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Model Forum / General / Railroads / November 2004Polar Express
Does anyone else fume over displays with a "Polar Express" theme in the supermarket? They're trying to emphasize the engineering details of a train, but they're totally oblivious to wheels in the wrong places, connecting rods going the wrong way, trucks that are trying to be archbars or possibly Andrews, but seem to be all one solid piece--the list just goes on and on. And when you try to point out the simple ways in which the artwork could have been correct, and present a true image of a steam locomotive, the most fascinating machine ever constructed, your loving significant other will burst into peals of girlish laughter. It's a travesty from every direction. "Look, at least that one has a combination lever and a reach rod..." "Come ON." Naw. I'm more concerned when a model manufacturer who is in the business of knowing still doesn't get it right. Even then its more disappointment than fume. Just remember what you saw is the work of the new digital artists who have in recent years been busy putting giant tits on everything even remotely female. Bruce > Does anyone else fume over displays with a "Polar Express" theme in > the supermarket? They're trying to emphasize the engineering details [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > "Look, at least that one has a combination lever and a reach rod..." > "Come ON." John P wrote: Does anyone else fume over displays with a "Polar Express" theme in the supermarket? They're trying to emphasize the engineering details of a train, but they're totally oblivious to wheels in the wrong places, connecting rods going the wrong way, trucks that are trying to be archbars or possibly Andrews, but seem to be all one solid piece--the list just goes on and on. And when you try to point out the simple ways in which the artwork could have been correct, and present a true image of a steam locomotive, the most fascinating machine ever constructed, your loving significant other will burst into peals of girlish laughter. It's a travesty from every direction. "Look, at least that one has a combination lever and a reach rod..." "Come ON." -------------------------------------------------- I'm sure in a child's imagination, anything is possible. The artwork for The Polar Express is certainly beautiful. Bill Bill's Railroad Empire N Scale Model Railroad: http://www.billsrailroad.net Brief History of N Scale: http://www.billsrailroad.net/history/n-scale Model Railroad Bookstore: http://www.billsrailroad.net/bookstore Children's Books and Toy Trains: http://www.billsrailroad.net/bookstore-4 Resources--Links to 1,000 sites: http://www.billsrailroad.net/bills-favorite-links > Does anyone else fume over displays with a "Polar Express" theme in > the supermarket? They're trying to emphasize the engineering details [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > sure in a child's imagination, anything is possible. The artwork for > The Polar Express is certainly beautiful. What is the Polar Express being referred to? > > Does anyone else fume over displays with a "Polar Express" theme in > > the supermarket? They're trying to emphasize the engineering details [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > What is the Polar Express being referred to?S New cartoon movie with a cartoon Tom Hanks as 5 (?) different characters using his voice overs. Train goes to the North Pole to convince a disbelieving (losing the faith in Christmas) youngster that Santa does exist. Taking the Grandkids, although some of them are getting a bit old for this sort of thing.  SignatureIn order to return good value to our shareholders, the light at the end of the tunnel has been outsourced to a country with no ability to power the light. However, they are cost effective thus, we will be able to support the light well into the future. Let's move on to the executive compensation plan ... Working the Rockie Road of the G&PX I wonder what Big John would have to say about the Polar Express movie. "Are those reindeer or goats in the background??? Hey it's Christmas time even though Thanksgiving isn't here yet. Take the kids and grandkids and letthem have a good time at the movies. I enjoyed the movie. Suspend disbelief, I did. But there were enough correct details to compensate for the other stuff. Do I like 2-8-4s? You betch-um, Red Ryder! Gene ABV61-1043.001.HCB <A HREF="http://www.tckworld.com/opfoot">http://www.tckworld.com/opfoot</A> Find "Skinny Dipping and Other Stories" On the web at www.publishamerica.com or www.military-brats.com and look for "Into Joy From Sadness" soon. anybody rivet counting anything on THE POLAR EXPRESS needs to relax,please. A. Just a movie. B. Based on a Children's Book, and emphasize Children's. C. Supermarket Displays ?? jai PS--I run a Big Boy #4010 next to my SD90MAC w/an E6 the supermarket displays are awful. OTOH, a lot of the rivets were accurately portrayed. (And a lot were totally ignored.) Gene ABV61-1043.001.HCB <A HREF="http://www.tckworld.com/opfoot">http://www.tckworld.com/opfoot</A> Find "Skinny Dipping and Other Stories" On the web at www.publishamerica.com or www.military-brats.com and look for "Into Joy From Sadness" soon. > the supermarket displays are awful. OTOH, a lot of the rivets were accurately > portrayed. (And a lot were totally ignored.) [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > www.military-brats.com > and look for "Into Joy From Sadness" soon. They spent a great deal of time, effort, and money digitizing PM 1225 (in Owosso, MI) for the movie. It was hoped that the cab number "1225", appropriate for the movie as 12/25, would appear in the movie, but it does not. This is, however, in keeping with the book, which mentions or shows no such number. The movie itself is, of course, a fantasy, so accuracy is not a prerequisite. Still, the digitization of the loco came off pretty well. Much of the advertising, on the other hand, bears