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DullCoting HobbyCal Decals???

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Frank Eva - 07 Mar 2004 21:02 GMT
I've given up on the clear decal material by VitaCal - tried bright yellow
and bright green because my printer can't print white, and the  colors
simply disappear on a Floquil Engine Black background. So, I'm using "white"
decals and they turn out very nice, but I tried to DullCote them and the
background turned gray! Should I have let the fresh coat of Engine Black dry
longer before applying the decals and the DullCote, or am I doing something
else wrong?
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David J. Starr - 07 Mar 2004 22:21 GMT
> I've given up on the clear decal material by VitaCal - tried bright yellow
> and bright green because my printer can't print white, and the  colors
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Frank Eva
> http://www.trainweb.org/digitalrailroader/

Hmm,  
  I only use "ready to run" decals (Microscale, Champ (RIP) and such).
So I don't know much about print-your-own technology.  But, I always let
the paint dry at least over night and better for a couple a days before
decalling.  I've never experienced any trouble using Dull Cote over
decals.  I use a decal setting solution (Solvaset) to get the little
devils to snug down, and then let the decal dry overnight (or longer)
before Dull Coting.
 I have considered printing my own decals, but my printer is just an
old HP inkjet that doesn't do white either, so I haven't pursued the
matter.

David J. Starr
Railfan - 07 Mar 2004 22:54 GMT
> > I've given up on the clear decal material by VitaCal - tried bright yellow
> > and bright green because my printer can't print white, and the  colors
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> > longer before applying the decals and the DullCote, or am I doing something
> > else wrong?

I've been going through my past issues of "Narrow Gauge & Shortline
Gazette" and I read a comment on photos taken on George Sellios'
layout.  It says George achieved the nice flat gray color on the roofs
of his structures by painting them with Floquil paint and before the
paint dries, he sprays them with Dullcoat.  This turns the Dullcoat
frosty, giving the gray color you observed.  So it would be best to let
the paint dry for several days.  My test to see if paint is dry is to
smell it - if there is any smell at all, then it isn't dry.

Good luck!

Bob Boudreau
Canada
Frank Eva - 07 Mar 2004 23:15 GMT
"Railfan" <"arailfan"@ NO SPAM post.com> wrote in message
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> frosty, giving the gray color you observed.  So it would be best to let
> the paint dry for several days.  My test to see if paint is dry is to
> smell it - if there is any smell at all, then it isn't dry.

Thanks for the tip!

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Gordon Smith - 08 Mar 2004 00:16 GMT
Floquil paint is flat. Decals need a gloss surface to adhere to. Are you
applying a coat of gloss before decaling? You may be getting whats called
silvering, from the decals not adhering to the paint.

Gordon

> I've given up on the clear decal material by VitaCal - tried bright yellow
> and bright green because my printer can't print white, and the  colors
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Frank Eva
> http://www.trainweb.org/digitalrailroader/
 
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