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Model Forum / General / Railroads / June 2004Mark Newton & Terry Flynn - why don't you just have a fist fight ?
There seem to be many threads here on r.m.r where they seem to just going at it. Why can't adults just get along here. This group should be about model railroading and full of constant bickering between people. Just bite your tongue or sit on your hands - I just wish you behaved like intelligent human beings ! I used to think that if everyone had a hobby the world would be a more peaceful place. Well, if I had to judge based on this newsgroup - that is so not-true ! Take your stupid bickering off line ! I would say - go find a hobby - but you both already have one, dammit !! Sorry for singling you two out - there are many others, but the recent posts I read were all of Mark bitching out Terry. Peteski By and large, Mark Newton is the larger jerk. In one of their flame fests about two months ago I asked them both by private E mail to stop. I received back some of the most nasty, insulting, and disgusting E mail I have ever seen from Mark Newton. Insults as to nationality (US); ethnicity (Irish); alleged sexual orientation and other crapola. Newton is a sick, sick, puppy. No reply from Flynn. Newton earned a spot in my permanent kill file for both E mail and News. I expect you will receive similar treatment from Newton. Good luck.  SignatureJim McLaughlin Please don't just hit the reply key. Remove the obvious from the address to reply. *************************************************************************** > There seem to be many threads here on r.m.r where they seem to > just going at it. [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Peteski > By and large, Mark Newton is the larger jerk. In one of their >flame fests about two months ago I asked them both by private E mail to >stop. On the other hand check Mark's positive contribution to the thread on the 2-10-10-2s. On topic he makes great contributions. Keith Make friends in the hobby. Visit <http://www.grovenor.dsl.pipex.com/> Garratt photos for the big steam lovers. I have Newton blocked from all news and mail. I have no interest in checking or reading anything he posts. The only thing I might have an interest in reading about Newton would be his obituary. I have noticed some very informative items from Dan Mitchell in that thread. Written in a friendly, gentlemanly style that of which Newton is incapable. SignatureJim McLaughlin Please don't just hit the reply key. Remove the obvious from the address to reply. *************************************************************************** > > > By and large, Mark Newton is the larger jerk. In one of their [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Visit <http://www.grovenor.dsl.pipex.com/> > Garratt photos for the big steam lovers. > I have Newton blocked from all news and mail. I have no interest in > checking or reading anything he posts. If that is the case, why complain about my posting here? If, as you claim, you have me blocked, then you couldn't possibly be affected by anything I post. >> By and large, Mark Newton is the larger jerk. In one of their flame >> fests about two months ago I asked them both by private E mail to >> stop. > On the other hand check Mark's positive contribution to the thread on > the 2-10-10-2s. On topic he makes great contributions. [sarcasm] Unfortunately, I just can't compete with Jim when it comes to making informative, knowledgeable, on-topic posts. Just look at his recent efforts - brimming with railroad/modelling content.[/sarcasm] Jim Sick or not they both contribute at lot. I thought you PLONKED them anyway. You sure have been grouchy lately. It seems like all we see from you anymore is reprimands, demerits and then PLONK. Bruce > By and large, Mark Newton is the larger jerk. In one of their > flame fests about two months ago I asked them both by private E mail to [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > Please don't just hit the reply key. > Remove the obvious from the address to reply. *************************************************************************** > > There seem to be many threads here on r.m.r where they seem to > > just going at it. