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Laser Etching Brass

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Randy Smith - 19 Jun 2004 15:53 GMT
Can anyone recommend, from personal first-hand knowledge, any company
or individual to do custom, laser etching on brass?   I have had
several dealings with companies and individuals I found on the
Internet and thus far I have not found any that I will go forward with
my project with.  I have CAD drawings ready in any format and only
need very limited run....two or three 8X10 sheets at most....but it is
highly detailed.  This combination of requirements has proven either
too daunting or undo-able to all I have contacted so far.  Thanks for
any input.
Bob May - 19 Jun 2004 22:13 GMT
Biggest problem is the production run is going to be quite expensive as
there is almost nothing but setup time with your project.  Finding a small
shop where they do that sort of stuff regularly is the best thing.
I'll also note that chemical milling may be better for you.

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Randy Smith - 20 Jun 2004 14:25 GMT
Precisely!  That's what I'mooking for and not finding!  Three places
on the Internet took a look at my etching templates and offered to do
them in hardwood but not metal.  Two others took the plans and never
returned my e-mail.   I have worked on this project for a very long
time and have made several attempts to create these locomotives using
chemical and photo etching processes to no avail.  It would appear
that laser is the only way to achieve the level of detail I desire.  I
can buy the laser machine that will do the job, they run $10K, Buy It
Now on Ebay or direct from the manufacturer.  however, an hour after I
got it and made my runs I would no longer have use for it.  I have to
believe there is someone out there that can do the work.  Thanks for
your response.

>Biggest problem is the production run is going to be quite expensive as
>there is almost nothing but setup time with your project.  Finding a small
>shop where they do that sort of stuff regularly is the best thing.
>I'll also note that chemical milling may be better for you.
Erik Olsen - 20 Jun 2004 16:08 GMT
>> Biggest problem is the production run is going to be quite expensive
>> as there is almost nothing but setup time with your project.
>> Finding a small shop where they do that sort of stuff regularly is
>> the best thing. I'll also note that chemical milling may be better
>> for you.

> Precisely!  That's what I'mooking for and not finding!  Three places
> on the Internet took a look at my etching templates and offered to do
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> believe there is someone out there that can do the work.  Thanks for
> your response.

As for chemical milling, you may have a look at
http://www.photo-etch.co.uk/. I've had Photo Etch Consultants do etching
for me several times based on my AutoCAD drawings, some of it rather
intricate work. The only errors were those that I made myselv preparing
the artwork.

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Erik Olsen
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Christopher A. Lee - 20 Jun 2004 16:32 GMT
>>> Biggest problem is the production run is going to be quite expensive
>>> as there is almost nothing but setup time with your project.
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>intricate work. The only errors were those that I made myselv preparing
>the artwork.

They do it for a lot of the British etched brass kit manufacturers.
Quality artwork produces quality kits and quality engines built from
them.
Jon Miller - 20 Jun 2004 17:32 GMT
Randy,
   I not sure that a laser (at the price range you are quoting) could etch
metal.  I have a friend that has a (10K) machine and it only does
wood/certain plastic.  If they could do metal I sure it would be in the .001
or .002 range.
   Setup is not a problem and is done quickly.  Load the software and
adjust the head.  Probably less than 15 minutes.
Eric - 22 Jun 2004 05:11 GMT
"I not sure that a laser (at the price range you are quoting) could
etch
metal.  I have a friend that has a (10K) machine and it only does
wood/certain plastic.  If they could do metal I sure it would be in
the .001
or .002 range."

I believe these lasers can etch *into* metal but they can't etch
*through* the metal. That would have to been done chemically.

Eric
Dick Ganderton - 22 Jun 2004 22:19 GMT
Laser cutting of steel for items such as frames is commonplace in model
engineering. I have a set of frames for a 5" gauge GWR Metro Tank laser
cut out of 3mm thick steel plate. The laser certainly cuts right through
the material.

For smaller scale models chemically etching brass or nickle silver sheet
is common here in the UK. There are hundreds of etched brass loco, coach
and wagon kits produced in all scale from 2mm to 10mm scales.

> "I not sure that a laser (at the price range you are quoting) could
> etch
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>
> Eric
Bob Grime - 24 Jun 2004 13:45 GMT
Randy,

I'm sure I was told some time back that laser cutting of brass is not done
due to its high reflectivity which has a detrimental effect on the laser.

Bob.
JCunington - 25 Jun 2004 03:57 GMT
>I'm sure I was told some time back that laser cutting of brass is not done
>due to its high reflectivity which has a detrimental effect on the laser.

From a quantum physical point of view, every metal absorbs light at some
wavelengths, reflects at most others. The trick is finding a laser whose
frequency matches the metal absorption frequency. But again, I'm no physics
major.

Jay
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