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Model Forum / General / Railroads / June 2004Customer service MDC Roundhouse.
I recently bought a secondhand MDC Loco kit that was missing its instructions. I e-mailed MDC last Monday (the 24th May) and the instructions arrived, gratis, this morning. (the 29th May). Postmarked the 25th, they made it to the U.K. in 4 days from Nevada. Hats off to MDC who were under no obligation to send them and a pat on the back for the U.S. Postal Service. >I recently bought a secondhand MDC Loco kit that was missing its >instructions. I e-mailed MDC last Monday (the 24th May) and the >instructions arrived, gratis, this morning. (the 29th May). Postmarked the >25th, they made it to the U.K. in 4 days from Nevada. Hats off to MDC who >were under no obligation to send them and a pat on the back for the U.S. >Postal Service. This typical of MDC. They have GREAT customer support. The others should do half as well (but they don't). Even Atlas has gotten flaky. -John Took them 4 months to ship a few cars from USA to australia, I think their service is sh.t... Everytime I mailed asking what was going on, never heard anything. > This typical of MDC. They have GREAT customer support. >The others should do half as well (but they don't). Even Atlas >has gotten flaky. > >-John > Took them 4 months to ship a few cars from USA to australia, I think > their service is sh.t... Well, I've never ordered from Oz, but from the US I'd have to agree with others - their service is great. IIRC, I posted here some time back about a set of truss rod reefers that had a couple of duplicate road numbers. They offered to take them back, refund my money and donate the cars to a modelling class, etc.. They apologized for the outdated ad on their website and had it changed in a day or two. I'm getting ready to order some more stuff from them. They've now got some modular wall sections that look interesting. Anyone had experience with these? If so, please comment here.  SignatureWhere ARE those Iraqi WMDs? On 5/29/04 11:36 AM, in article 2hrscfFf2k9vU2@uni-berlin.de, "Larry Blanchard" <lblanch@fastmail.fm> wrote: > Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs? Being used as roadside bombs, or hadn't you heard? SignatureBrian Ehni > Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs? Same place they have always been.... they are: 1. a figment of G.W.'s warped imagination. 2. a political smoke screen dreamed up by G.W. so he could "one up" his daddy. 3. Mark Newton took them to Australia, he plans to give them to Terry Flynn as a token of his affection. SignatureWill N Scale - Credit Valley Railway www.muskokacomputes.com/CVR_Home.htm On 5/29/04 8:59 PM, in article Ndbuc.8767$XY6.789425@read2.cgocable.net, >> Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs? > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > 1. a figment of G.W.'s warped imagination. Then the UN, France, Germany, and Britain (to name a very few) also have warped imaginations, since they all concurred that Iraq still had them (which, evidently, is true since one was used recently) > 2. a political smoke screen dreamed up by G.W. so he could "one up" his > daddy. This doesn't even rate comment it's so outlandish. > 3. Mark Newton took them to Australia, he plans to give them to Terry Flynn > as a token of his affection. The last could just possibly be the truth. SignatureBrian Ehni > On 5/29/04 8:59 PM, in article Ndbuc.8767$XY6.789425@read2.cgocable.net, > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > warped imaginations, since they all concurred that Iraq still had them > (which, evidently, is true since one was used recently) The DOD has shown it was from pre-Iraq War I. No marking were on it. The insurgents may not have even known it contained Sarin Gas. It was a very small amount. Mustard Gas was found last month (traces). The DOD has said that this too was old stuff from a Iraq War I stockpile. Bush's assertion to going to war was that Saddam was making new weapons and buying materials for nuclear weapons. Nothing new has been found since the war. Only old stockpiles have been found. Even Bush admits nothing has been found. If you are going to believe and support what he did you should at least believe him when he says they still haven't found anything. Charles > > 2. a political smoke screen dreamed up by G.W. so he could "one up" his > > daddy. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > > The last could just possibly be the truth. On 5/31/04 9:42 AM, in article chaswool-5D0E7E.10422431052004@syrcnyrdrs-02-ge0.nyroc.rr.com, "Charles P. Woolever" <chaswool@rochester.rr.com> wrote: >> Then the UN, France, Germany, and Britain (to name a very few) also have >> warped imaginations, since they all concurred that Iraq still had them [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > Charles The point remains: Saddam said he HAD NONE. So where did this (even pre '91) shell come from IF SADDAM HAD NONE? If he didn't have this one, what others did he not have? Chemical agent shells are not something you just stick in a corner someplace and forget where you put them (at least for western nations, Russia, and I'm sure the Chinese). The things are guarded heavily, and strict inventory controls are kept (it was these the UN asked for when Saddam said had destroyed all the WMD, but couldn't bear to part with). SignatureBrian Ehni > On 5/31/04 9:42 AM, in article > chaswool-5D0E7E.10422431052004@syrcnyrdrs-02-ge0.nyroc.rr.com, "Charles P. > Woolever" <chaswool@rochester.rr.com> wrote: C'mon guys - lighten up. This all started over my sig line. A sig line is like a bumpersticker. Do you chase down drivers with bumperstickers you don't like just to argue with them? If you don't like mine, come up with one of your own. I promise not to argue about it :-). SignatureWhere ARE those Iraqi WMDs? On 5/31/04 11:24 AM, in article 2i14crFgm3bcU1@uni-berlin.de, "Larry Blanchard" <lblanch@fastmail.fm> wrote: >> On 5/31/04 9:42 AM, in article >> chaswool-5D0E7E.10422431052004@syrcnyrdrs-02-ge0.nyroc.rr.com, "Charles P. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > If you don't like mine, come up with one of your own. I promise > not to argue about it :-). OK by me SignatureBrian Ehni "They're either in Iraq or (most likely) Syria" > The point remains: Saddam said he HAD NONE. So where did this (even pre '91) > shell come from IF SADDAM HAD NONE? If he didn't have this one, what others > did he not have? Since Sadam is under lock and key he doesn't have any WMDs. However its a good bet that possibly droves of ignorant or insane Islamic Arabs have the WMDs he didn't have and are planning to blow somebody up with them right now. If they can't blow us up with them they will blow each other with them in their tried and true, time tested Islamic way. Even the Shrub said we don't want to make them Americans we just want to make them free. We should leave so they can blow each other to smithereens with complete freedom. > Chemical agent shells are not something you just stick in a corner someplace > and forget where you put them (at least for western nations, Russia, and I'm > sure the Chinese). The things are guarded heavily, and strict inventory > controls are kept (it was these the UN asked for when Saddam said had > destroyed all the WMD, but couldn't bear to part with). I agree Brian but these people are steeped in Islam, sleep with bombs under their beds, will blow themselves up just to make a minor point and live by barbaric social rules in modern times. Being highly confused and frustrated they can't wait to ravage some seventy odd virgins in the afterlife not realizing they could get better sex from just one woman with a little experience right here on earth. They are trained to be violent vicious animals from birth like rabid coyotes and will attack anyone with anything they can put in a backpack or strap on their a.s. Take a bucket of gum balls and candy and scatter it out at a play ground. Watch how those kids scramble and run off with what ever they can grab. To a bunch of Islamic Arabs it the same thing with free and loose WMDs. We will never find a stock pile because thousands of pissed off, goat hoarding solders of Islam have run off with one or two each and stashed them away like squirrels with nuts. To many they may be plain old bombs just like all the neighbors have that they can use to blow up innocent people with from time to time. Besides even with careful inventory, paperwork and experts in charge it appears any government can screw up and not know what's going on. We can use our selves as an example. We forgot to equip or men with an adequate amount of the correct type of equipment so Bush asked for zillions more to buy it after we were already in a war and getting blown up. I guess no one has been keeping track of the supply of bullets lately. We can't find the WMDs that we had proof were there. Nobody higher up than sergeants knew what was going on with the prisoners? Critical interrogations of detained people are entrusted to some girl private