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Jeff Stanton - 23 Jul 2005 23:48 GMT
I have a small problem.  I need to install a number of ground throws on two
surfaces that do not hold nails well. One is homosote, and the other is
foam.  Does anyone out there have a trick for doing this?

Jeff
Carolyn&Keith - 24 Jul 2005 01:03 GMT
Jeff,

I had same problem mounting Caboose throws on my foam surface.  My wife has
some 2 inch quilting needles that fit through the two holes on the ground
throw.  They have round tips on them that I painted black to match the color
of the throws.  I shimmed the throw to make it level with the turnout arm
and push the pins through the throw holes.  A little Elmers holds the pins
in place.  Been in place for about six months and no problems.  Will make it
easy to replace if they break.

Keith

>I have a small problem.  I need to install a number of ground throws on two
>surfaces that do not hold nails well. One is homosote, and the other is
>foam.  Does anyone out there have a trick for doing this?
>
> Jeff
Jeff Gagnon - 24 Jul 2005 01:28 GMT
Jeff,

Dab contact cement w/small brush. Can even be removed and the surfaces
filled w/wood-filler and glue combination on homosote.

"Foam"... "fill" area LIGHTLY w/plastic model cement first. Dry. Then
contact cement.

Jeff
The CB&Q Guy - 24 Jul 2005 05:44 GMT
ASSuming you've got wood backing underneath the Homasote or foam, as
you should . . .

. . .Use longer nails.

Paul - "The CB&Q Guy"
(Modeling 1969 In HO.)
Fred Ellis - 24 Jul 2005 05:19 GMT
> I have a small problem.  I need to install a number of ground throws on two
> surfaces that do not hold nails well. One is homosote, and the other is
> foam.  Does anyone out there have a trick for doing this?
>
> Jeff

Homosote is a excellent material for holding track nails.  That is what
I use to nail down ground throws.  In fact I use homosote as a roadbed
when nailing down track.  Never had a nail come lose from homosote.

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Michael - 24 Jul 2005 07:32 GMT
place a small amount of balsa glue on each nail or pin or for that matter
into the hole used to secure the ground throw it should work as a packing
agent in the hole and harden in the hole.  I would use a small pair of
pliers and notch the nails or pins to give them an irregular shape more for
glue to harden over.

but thats what I'd do

mick
>I have a small problem.  I need to install a number of ground throws on two
>surfaces that do not hold nails well. One is homosote, and the other is
>foam.  Does anyone out there have a trick for doing this?
>
> Jeff
Frank Rosenbaum - 24 Jul 2005 14:41 GMT
You could use hot glue for the homasote, but it will hold the track nails
just fine.

You can use Latex Contact cement or Liquid Nails for Projects for the foam.

>I have a small problem.  I need to install a number of ground throws on two
>surfaces that do not hold nails well. One is homosote, and the other is
>foam.  Does anyone out there have a trick for doing this?
>
> Jeff
Joe Ellis - 24 Jul 2005 15:12 GMT
> I have a small problem.  I need to install a number of ground throws on two
> surfaces that do not hold nails well. One is homosote, and the other is
> foam.  Does anyone out there have a trick for doing this?
>
> Jeff

Ues a piece of basswood 1/8 to 1/4 inch thick and larger than the base
of the throw. Trace around it and excavate the foam so the wood sits
down in it, and glue it in with hot-melt glue. Then mount the throw on
the wood as normal.

I used a similar technique for mounting slide switches that I use for
turnout control, power routing to the frog, and dwarf signals showing
turnout position on my Bend Track modules... carve a hole in the foam
the size of the switch, put the wired switch in place, then pump the
hole full of hot-melt glue from the bottom. Provides strain relief for
the wires and holds the switch in position.

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