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > > > > Peteski > By and large, Mark Newton is the larger jerk. In one of their flame > fests about two months ago I asked them both by private E mail to [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > (US); ethnicity (Irish); alleged sexual orientation and other > crapola. This is news to me - what do you allege I posted to you? > I received back some of the most nasty, insulting, and disgusting E mail > I have ever seen from Mark Newton. Insults as to nationality (US); > ethnicity (Irish); alleged sexual orientation and other crapola. Newton is > a sick, sick, puppy. Not that Mark Newton necessarily could not do that, are you sure it was from the _real_ Mark and not from Marty/jepperson/Sir Spank under one of his many false flags? SignatureSteve Caple >> I received back some of the most nasty, insulting, and disgusting E mail >> I have ever seen from Mark Newton. Insults as to nationality (US); [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > sure it was from the _real_ Mark and not from > Marty/jepperson/Sir Spank under one of his many false flags? I'd like to know how I'm supposed to have known about his so-called ehtnicity? > I'd like to know how I'm supposed to have known about > his so-called ehtnicity? Well, "Flynn" could be taken as a hint, and when a perv like M/J/SS is looking for something to rag about, and the target isn't non-white (M/J/SS's favorite), I suppose in his (M/J/SS) tiny fevered mind it makes sense to rag on Flynn for being Irish. Of course, only idiots, old Ku Kluxers, and Back Bay Saxons take Irish heritage as a negative, and anyway there's enough reason to rag on Terry for being, well, Flynn. SignatureSteve Caple >> I'd like to know how I'm supposed to have known about his so-called >> ehtnicity? [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Irish heritage as a negative, and anyway there's enough reason to rag > on Terry for being, well, Flynn. I think it might be this Jim McLaughlin's own ethnicity that he claims I slurred. Either way, I don't have any problems with the Irish. My maternal grandmother was from Belfast, and my wife's father was from a little place near Dublin. I've been to both, and had a ball! Yes, it was the "real" Newton. SignatureJim McLaughlin Please don't just hit the reply key. Remove the obvious from the address to reply. *************************************************************************** > > I received back some of the most nasty, insulting, and disgusting E mail > > I have ever seen from Mark Newton. Insults as to nationality (US); [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > sure it was from the _real_ Mark and not from > Marty/jepperson/Sir Spank under one of his many false flags? > Yes, it was the "real" Newton. So what do you claim I wrote in my alledged post? If the opportunity presented itself, I would happily punch him on the nose. Now that I've answered your question, Pete Ski, I have one for you. What do you contribute to the newsgroup? > If the opportunity presented itself, I would happily punch him on the nose. > > Now that I've answered your question, Pete Ski, I have one for you. > > What do you contribute to the newsgroup? Well Mark, I DON'T contribute flames, trolling, jabs at other people and constant replies to off-topic discusions. I usually try to stay on-topic within threads. As for my contributions, you can go to http://groups.google.com and search for "Peteski". You should find me going back to 1997 or 1998. I'm sure you know how to do this. I took a break for few years and when I cam back the signal/noise ratio is really pittyful thanks to people like you. I'm not trying to play a moderator here. I'm just getting so sick of all the crap I see on the UseNet newsgroups ! If you have personal issues - take it off-line. If you have political issues - take them to the appropriate group ! There is no need for this type of stuff here. I can now see why many good modelers and posters have moved on to moderated modeling groups. It is really too bad. Peteski > I'm not trying to play a moderator here. I'm just getting so sick of all the > crap I see on the UseNet newsgroups ! If you have personal issues - take > it off-line. If you have political issues - take them to the appropriate > group ! There is no need for this type of stuff here. Pete Ski, when you demand that others post according to your dicates, you ARE trying to play moderator. The simple solution is to either killfile those who offend you, or simply not read those threads that are obviously OT. When you see a TV program that offends you, do you switch the TV off, or watch it throughout and then complain to the broadcaster afterwards? > I can now see why many good modelers and posters have moved on to moderated > modeling groups. If you are unhappy with r.m.r, perhaps it is time for you to do likewise. > > I'm not trying to play a moderator here. I'm just getting so sick of all the > > crap I see on the UseNet newsgroups ! If you have personal issues - take [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Pete Ski, when you demand that others post according to your dicates, > you ARE trying to play moderator. No Mark, you are wrong. He is trying to play Dictator. > The simple solution is to either > killfile those who offend you, or simply not read those threads that are > obviously OT. When you see a TV program that offends you, do you switch > the TV off, or watch it throughout and then complain to the broadcaster > afterwards? He would, but the flashing 12:00 on his VCR keeps distracting him. > > I can now see why many good modelers and posters have moved on to moderated > > modeling groups. > > If you are unhappy with r.m.r, perhaps it is time for you to do likewise. I do both, I have tried many forums. The best two are RR-Line.com and The-Gauge.com. Most of the others are specialized. SignatureWill N Scale - Credit Valley Railway www.muskokacomputes.com/CVR_Home.htm >> Pete Ski, when you demand that others post according to your >> dicates, you ARE trying to play moderator. > > No Mark, you are wrong. He is trying to play Dictator. Yeah, that too. Funny how it's nearly always the lurkers who complain the most about OT posts and "signal-to-noise ratio", or whatever it was that bloke was jabbering about. Funny, too, how they'll do it themselves when it suits them. >> The simple solution is to either killfile those who offend you, or >> simply not read those threads that are obviously OT. When you see a >> TV program that offends you, do you switch the TV off, or watch it >> throughout and then complain to the broadcaster afterwards? > He would, but the flashing 12:00 on his VCR keeps distracting him. LOL! Unkind! :-) >> If you are unhappy with r.m.r, perhaps it is time for you to do >> likewise. >> > I do both, I have tried many forums. The best two are RR-Line.com and > The-Gauge.com. Most of the others are specialized. I belong to a number of MR-related Yahoo groups, for precisely that reason - they are quite specialised. But, as interesting as they are, they can't compare with the cut and thrust of r.m.r! > I belong to a number of MR-related Yahoo groups, for precisely that > reason - they are quite specialised. But, as interesting as they are, > they can't compare with the cut and thrust of r.m.r! Too true, the others have far more information. r.m.r is just plaine fun. the verbal thrust and parry is enjoyable. SignatureWill N Scale - Credit Valley Railway www.muskokacomputes.com/CVR_Home.htm > > > I'm not trying to play a moderator here. I'm just getting so sick of > all the [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > I do both, I have tried many forums. The best two are RR-Line.com and > The-Gauge.com. Most of the others are specialized. I'm not going to grace your childish comments with a reply. The only thing I'll say is that I make positive and mostly on-topic contribution to r.m.r and other groups. Quantity is not important. I am not trying to play a dictator or a moderator. I just wish that some of the posters here who do seem to have half-a-brain would realize that constant bickering and taunting is not what r.m.r is for. Also, replying to flamer's and troll's emails is stupid and pointless. Isn't there some set of rules somewhere which would show what type of messages should be posted on r.m.r (to prove that it is not *ME* being a dictator) ? I'm not a frequent contributor for various reasons, but that still doesn't change the fact that signal-to-noise ratio is very poor here. It is not me - just check 100 mesage's subjects and see what the ratio is. And that is just the subject lines - doesn't include all of the OT stuff within good threads. "Slip switiches" is a prime example of such a thread. Why do we need to bicker, impeach Bush and look for WMDs in Iraq ?! This is rec.models.railroad ? Isn't it ? But idiots will prevail .... Have fun with your idiotic bickering. Maybe you guys have plenty of railroad knowledge, but also have zero social interaction knowledge. You are right - you have to live with yourselves - I don't have to. Signing off, Peteski > I'm not going to grace your childish comments with a reply. Then why did you write another 19 lines in response to our "childish" comments? > The only thing I'll say is that I make positive and mostly on-topic > contribution to r.m.r and other groups. Bully for you. > Quantity is not important. Not as important as quality, granted. But you are a typical lurker - you don't post much, yet complain when others make posts that you personally disapprove. > I