that came right off the farm and infantry grunts always pack along dog collars, black leather items, capes, and S&M equipment. Doesn't any one check what our guys are carrying around in there pack packs? And it looks like some nuclear material in the once Eastern Block county's went missing at some point. How did that happen with all these controls? And who knows what in the hell those Chinese are thinking? They can't even figure out if they want to be communists or capitalists and have so many people they are bound to have thousands of lunatic's on the loose over there. With the probable zillions of Chinese paper work boo boos some of which statistically must involve weapons in the proximity of a lunatic I'd say they are ripe for disaster too. Bruce > Brian Ehni > I agree Brian but these people are steeped in Islam, sleep with bombs under > their beds, will blow themselves up just to make a minor point and live by [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > may be plain old bombs just like all the neighbors have that they can use to > blow up innocent people with from time to time. At first Bruce, I looked to check the sig line to make sure this wasn't Marty in yet another format, but no, it was racism from an unexpected quarter. Should we blame the arrogance and violence of West Bank and Gaza squatters (I refuse to say "settlers") on their Jewishess, or their fundamentalism, their ignorance and their narrow mindedness? The gumball comment was particularly non-apropos: describes poor kids anywhere, anywhen. For instance, regarding barbaric social rules, Arabs aren't the only people who throw stones and brandish cudgels at women wearig shorts, and the same ultra-orthodox creeps turn around and insist their sons in religious school be excused from army service while they support expansion of "God's chosen people" to the "Promised Land". Vannunu was railroaded. [mandatory RR content] SignatureSteve Caple > For instance, regarding barbaric social rules, Arabs aren't > the only people who throw stones and brandish cudgels at women > wearig shorts, and the same ultra-orthodox creeps turn around > and insist their sons in religious school be excused from army > service while they support expansion of "God's chosen people" > to the "Promised Land". Geez, Steve, that sounds like those southern USA Baptists doesn't it? SignatureWill N Scale - Credit Valley Railway www.muskokacomputes.com/CVR_Home.htm wrote: > Geez, Steve, that sounds like those southern USA Baptists doesn't it? Shrub and his corporate energy and NeoCon handlers very specifically take advantage of some conservative Christians' tendency to unquestioningly support an expansionist Likud policy to sway those same folks to support their overall mideast policy, and their "energy policy" here at home. But hey, whadda they care, all god's chillun gonna be raptured anyway, Revelations and those born-again bodice-ripper "novels" told me so. SignatureSteve Caple On 6/1/04 8:27 PM, in article MPG.1b26cc39b557ff5398a042@netnews.comcast.net, "Steve Caple" <stevecaple@commoncast.net> wrote: > wrote: >> Geez, Steve, that sounds like those southern USA Baptists doesn't it? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > anyway, Revelations and those born-again bodice-ripper > "novels" told me so. Must be real dark and scary in there. Tell us again about the "chemtrails" and how global warming is going to cause a new ice age in our lifetime (both actual favorite topics of Art Bell). SignatureBrian Ehni > Tell us again about the "chemtrails" and how global warming is going to > cause a new ice age in our lifetime (both actual favorite topics of Art > Bell). I haven't the faintest damn idea who Art Bell is, nor the inclination to Google for what sounds like some tinfoil hat nutjob, or possibly your average Scientologist or Left Behind loving millennialist. Armageddon. Yep, ahm 'a geddin' tired of that crapture. SignatureSteve Caple > > Tell us again about the "chemtrails" and how global warming is going to > > cause a new ice age in our lifetime (both actual favorite topics of Art [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > nutjob, or possibly your average Scientologist or Left Behind > loving millennialist. Gives me great pleasure to know you are goint to burn in Hell > Armageddon. Yep, ahm 'a geddin' tired of that crapture. > > Tell us again about the "chemtrails" and how global warming is going to > > cause a new ice age in our lifetime (both actual favorite topics of Art [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Armageddon. Yep, ahm 