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Who owns the tracks?

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wade-kiki - 05 Jun 2004 01:19 GMT
I just moved Garland TX and the railroad tracks pass near my house. When I
first got here I was excited because I love watching trains and I get a
great show nearly every day.

The the first train I saw was Southern Pacific so I just assumed the tracks
belonged to the SP. A few days later I saw a BNSF on those same tracks and I
noted that the bridge that crosses the road said Santa Fe. If you look at
the tracks on Mapquest, it says they belong to the Santa Fe too.

Since then I've see Kansas City Southern, Norfolk Southern, Texas
Northeastern, and DGNO (Dallas Garland). I've seen two Norfolk Southern
locomotives leading an BNSF in the same train and I've seen a Texas
Northeastern locomotive leading a Southern Pacific locomotive in a train.
I've even gotten pictures of a Southern Pacific locomotive pulling Amtrack
cars. (I'm assuming they are old ones being reconditioned or something)
Every time I hear a horn blow and I go outside and there is no telling what
is coming down the tracks.

My question is: If all these railroads use the same tracks, who pays to
maintain them and how does each railroad keep track of their trains if they
are on someone else's tracks?
NEVYEN - 05 Jun 2004 16:53 GMT
>The the first train I saw was Southern Pacific so I just assumed the tracks
>belonged to the SP. A few days later I saw a BNSF on those same tracks and I
>noted that the bridge that crosses the road said Santa Fe.

Well, if mapquest said  Santa Fe, then they probably belong to BNSF.
The reason you see all the other railroad companies engines is due to trackage
rights, power(engine) swapping/leasing,etc.
  how they keep track of engines, I don't know.
Mark Mathu - 06 Jun 2004 14:07 GMT
>    how they keep track of engines, I don't know.

... bean counters and lawyers.
Rick Jones - 05 Jun 2004 21:36 GMT
> My question is: If all these railroads use the same tracks, who pays to
> maintain them and how does each railroad keep track of their trains if they
> are on someone else's tracks?

   Why ask why? Just enjoy the variety.

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Martin Rosenfeld - 05 Jun 2004 22:37 GMT
I have a plastic figure of an adult male that measures 36 actual mm from the
bottom of his feet to his eyes. What scale would he represent?

Martin Rosenfeld
Christopher A. Lee - 05 Jun 2004 22:52 GMT
>I have a plastic figure of an adult male that measures 36 actual mm from the
>bottom of his feet to his eyes. What scale would he represent?
>
>Martin Rosenfeld

O-scale? That would be eyes at 5'8" in US O-scale (1/48). Or 5'2" in
British O-scale (7mm/ft).
Robert Heller - 06 Jun 2004 03:36 GMT
 Martin Rosenfeld <rosenfeldmj@comcast.net>,
 In a message on Sat, 05 Jun 2004 21:37:11 GMT, wrote :

MR> I have a plastic figure of an adult male that measures 36 actual mm from the
MR> bottom of his feet to his eyes. What scale would he represent?

OK, some calculations:

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bc 1.06
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scale=5
36/25.4        ;; mm to inches
1.41732
(6*12)/1.41732    ;; 6 feet (typical male height) * 12"/foot over scale size
50.80010    ;; This is 51:1, assuming a 6' male
1.41732*48    ;; assume actually 1:48 (0 scale)
68.03136    ;; the figure is 68 *scale* inches from toes to eyes
68.03136/12
5.66928        ;; or about 5' 8".

Since 0 is 1:48, I'd say this is probably an 0 scale male that is
a scale 5' 8" from toes to eyes -- this might work out to close to 6
scale feet from toes to the top of his head.

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Martin Rosenfeld - 06 Jun 2004 04:34 GMT
Thanks to both of you for helping me figure out a scale.

Martin Rosenfeld
Steve Caple - 06 Jun 2004 08:29 GMT
> What's the difference between regular people and kinky people?

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Bob May - 06 Jun 2004 00:17 GMT
Could be the D&RGW does!
Look for the MOW trucks and other things poking about and see what they are
lettered for.
Some lines are shared operations - the famous Tehachapi line in Calif. is
one of those where the SP and ATSF run.

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Paul Welsh - 06 Jun 2004 03:03 GMT
> Could be the D&RGW does!

Not likely. The D&RGW bought the SP, with the resulting railroad named
SP. Then the UP bought the SP.

In its day, the D&RGW never got close to Texas (the original poster said
he is from Garland, Texas.

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Gordon Reeder - 06 Jun 2004 05:58 GMT
>> Could be the D&RGW does!
>
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>
> Paul Welsh

Actually he said that he "Moved Garland, TX"  Where he moved it
to he did not say.  But the bigger question is how he managed to move
it in the first place.

<grinning>

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Bob May - 06 Jun 2004 17:27 GMT
I guess that if I had said that the Rutland does, the joke would have been
more obvious.

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Chris Munson - 11 Jun 2004 20:52 GMT
Though in it's day, the Great Northern DID come to Northern Texas; Wichita
Falls, specifically! (OK, caveat, I have a photo in one of my C&S books showing
this. I suppose it was some leasing deal or some sort of thing).

Chris

> > Could be the D&RGW does!
>
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> Paul Welsh
 
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