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BL - 25 Feb 2006 02:57 GMT
I'm very new to the hobby and have a question regarding the scale.
We're working with HO and wonder if our large collection of Hot Wheels
cars are similar scale to HO trains.  What is the actual scale of HO?
And does anyone know what the scale is then of standard Hot Wheels
collectibles?

Thank you,
Frank A. Rosenbaum - 25 Feb 2006 03:36 GMT
HO scale is 1:87.1  Hot Wheels are approximately 1/64th scale. That is equal
to S scale or the American Flyer scale, so the cars are larger than HO. If
you are not particularly concerned about the scale, you can use them. Just
don't use HO scale cars near the Hot Wheels.

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> I'm very new to the hobby and have a question regarding the scale.
> We're working with HO and wonder if our large collection of Hot Wheels
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> Thank you,
BL - 25 Feb 2006 03:51 GMT
Thank you.  That is most helpful.
David Nebenzahl - 25 Feb 2006 04:08 GMT
Frank A. Rosenbaum spake thus:

> HO scale is 1:87.1  Hot Wheels are approximately 1/64th scale. That is equal
> to S scale or the American Flyer scale, so the cars are larger than HO. If
> you are not particularly concerned about the scale, you can use them. Just
> don't use HO scale cars near the Hot Wheels.

Wait--not so fast: I've looked through quite a few of those little cars
(and trucks, construction equipment, etc.), How Wheels and Matchbox, and
I seem to remember that not only are they not all the same scale, but
some of them were pretty dang close to HO. Close enough to be no matter.
Some of them have the scale molded on the bottom or printed on the
package, though most don't.

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Jim Guthrie - 25 Feb 2006 08:44 GMT
David,

>> HO scale is 1:87.1  Hot Wheels are approximately 1/64th scale. That is equal
>> to S scale or the American Flyer scale, so the cars are larger than HO. If
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>Some of them have the scale molded on the bottom or printed on the
>package, though most don't.

I seem to remember reading that makers like Matchbox scaled their
models to suit the size of their packaging - so models of larger sized
prototypes would be built to a smaller scale.

Jim.
David Nebenzahl - 25 Feb 2006 18:34 GMT
Jim Guthrie spake thus:

>>> HO scale is 1:87.1 Hot Wheels are approximately 1/64th scale.
>>> That is equal to S scale or the American Flyer scale, so the cars
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> models to suit the size of their packaging - so models of larger
> sized prototypes would be built to a smaller scale.

I suspect that's the case, since one merchandising requirement is that
all the little hanging cards fit into their alloted space on the display
rack. I have one piece in particular, a very nicely-molded front-end
loader, which looks to me to be dead-on HO scale.

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Peter W. - 27 Feb 2006 05:05 GMT
>I seem to remember reading that makers like Matchbox scaled their
>models to suit the size of their packaging - so models of larger sized
>prototypes would be built to a smaller scale.

That is correct.  So, Matchbox (or Hotwheels for that matter) models
will vary in scale.  Many Matchbox models have their scale engraved on
the bottom.  Others don't.  So, while passenger automobiles might be
around 1:64 scale, other items will be different. Each vehicle has a
different scale.  So, even a Mini Cooper will be larger scale than a
model of a Cadillac Limousine. I suspect that some heavier construction
equipment is actually scaled down much closer to H0 scale in order to
fit into the "standard" Matchbox box.

Peteski
The CB&Q Guy - 25 Feb 2006 05:14 GMT
Also realize that many times you can get away with using their
construction machines with HO without them looking out of scale.

"Paul - The CB&Q Guy"
(Modeling Late 1960's In HO.)
 
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