'a geddin' tired of that crapture. When you find out your are wrong it will be one minute after you die, too late to change your eternity in HELL. Gee, my heart breaks over your future. Guess while you are burning and gnashing your teeth you can call on your AG for some help. Have a hot time, knowing you are going there is enough solice for me > > > Tell us again about the "chemtrails" and how global warming is going to > > > cause a new ice age in our lifetime (both actual favorite topics of Art [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > can call on your AG for some help. Have a hot time, knowing you are > going there is enough solice for me You actually believe that crap Marty??? SignatureWill N Scale - Credit Valley Railway www.muskokacomputes.com/CVR_Home.htm On 6/2/04 1:47 PM, in article shpvc.10311$XY6.971111@read2.cgocable.net, >> Steve Caple <stevecaple@commoncast.net> wrote in message > news:<MPG.1b2701fbc1573fbb98a044@netnews.comcast.net>... [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > You actually believe that crap Marty??? Marty believes whatever will stir up the most controversy. SignatureBrian Ehni > > You actually believe that crap Marty??? > > Marty believes whatever will stir up the most controversy. That we can agree on, Brian! SignatureSteve Caple > > > You actually believe that crap Marty??? > > > > Marty believes whatever will stir up the most controversy. > > That we can agree on, Brian! Well I agree that you always think every new post is from me. You are consumed with me your hatred is so much. I love it. You wake up thinking about me, you eat lunch thinking about me, you go to bed thinking about me, you jack off thinking about me, you screw your bitch thinking about me. Yes you are consumed. I love it, and you shall always be consumed. Hatred does that to a person. You better get to searching the net now, you never know what is out there. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA > > Steve Caple <stevecaple@commoncast.net> wrote in message > news:<MPG.1b2701fbc1573fbb98a044@netnews.comcast.net>... [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > > You actually believe that crap Marty??? I suppose you think we evolved. Funny, how no bit of almighty science has disproven any part of the Bible but actually proved a lot of it to be true. But if you choose not to believe, then that is your decision and you are entitled to it. > > > Steve Caple <stevecaple@commoncast.net> wrote in message > > news:<MPG.1b2701fbc1573fbb98a044@netnews.comcast.net>... [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > But if you choose not to believe, then that is your decision and you > are entitled to it. I give the bible no greater or lesser thought than any other piece of historical fiction. The writings of Plato and Homer carry the same degree of thought evoking philosophy. Remember, compared to the Greeks and the Romans, Christians are only one step away from atheism. SignatureWill N Scale - Credit Valley Railway www.muskokacomputes.com/CVR_Home.htm > > <Will@Credit.Valley.Railway> wrote in message > news:<shpvc.10311$XY6.971111@read2.cgocable.net>... [quoted text clipped - 36 lines] > Remember, compared to the Greeks and the Romans, Christians are only one > step away from atheism. Remember I said it was your choice, your soul, your eternity. Soley your decision. > Remember I said it was your choice, your soul, your eternity. Soley your decision. Don't worry your little head there Marty. Actually, God is only a marketing manager, the real boss is too busy to worry himself about earth, it is too small a market. BTW, I didn't believe in reincarnation the last time I was here, why would I believe in it this time. SignatureWill N Scale - Credit Valley Railway www.muskokacomputes.com/CVR_Home.htm > > Remember I said it was your choice, your soul, your eternity. Soley your > decision. