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[HO] Lumber doors

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Mark Mathu - 15 May 2004 05:28 GMT
Does anyone make a detail part for lumber doors, as used on the ends of some
steam-era boxcars?
Bruce Favinger - 15 May 2004 08:49 GMT
Mark,

AAR Boxcar End with Lumber Door

Stan Rydarowicz  165 Manchester Avenue, Youngstown, Ohio 44509

For cars ends maybe these would work. As far as just the detail parts I
don't know. A good site to find parts and information for steam era freight
cars is  http://steamfreightcars.com   maybe you can find somthing there.
Bruce

> Does anyone make a detail part for lumber doors, as used on the ends of some
> steam-era boxcars?
Mark Mathu - 18 May 2004 04:17 GMT
> AAR Boxcar End with Lumber Door
> Stan Rydarowicz  165 Manchester Avenue, Youngstown, Ohio 44509
> For cars ends maybe these would work. As far as just the detail parts I
> don't know.

Thanks, Bruce.  I've seen the information on Stan's boxcar ends at
http://www.steamfreightcars.com, although I haven't seen this product in
person.

I am hoping that there is some manufacturer not listed in the Walthers
catalog that makes individual lumber door detail parts.

What I'm attempting to do is add a lumber door to the end of an Accurail car
with wood ends (which is at best a fair match for the prototype I'm
modeling), so I'm not sure if it is worth buying an entire steel boxcar end,
just to cut out a detail part that would at best be a close match, to use on
an $11 boxcar kit.

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"I started out with nothing and I still have most of it."

Mark Newton - 19 May 2004 06:26 GMT
> I am hoping that there is some manufacturer not listed in the
> Walthers catalog that makes individual lumber door detail parts.

Mark, I don't know if you received my post regarding lumber doors.
Grandt Line make a detail set for a D&RGW narrow gauge boxcar, which
includes a lumber door. It almost identical to those used on older
standard gauge single sheath cars, so it may be useful to you. It is
part #300-5001.
Mark Mathu - 03 Jun 2004 03:57 GMT
> What I'm attempting to do is add a lumber door to the end of an Accurail car
> with wood ends (which is at best a fair match for the prototype I'm
> modeling), so I'm not sure if it is worth buying an entire steel boxcar end,
> just to cut out a detail part that would at best be a close match, to use on
> an $11 boxcar kit.

Here's what I did to add a simple lumber door to the end of my
Accurail model:
http://www.greenbayroute.com/gbw6072end.jpg

I fabricated the lumber door on the "A" end from styrene 1x12, 2x8
(scale 1'-2" long) and a short piece of 0.060" angle, as shown:
http://www.greenbayroute.com/lumberdoor.gif
In hindsight I wish I had used a 4x8 instead of a 2x8 for the door.
The door would stand out as far as the end braces and be a little
more obvious.

I replaced the model's grab irons and handrails with wire
replacements, and cut the underside of the fishbelly underframe to be
straight and added a new bottom flange.  The wood grain was brought
out with a wash of India ink and alcohol, and the car was weathered
with Ceramcoat acrylics applied with an airbrush.  I added paper tags
to the car doors using a piece of a phone book page (as described in
the July '04 Model Railroader magazine) and finished the model with
Intermountain 33" wheels and Kadee #58 couplers.

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Mark Mathu
The Green Bay Route: http://www.greenbayroute.com/
Mark Newton - 03 Jun 2004 09:01 GMT
> Here's what I did to add a simple lumber door to the end of my
> Accurail model: http://www.greenbayroute.com/gbw6072end.jpg

A very nice looking car, Mark. And you overcame the problem with the
warped sides, obviously. Thanks for posting.

Mark.
Mark Mathu - 03 Jun 2004 09:22 GMT
> And you overcame the problem with the warped sides, obviously.

I ended up wedging a piece of pink foam insulation into the car body
(permanently) to pry the sides apart just before I inserted the floor into
the body.

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The Green Bay Route: http://www.greenbayroute.com/
"I started out with nothing and I still have most of it."

dsq@erinet.com - 16 May 2004 20:34 GMT
In the steam era, generally the box cars with end doors were special cars for
automobiles.
Box cars for stick lumber were loaded and unloaded one stick at a time. This was
a time before fork lift loading and unloading as it is today with center beam
and general flat cars.

Dave Decker

> Does anyone make a detail part for lumber doors, as used on the ends of some
> steam-era boxcars?
Jeff Sc. - 16 May 2004 21:16 GMT
>In the steam era, generally the box cars with end doors were special cars for
>automobiles.
>Box cars for stick lumber were loaded and unloaded one stick at a time. This was
>a time before fork lift loading and unloading as it is today with center beam
>and general flat cars.

Lumber doors are small doors, more like a window, on the ends of the
cars to allow long sticks that would otherwise be too unwieldy to go
through the side door, to be loaded in a standard boxcar.

Scroll down abould halfway down this page:

http://users.foxvalley.net/~railsunl/Models/milwboxcars.html

and look high up on the end.

Jeff Sc.
No Party Affiliation, Ga.

Don't bother to reply via email...I've been JoeJobbed.
dsq@erinet.com - 17 May 2004 00:15 GMT
Thank you Jeff

Dave Decker

> Lumber doors are small doors, more like a window, on the ends of the
> cars to allow long sticks that would otherwise be too unwieldy to go
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Don't bother to reply via email...I've been JoeJobbed.
dsq@erinet.com - 17 May 2004 00:15 GMT
Thank you Jeff

Dave Decker

> Lumber doors are small doors, more like a window, on the ends of the
> cars to allow long sticks that would otherwise be too unwieldy to go
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Don't bother to reply via email...I've been JoeJobbed.
 
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