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Larry Blanchard - 07 Mar 2004 03:06 GMT
I went to the GATS show in Spokane WA today.  What a letdown!  
The local clubs put on two swap meet/shows a year and each has
at least twice as much stuff as GATS did.  At better prices,
too.

I don't know why GATS can't attract the tables.   They must
charge too much.

So if anyone from Spokane was planning on going tomorrow, don't!

Rumor has it that there will be no GATS in either Spokane or
Boise next year.  No great loss.

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Jim McLaughlin - 07 Mar 2004 03:09 GMT
Same thing in Portland three weeks ago.   Just crap at the GATS shows.

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> I went to the GATS show in Spokane WA today.  What a letdown!
> The local clubs put on two swap meet/shows a year and each has
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> Rumor has it that there will be no GATS in either Spokane or
> Boise next year.  No great loss.
lars - 07 Mar 2004 03:13 GMT
> I went to the GATS show in Spokane WA today.  What a letdown!
> The local clubs put on two swap meet/shows a year and each has
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> Rumor has it that there will be no GATS in either Spokane or
> Boise next year.  No great loss.

GATS has made 2 changes that hurt it as of this year:

1)   Increased table price, of course.

2) Stopped giving prizes for layouts.  Only a flat fee that is a drop in the
bucket compared to what the layouts COULD have gotten.  Our layout here
regularly got 300-400 a show.  they are talking like 100 now... no way we
would put all the effort for just 100.

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Railfan - 07 Mar 2004 11:39 GMT
> 1)   Increased table price, of course.

I've never been to a GATS show, live too far away from any - what is the
table price?  Just Curious.

> 2) Stopped giving prizes for layouts.  Only a flat fee that is a drop in the
> bucket compared to what the layouts COULD have gotten.  Our layout here
> regularly got 300-400 a show.  they are talking like 100 now... no way we
> would put all the effort for just 100.

I assume you mean $100.00?   Is this a "prize" or an appearance fee?
Again, just curious as I had never heard of what such commercial shows
would pay for club layouts to attend.  Geese, it costs our club more
than that to rent a truck to haul our modules around.

Thanks!

Bob Boudreau
Canada
lars - 07 Mar 2004 15:33 GMT
>> 1)   Increased table price, of course.
>
> I've never been to a GATS show, live too far away from any - what is
> the table price?  Just Curious.

Last actual number I heard it was $100 a table, but that was a few years ago
I think.

>> 2) Stopped giving prizes for layouts.  Only a flat fee that is a
>> drop in the bucket compared to what the layouts COULD have gotten.
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> would pay for club layouts to attend.  Geese, it costs our club more
> than that to rent a truck to haul our modules around.

They used to have a prize system for the layouts, comparing them.   They now
are going to an apearance fee.  Without the higher prize, what is the
incentive to bring in more of our modules to make a better showing layout.
GATS needs to reconsider as the layouts are what helps draw people to the
shows.
Joe Ellis - 07 Mar 2004 16:52 GMT
>>> 1)   Increased table price, of course.
>>
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>Last actual number I heard it was $100 a table, but that was a few years ago
>I think.

><<snip>>

>They used to have a prize system for the layouts, comparing them.   They now
>are going to an apearance fee.  Without the higher prize, what is the
>incentive to bring in more of our modules to make a better showing layout.
>GATS needs to reconsider as the layouts are what helps draw people to the
>shows.

You know, they DO have a web site where all this information is freely
available... no guessing required
Mark Mathu - 07 Mar 2004 17:11 GMT
> You know, they DO have a web site where all this information is freely
> available... no guessing required

It's more fun to post innuendos and incorrect information.
http://www.greatamericantrainshow.com/exhibitor/gazette/
Mark Mathu - 07 Mar 2004 17:06 GMT
>>> 1)   Increased table price, of course.
>>
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> Last actual number I heard it was $100 a table, but that was a few years ago
> I think.

A standard 8' x 30" table for a 2004 show is $65, THE SAME PRICE as in 2003.
Jon Miller - 07 Mar 2004 16:16 GMT
>1)   Increased table price, of course.
 2) Stopped giving prizes for layouts.<

   And GATS is owned by?
Mark Mathu - 07 Mar 2004 17:06 GMT
>     And GATS is owned by?

GATS Limited.
Rick Jones - 07 Mar 2004 22:04 GMT
> I went to the GATS show in Spokane WA today.  What a letdown!  
> The local clubs put on two swap meet/shows a year and each has
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> I don't know why GATS can't attract the tables.   They must
> charge too much.

   Come to Houston in 2 weeks. The San Jacinto Model RR Club is
sponsoring a show at the Humble Civic Center. At the meeting last week
they said all of the dealers tables are sold out.
http://www.trains.com/community/events/event-info.asp?eventid=4631

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