am not trying to play a dictator or a moderator. I just wish that some of > the posters here who do seem to have half-a-brain would realize that constant > bickering and taunting is not what r.m.r is for. Which is the role of a moderator. However you choose to define it, you want people to post only what you regard as acceptable. > Also, replying to flamer's and troll's emails is stupid and pointless. In your opinion. It's interesting that when Jepperson was running amok here, you made no comment on <his> activities. You weren't bothered by him? > Isn't there some set of rules somewhere which would show what type of messages > should be posted on r.m.r (to prove that it is not *ME* being a dictator) ? Again, you are playing the moderator. > I'm not a frequent contributor for various reasons, but that still doesn't > change the fact that signal-to-noise ratio is very poor here. [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > Have fun with your idiotic bickering. Maybe you guys have plenty of > railroad knowledge, That we do. > but also have zero social interaction knowledge. Only in your opinion. > You are right - you have to live with yourselves - I don't have to. > > Signing off, > Peteski Ta-ta! >The simple solution is to either >killfile those who offend you, or simply not read those threads that are >obviously OT. Such as "Gorre and Daphetid"? I tried to killfile a particular offender once, but his name was too long for my filter to handle. End result is he still shows up, even though I don't want him to. Jay The Canada Goose is living proof that birds have cross-bred with cattle and rats. >> The simple solution is to either killfile those who offend you, or >> simply not read those threads that are obviously OT. > > Such as "Gorre and Daphetid"? Point taken. But that thread did reach a stage where it was obviously OT to most people. >From: jcunington@aol.comjkelm (JCunington) >I tried to killfile a particular offender once, but his name was too long for >my filter to handle. End result is he still shows up, even though I don't >want >him to. Then there's always the guys who have a habit of changing their information enough that they escape from the killfile of anyone who grew tired of their crap. Funny how one of the people suggesting use of the killfile recently did just that. I had all his garbage blocked out, only to have his posts start appearing again... > Then there's always the guys who have a habit of changing their > information enough that they escape from the killfile of anyone who > grew tired of their crap. > > Funny how one of the people suggesting use of the killfile recently > did just that. I had all his garbage blocked out, only to have his > posts start appearing again... If you're referring to me, you're wrong. I'm still using the same email account, address, ISP, and machine that I've used for ages. >From: Mark Newton mark_newtonNOSPAM@optusnet.com.au >If you're referring to me, you're wrong. I'm still using the same >email account, address, ISP, and machine that I've used for ages. La la la la ... I can't hear you... Well, OK ... obviously I can, because I'm able to see your messages, because they're not killfiled... :-) > >From: Mark Newton mark_newtonNOSPAM@optusnet.com.au > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Well, OK ... obviously I can, because I'm able to see your messages, because > they're not killfiled... :-) >>>>>>I have a great solution that beats Killfiling and everything else. Just ignore these MENTAL MIDGETS! If it even looks O.T, pass it up, DO NOT READ IT. Soon these 'things' will tire of noting that not a soul responds to their posts!!! And not even look at them! Mike > > >From: Mark Newton mark_newtonNOSPAM@optusnet.com.au > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Mike Why then were you reading this OT post, fuckwad? > Why then were you reading this OT post, f**kwad? Spanky, you gonna go to hell for that sort of language! SignatureSteve Caple > > Why then were you reading this OT post, f**kwad? > > Spanky, you gonna go to hell for that sort of language! Nope, that isn't what gets you there which shows me you know nothing about it and therefore are doomed to Hell yourself. Seriously. > > > Why then were you reading this OT post, f**kwad? > > > > Spanky, you gonna go to hell for that sort of language! > > Nope, that isn't what gets you there which shows me you know nothing > about it and therefore are doomed to Hell yourself. Seriously. You know, Marty puts me in mind of Frank Burns from the movie version of MASH. He gets down to pray for everyones soul and Hawkeye