little resemblance to ANY locomotive. Dan Mitchell ============ Dan Mitchell wrote: They spent a great deal of time, effort, and money digitizing PM 1225 (in Owosso, MI) for the movie. It was hoped that the cab number "1225", appropriate for the movie as 12/25, would appear in the movie, but it does not. This is, however, in keeping with the book, which mentions or shows no such number. The movie itself is, of course, a fantasy, so accuracy is not a prerequisite. Still, the digitization of the loco came off pretty well. Much of the advertising, on the other hand, bears little resemblance to ANY locomotive. ------------------------------------------------- Thanks for the info, Dan. I hope I get a chance to see the movie. Bill Bill's Railroad Empire N Scale Model Railroad: http://www.billsrailroad.net Brief History of N Scale: http://www.billsrailroad.net/history/n-scale Model Railroad Bookstore: http://www.billsrailroad.net/bookstore Children's Books and Toy Trains: http://www.billsrailroad.net/bookstore-4 Resources--Links to 1,000 sites: http://www.billsrailroad.net/bills-favorite-links I'm planning to see it with my son Philippe.....he is a train fanatic; drives his mom crazy now that she has 2 of us in the house. Ian Mathers Yellowknife, NT Philippes trains.... http://www.ballast-train.com/gallery/PhilippesTrains/Philippes-1.htm To be updated this week.... > Dan Mitchell wrote: > They spent a great deal of time, effort, and money digitizing PM 1225 [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > Resources--Links to 1,000 sites: > http://www.billsrailroad.net/bills-favorite-links Ian G. Mathers wrote: I'm planning to see it with my son Philippe.....he is a train fanatic; drives his mom crazy now that she has 2 of us in the house. Ian Mathers Yellowknife, NT Philippes trains.... http://www.ballast-train.com/gallery/PhilippesTrains/Philippes-1.htm To be updated this week.... ---------------------------------------------------- I always enjoy seeing Philippe's railroad, Ian. Especially the elephants in the lake and the dinosaur. Bill Bill's Railroad Empire N Scale Model Railroad: http://www.billsrailroad.net Brief History of N Scale: http://www.billsrailroad.net/history/n-scale Model Railroad Bookstore: http://www.billsrailroad.net/bookstore Children's Books and Toy Trains: http://www.billsrailroad.net/bookstore-4 Resources--Links to 1,000 sites: http://www.billsrailroad.net/bills-favorite-links > They spent a great deal of time, effort, and money digitizing PM 1225 > (in Owosso, MI) for the movie. It was hoped that the cab number "1225", [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > The movie itself is, of course, a fantasy, so accuracy is not a > prerequisite. Still, the digitization of the loco came off pretty well. It did, indeed. The horribly inaccurate advertising tie-ins have nothing to do with the artwork of the film. I'm no expert on that particular locomotive, but its rendition in the film is far more detailed and accurate than it needed to be for a general film, especially a kid's one. There are even a few funny train geek lines in the movie. It's not a great movie, being about 30 minutes of story in 90 minutes, shamelessly padded with repetitive action sequences (stop the train!) and truly horrible songs, but the train itself is beautiful. See it in 3D IMAX if you get the chance. Sort of nauseating, as if your eyes are a foot apart, but it does make the action sequences a little more bearable. For the songs I recommend ear plugs. Mark Alan Miller > For the songs I recommend ear plugs. Sounds like a "wait for the DVD" recommendation to me <g> SignatureSteve Fox Spews . . . and idiots lap it up. > Does anyone else fume over displays with a "Polar Express" theme in > the supermarket? They're trying to emphasize the engineering details [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > "Look, at least that one has a combination lever and a reach rod..." > "Come ON." I have been waiting to see all them beams moving on a model. Sure will look strange... sort of like a cross between a Northern and a Shay.... Jim Stewart > Does anyone else fume over displays with a "Polar Express" theme in > the supermarket? They're trying to emphasize the engineering details > of a train, but they're totally oblivious to wheels in the wrong > places, connecting rods going the wrong way, trucks that are trying to > be archbars or possibly Andrews, but seem to be all one solid > piece--the list just goes on and on. Good observation ;-) I try to tell my kids that it's just absolutely impossible to take a train to the North Pole -- you'll run out of coaling stations long before you reach your destination, let alone the fact that the crew will hit the FRA limit on hours worked and they'd just end up stranded somewhere in Greenland. But they come right back and me and point out that Frosty the Snowman already did it in the 1969 animation released by Bass & Rankin. I guess when it comes to issues about the North Pole and trains, it's better left to the experts -- our kids. John P <swim_n_paddle@yahoo.com> wrote: > Does anyone else fume over displays with a "Polar Express" theme in > the supermarket? They're trying to emphasize the engineering details > of a train, but they're totally oblivious to wheels in the wrong > places, connecting rods going the wrong way, trucks that are trying to > be archbars or possibly Andrews, but seem to be all one solid > piece--the list just goes on and on. Nothing new in that. I remember a Currier & Ives, or similar, print with a jet of steam coming out of the lead truck of a 4-4-0, not out of a cylinder cock. Even when there was only steam, the artists didn't necessarily know how they worked, and drew what looked good to them. -- Bill Kaiser wkaiser@mtholyoke.edu There are three ways to do a job: good, cheap, and quick. You can have any two. A good, cheap job won't be quick. A good, quick job won't be cheap. A cheap, quick job won't be good. |
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