

:-)

John
Gene - 06 Mar 2004 05:49 GMT
> A friend of mine was trying to get hired by a company that was working
> towards the early stages of setting up a rail connection across the Bering
> Straits to Russia via British Columbia, theYukon and Alaska.

Wow...if they did it you could go from Halifax all the way to Moscow by
train....that would be some trip
 
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