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > BTW, I didn't believe in reincarnation the last time I was here, why would I > believe in it this time. Whatever Will. Rest assured I will not worry about you. Have a nice day <Snip> > Remember I said it was your choice, your soul, your eternity. Soley your >decision. "...And I'd like to give thanks for MY soul, and DADS soul, and MOMS soul, and MAGGIES soul.." - Lisa Simpson, giving Bart an evil grin after he sold his 'soul' to Milhouse for $5. Drew (Rabid, or is it avid, Simpsons fan) << Chemical agent shells are not something you just stick in a corner someplace and forget where you put them (at least for western nations, Russia, and I'm sure the Chinese). >><BR><BR> Apparently this was not true of Iraq. They were stored indiscriminately with HE rounds. Two points here, and I retired from the army as a fully qualified nuclear and chemical target analyst, so I know what I'm talking about. Point 1: The only weapons of mass destruction are nuclear or thermonuclear weapons. Chemical and biological weapons are all mass casualty weapons. There is a big difference. Point 2: The number of chemical weapons found so far support the claim of Saddam that he didn't have any more. I still remember the first time I calculated the number of rounds necessary for a succesful chemical attack, an attack that would produce 10% casulaties. The other students and I looked at each other and said "Why bother?" The number of rounds was enormous. Now, why are we discussing this on a model railroading news group? Gene ABV61-1043.001.HCB <A HREF="http://www.tckworld.com/opfoot">http://www.tckworld.com/opfoot</A> Find "Skinny Dipping and Other Stories" On the web at www.publishamerica.com or www.military-brats.com and look for "Into Joy From Sadness" soon. > The DOD has shown it was from pre-Iraq War I. No marking were on it. The > insurgents may not have even known it contained Sarin Gas. Maybe they didn't know it would go off!? Maybe they thought they were disposing of it safely? ... maybe! > Mustard Gas was found last month (traces). The DOD has said that this > too was old stuff from a Iraq War I stockpile. Was it still potent? Paul SignatureWorking the Rockie Road of the G&PX >> Where ARE those Iraqi WMDs? > > 3. Mark Newton took them to Australia, he plans to give them to Terry > Flynn as a token of his affection. LOL! But I think it would take more than a WMD to get rid of Flynn. > Took them 4 months to ship a few cars from USA to australia, I think > their service is sh.t... > > Everytime I mailed asking what was going on, never heard anything. I don't know about their Australian service, but we had a problem with one of the units at our club and they responded very fast. We got the RMA next day and the whole exchange took less than 10 days. SignatureWill N Scale - Credit Valley Railway www.muskokacomputes.com/CVR_Home.htm > This typical of MDC. They have GREAT customer support. > The others should do half as well (but they don't). Even Atlas > has gotten flaky. ...and Bachmann seems not to answer simple queries sent via their web site (e.g., "do I need an RMA to send an engine for repair?"). Anyone else have any experience with that? I'm a little reluctant to send anything to them if a channel of communication can't be established. SignatureJohn Miller Email address: domain, n4vu.com; username, jsm Surplus (FSoT): F. Besson International (800) trumpet, Bb, silver New Conn V1 double trumpet case, no logo Tektronix 465B oscilloscope > I recently bought a secondhand MDC Loco kit that was missing its > instructions. I e-mailed MDC last Monday (the 24th May) and the > instructions arrived, gratis, this morning. (the 29th May). Postmarked the > 25th, they made it to the U.K. in 4 days from Nevada. Hats off to MDC who > were under no obligation to send them and a pat on the back for the U.S. > Postal Service. And I will throw in my kudos to Campbell Scale Models. I bought a kit from my local pusher... er, dealer... which came out missing one of the cardboard pieces to put shingles on for the roof. I used an online Yellow Pages to find the phone number of their old location in Durango, CO and called them. Luckily I got through while they were still packing and moving stuff to their new location in Oregon. I explained the problem, he took my name, address and number and said they would try to locate what I needed when they started to unpack at the new shop. Yesterday I received a phone message from them saying they had found the correct box with parts for my kit, found the piece I am missing, and would be mailing it to me. Now I will hopefully be able to at least have a roof on the freight station I am assembling to go on the T-track module I'm making for the Lonestar region convention next week. At this point I realize I will be nowhere close to having a finished module so I will have to put it down as a work in progress. SignatureRick Jones Remove the Extra Dot to e-mail me The Lake Erie & Oregon Railroad http://www.geocities.com/seventysixinchesoffun/ Indication of PMS #5 - She retains more water than Lake Superior. |
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