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Reversing Trolley with Time Delay

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Kennynovak - 21 Jun 2004 06:35 GMT
Hi all,

I'm interested in building a very small N-scale table top layout in time for
Christmas.  Basically, it will just be winter scenery with a trolley.  What I'd
like to do is have the trolley run from point A to point B, pause for 15-20
seconds, and then automatically return back to point A, pause again, and then
start over.

I'm hoping someone has already done something like this, so I'm looking for
some pointers (wiring diagrams, sensors) as to how to make the electronics all
work out.

Thanks,

Kenny
Ctyclsscs - 21 Jun 2004 13:22 GMT
You can purchase one from Dallee Electronics that will do exactly what you
want. I don't know how the price compares with building one yourself, but I've
used one of theirs for many years now without any problems. Just a thought.

www.dallee.com

Jim
Ken Rice - 21 Jun 2004 18:12 GMT
>Hi all,

>I'm interested in building a very small N-scale table top layout in time for
>Christmas.  Basically, it will just be winter scenery with a trolley. What I'd
>like to do is have the trolley run from point A to point B, pause for 15-20
>seconds, and then automatically return back to point A, pause again, and then
>start over.

>I'm hoping someone has already done something like this, so I'm looking for
>some pointers (wiring diagrams, sensors) as to how to make the electronics all
>work out.

I would like to have the same for a couple of trolley lines on my layout. The
only one I found on the Internet is here:

http://home.cogeco.ca/~rpaisley4/AutoRevCheap.html
http://home.cogeco.ca/~rpaisley4/AutoRev4.html

The second one sells for US$30 plus US$5 shipping. It has delays at both ends,
and acceleration and braking sections at each end. From the web page:

"The time that the SHUTTLE waits at each end of the track can be individually
adjusted from 30 second to more than 5 minutes. The circuit can also be
adjusted to control the acceleration, braking rates and maximum speed of the
SHUTTLE."

I tried to price the components (from Radio Shack) for the first circuit, and
got a price close to what the second one is sold for complete.

Does anyone have any experience with these circuits, or buying them from R.
Paisley?

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Mike Tennent - 22 Jun 2004 14:22 GMT
>http://home.cogeco.ca/~rpaisley4/AutoRevCheap.html
>http://home.cogeco.ca/~rpaisley4/AutoRev4.html
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>I tried to price the components (from Radio Shack) for the first circuit, and
>got a price close to what the second one is sold for complete.

Try some other online sources like mouser.com or digikey.com
Those parts should be under $10.

>Does anyone have any experience with these circuits, or buying them from R.
>Paisley?

Rob's circuits work quite well. It's hard to go wrong with him.

I also carry a unit already assembled for $29.95 plus shipping.

Mike Tennent
"IronPenguin"
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Ken Rice - 22 Jun 2004 18:37 GMT
>>http://home.cogeco.ca/~rpaisley4/AutoRevCheap.html
>>http://home.cogeco.ca/~rpaisley4/AutoRev4.html

>>The second one sells for US$30 plus US$5 shipping. It has delays at both
>>ends, and acceleration and braking sections at each end. From the web page:

>>"The time that the SHUTTLE waits at each end of the track can be individually
>>adjusted from 30 second to more than 5 minutes. The circuit can also be
>>adjusted to control the acceleration, braking rates and maximum speed of the
>>SHUTTLE."

>>I tried to price the components (from Radio Shack) for the first circuit, and
>>got a price close to what the second one is sold for complete.

>Try some other online sources like mouser.com or digikey.com
>Those parts should be under $10.

>>Does anyone have any experience with these circuits, or buying them from R.
>>Paisley?

>Rob's circuits work quite well. It's hard to go wrong with him.

>I also carry a unit already assembled for $29.95 plus shipping.

>Mike Tennent
>"IronPenguin"
>Operating Traffic Lights
>Crossbucks
>Special Effects Lighting
>http://www.ironpeng.com/ipe

Thanks for the quick feedback.

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John Haskey - 22 Jun 2004 22:00 GMT
>>Hi all,
>
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>Does anyone have any experience with these circuits, or buying them from R.
>Paisley?

I've built a circuit similiar to the 'cheap' version for the smallest
layout I ever built.  It was on a 1x4 board 30" long.  N-scale.  Bachmann
Trolley.  I didn't bother with the diodes to slow the thing down.  Built
it on perf-board from Radio  Shack.  Worked fine for it's intended use
(display).

                            ---john.
Bill - 23 Jun 2004 02:10 GMT
Kenny wrote:
I'm interested in building a very small N-scale table top layout in time
for Christmas. Basically, it will just be winter scenery with a trolley.
What I'd like to do is have the trolley run from point A to point B,
pause for 15-20 seconds, and then automatically return back to point A,
pause again, and then start over.
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Although I've not used any of his products, I'd certainly consider Mike
Tennant's Iron Pengun Electronics reversing unit. It's inexpensive and
appears to be what you'd want to use.

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Bill - 23 Jun 2004 02:11 GMT
Opps! Forgot to include the url:

http://www.ironpeng.com/ipe/auto_r.html

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LGBer0672 - 23 Jun 2004 17:30 GMT
Kenny,

   I do the same type of setup at Christmas.  I run a On3 Trolley car on a
point to point line using an Aristocraft reversing unit. Aristocraft is a "G"
scale manufacturer, but the reversing unit they sell works with any scale.
Basicly, you need to put a "gap" in one rail at each end of the track, and
solder a "diode" across the gap. The unit itself is just a timer circuit which
changes polarity at a preset time. ( this is variable depending on the length
of your track )   The trolley will run to the end of the line and stop at the
gap until the timer changes the polarity. It will then reverse & repeat the
process at the other end.   Very simple to setup, and cost around $50 on sale.

  -- Bill
Charles Kimbrough - 23 Jun 2004 18:47 GMT
Circuitron has 2 units the ar-1 800-5400 is a simple reversing unit.
The AR-2 800-5401 has adjustable delay and can be setup with stops
between ends. the AR-2 lists for 54.

> Hi all,
>
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>
> Kenny
TRAINMAN9 - 24 Jun 2004 19:26 GMT
>like to do is have the trolley run from point A to point B, pause for 15-20
>> seconds, and then automatically return back to point A, pause again, and
>then

I have some components from Pocono Mountain Electronics which I had intended to
use with an On30 trolley. If you are interested in them I'll sell them for 50%
of what I paid. Included is the reversing unit along with a special track
section that allows a switch to be connected and controls the polarity.

E-mail if interested and I'll provide more information.
 
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