asks Duke "Have you ever caught this action before?" and Duke says not with anyone over 7 years old I haven't." I have found that it is only when you cannot mature enough to face the reailty of the world that you stick with fairy tale believes. SignatureWill N Scale - Credit Valley Railway www.muskokacomputes.com/CVR_Home.htm > > Steve Caple <stevecaple@commoncast.net> wrote in message > news:<MPG.1b29d1a4f6109da098a04f@netnews.comcast.net>... [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > I have found that it is only when you cannot mature enough to face the > reailty of the world that you stick with fairy tale believes. Oh, ok, whatever, when you are dead, you are simply dead. > Oh, ok, whatever, when you are dead, you are simply dead. Now you're starting to get it. Is it really so scary you need to make up ghost stories and fairy tales about farting around on fluffy pink clouds with harps? SignatureSteve Caple > > Oh, ok, whatever, when you are dead, you are simply dead. > > Now you're starting to get it. Is it really so scary you need > to make up ghost stories and fairy tales about farting around > on fluffy pink clouds with harps? I simply refuse to discuss this with non believers. Also, I, unlike most Christians, will not worry about your souls. > > > Oh, ok, whatever, when you are dead, you are simply dead. > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > I simply refuse to discuss this with non believers. Also, I, unlike > most Christians, will not worry about your souls. You can't have it half way there Marty, either you are a Christian or you are not. If you don't believe me, you will find out one day. SignatureWill N Scale - Credit Valley Railway www.muskokacomputes.com/CVR_Home.htm > > Steve Caple <stevecaple@commoncast.net> wrote in message > news:<MPG.1b2c651e9c1139ca98a05f@netnews.comcast.net>... [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > You can't have it half way there Marty, either you are a Christian or you > are not. If you don't believe me, you will find out one day. I am a Christian but that does not mean I have to worry about you. So let us go our separate ways. What I believe doesn't bother you and what you believe doesn't bother me. That sounds like a deal. I believe when one dies they go to Heaven or Hell. You believe when one dies they are just dead. Now that we have that figured out, on with trains. > > > Steve Caple <stevecaple@commoncast.net> wrote in message > > news:<MPG.1b2c651e9c1139ca98a05f@netnews.comcast.net>... [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > dies they are just dead. Now that we have that figured out, on with > trains. I did not say that, I said that is what I believed in my last life, this time I am more enlightened. Next time I hope to a little better off than this though. SignatureWill N Scale - Credit Valley Railway www.muskokacomputes.com/CVR_Home.htm > > <Will@Credit.Valley.Railway> wrote in message > news:<aTGwc.11429$XY6.1174902@read2.cgocable.net>... [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > time I am more enlightened. Next time I hope to a little better off than > this though. Oh, you believe in reincarnation. As I said, on with trains. > > > Steve Caple <stevecaple@commoncast.net> wrote in message > > news:<MPG.1b29d1a4f6109da098a04f@netnews.comcast.net>... [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Oh, ok, whatever, when you are dead, you are simply dead. That is what I thought the last time I was here. SignatureWill N Scale - Credit Valley Railway www.muskokacomputes.com/CVR_Home.htm > > <Will@Credit.Valley.Railway> wrote in message > news:<Rzjwc.6642$_V4.315@read1.cgocable.net>... [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > That is what I thought the last time I was here. I have to add, you tought my Heaven and Hell was crap and not facing reality, man, what do you think reincarnation is. Oh boy. > > > <Will@Credit.Valley.Railway> wrote in message > > news:<Rzjwc.6642$_V4.315@read1.cgocable.net>... [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > I have to add, you tought my Heaven and Hell was crap and not facing > reality, man, what do you think reincarnation is. Oh boy. A proven fact, I am proof of it. I remember my last time here. SignatureWill N Scale - Credit Valley Railway www.muskokacomputes.com/CVR_Home.htm > > <Will@Credit.Valley.Railway> wrote in message > news:<eiEwc.7101$_V4.5545@read1.cgocable.net>... [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > A proven fact, I am proof of it. > I remember my last time here. That's nice |
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