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Jan Kohl - 04 Dec 2004 01:56 GMT
Can someone help me out with this?  Found in Raleigh, NC, in 2004, in a
private fenced lot.  Couldn't get close enough to see any reporting marks.

http://www.castlegraphics.com/graphic/transportation/rail/unk_passenger_car_rale
igh_nc_apr14_2004.jpg


What original railroad and car, if anyone knows?

Cheers!

Jan Kohl
Castle Graphics
www.castlegraphics.com
Steve Hoskins - 04 Dec 2004 04:56 GMT
>Can someone help me out with this?  Found in Raleigh, NC, in 2004, in a
>private fenced lot.  Couldn't get close enough to see any reporting marks.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>Castle Graphics
>www.castlegraphics.com

It is a Budd RDC-9...which is a cabless, single-engine version of the
RDC-1 (RDC-1 has cabs at both ends, and two diesel engines).

Being an RDC-9 narrows it down...only two roads purchased them, those
being the Boston & Maine and Canadian National.
Jan Kohl - 06 Dec 2004 15:33 GMT
Thanks, Steve and everyone for the input, I'll update the page to
reflect that.  I don't like not knowing what something is (or not being
able to tell others)...

Cheers!

Jan

>>Can someone help me out with this?  Found in Raleigh, NC, in 2004, in a
>>private fenced lot.  Couldn't get close enough to see any reporting marks.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
> Being an RDC-9 narrows it down...only two roads purchased them, those
> being the Boston & Maine and Canadian National.
Eric - 05 Dec 2004 00:19 GMT
It's a RDC-1. Built by Budd between 1949-62. 336 were made and over 2
dozen roads had them.

Without a look a a builder's plate there's no way of knowing who owned
this car originally. I believe the end door is non-standard.

Statistically since Boston and Maine owned 109 of the units or 34.4%
of the production it's most likely it was orginally a B&M unit.

Eric

"Can someone help me out with this?  Found in Raleigh, NC, in 2004, in
a
private fenced lot.  Couldn't get close enough to see any reporting
marks."

http://www.castlegraphics.com/graphic/transportation/rail/unk_passenger_car_rale
igh_nc_apr14_2004.jpg


What original railroad and car, if anyone knows?
Steve Hoskins - 05 Dec 2004 03:15 GMT
>It's a RDC-1. Built by Budd between 1949-62. 336 were made and over 2
>dozen roads had them.

If it is an RDC-1, then it would have end cab windows.  This car does
NOT, and the ends appear to be original, though as you noted below,
the door is non-standard.  Without the cab windows, it is an RDC-9.

>Without a look a a builder's plate there's no way of knowing who owned
>this car originally. I believe the end door is non-standard.
Steve Hoskins - 05 Dec 2004 03:16 GMT
>It's a RDC-1. Built by Budd between 1949-62. 336 were made and over 2
>dozen roads had them.

If it is an RDC-1, then it would have end cab windows.  This car does
NOT, and the ends appear to be original, though as you noted below,
the door is non-standard.  Without the cab windows, it is an RDC-9.

Another item that lends credence to my statement about it being an
RDC-9.....note that there is NO engine compartment right near the
front truck.  RDC-9's had only ONE engine, vs. two on RDC-1,2,3,4.

>Without a look a a builder's plate there's no way of knowing who owned
>this car originally. I believe the end door is non-standard.
Brock Bailey - 05 Dec 2004 21:51 GMT
The two pictures are of RDC Budd Railcars and the top one is one of 14 RDC
Rail Budd Cars on Vancouver island operating on the Esquimalt and Namimio
Railway   which will shortly be in local hands once agai after 100 plus
years...It will no longer be owned by Canadian Pacific Railways and part of
the track owned by railamerica..But locals hope to buy that part of the line
back as well.

Located in Victoria BC Canada ..35 miles from seattle washinton state usa
via ferry and 3 hours by ferry from vancouver bc canada.

Brock R Bailey
Victoria BC Canada

http://www.cordovabaystation.ca/month/rusl11.htm
http://www.castlegraphics.com/graphic/transportation/rail/unk_passenger_car_rale
igh_nc_apr14_2004.jpg


> Can someone help me out with this?  Found in Raleigh, NC, in 2004, in a
> private fenced lot.  Couldn't get close enough to see any reporting marks.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Castle Graphics
> www.castlegraphics.com
Steve Caple - 05 Dec 2004 22:58 GMT
> http://www.cordovabaystation.ca/month/rusl11.htm

Still with the arrogant (and utterly mistaken) Mickeysoft propaganda.  All
it means is the eedjit was too poor an HTML programmer to create a site
without Mickeysoft non-standard coding.

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Robert Heller - 06 Dec 2004 00:50 GMT
 Steve Caple <stevecaple@commoncast.net>,
 In a message on Sun, 5 Dec 2004 14:58:17 -0800, wrote :

SC> On Sun, 05 Dec 2004 21:51:58 GMT, Brock Bailey wrote:
SC> > http://www.cordovabaystation.ca/month/rusl11.htm
SC>
SC> Still with the arrogant (and utterly mistaken) Mickeysoft propaganda.  All
SC> it means is the eedjit was too poor an HTML programmer to create a site
SC> without Mickeysoft non-standard coding.

Just really *stupid* boilerplate JavaScript.  Disabling JavaScript shows
the page just fine with Mozilla (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i586; en-US;
rv:1.0.2) Gecko/20030717).  The JavaScript is making an *unnecessary*
test.  The page can be downloaded with wget and 'viewed' with lynx.  The
*HTML* is actually quite standard and portable -- nothing wrong with the
HTML, other than the *crap* in the <SCRIPT> ... </SCRIPT> tags, and even
that is *syntacticly* correct.  Just stupid.

The JavaScript is doing somewhat bogus ("impossible") things:
preventing right mouse clicks (to allow things like "save page as",
"view page source", "save image as", etc.).  And disabling 'text copy'
(eg 'copy-and-paste'). Between disabling JavaScript in Mozilla,
Netscape, etc., wget, and Lynx, these hacks are trivial to get around.
There really is no sane point in bothering.  I *suspect* that JavaScript
can probably be disabled with InterNet Explorer too (don't know -- don't
have a system where IE will run -- I run a 100% pure Linux shop here).

Disabling JavaScript has no affect on actually visiting or navigating at
http://www.cordovabaystation.ca/ other than bypassing their *stupid* and
useless copy protection games.  They really should put a proper
copyright notice (there is none) and leave it at that.  What is *really*
strange is that the JavaScript functions test for Netscape!  There is no
reason to re-direct if the browser is not IE!  Whoever wrote the
JavaScript is clueless.

Also: pages have MacOS newlines (CRs without NLs).

I sent a 'telegram' to Agent at Cordova Bay Station explaining all of
this.

SC>
SC> --
SC> Steve
SC>
SC> "The liberties of the people never were nor ever will be secure when the
SC> transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them."
SC>
SC>  - Patrick Henry
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Steve Caple - 06 Dec 2004 06:11 GMT
> their *stupid* and useless copy protection games

I've always thought that the height of pretentiousness.  Especially from
this guy!  Like I want his page code!

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