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alleydude - 29 Dec 2006 21:22 GMT
Hello.  I have been looking at Marklin Z-Scale sets.  There is one on eBay I
am considering buying, but in doing some research on the set, I found (as
seen in the link below) that it uses AC to power the train.  I am hoping
this is a misprint.  Here is the link to where I found the info:

http://www.rocousa.com/Marklin_pages/81466.htm

Is this info correct?  Is it possible that this is an older (2004) set and
they have changed since?  Or are all Marklin Z-Scale sets AC?  Any help
would be appreciated.

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Klaus D. Mikkelsen - 29 Dec 2006 22:07 GMT
> Hello.  I have been looking at Marklin Z-Scale sets.  There is one on eBay I
> am considering buying, but in doing some research on the set, I found (as
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Is this info correct?

No, no, no, no.
Z scale is DC, Märklin is only AC (and 3 rail) in scale H0, the rest is
DC like all other manufactures.

Klaus
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alleydude - 29 Dec 2006 22:06 GMT
> No, no, no, no.
> Z scale is DC, Märklin is only AC (and 3 rail) in scale H0, the rest is
> DC like all other manufactures.
>
> Klaus

Wow, that's a relief.  Thanks for the help!

Ken
Klaus D. Mikkelsen - 29 Dec 2006 22:17 GMT
> Wow, that's a relief.  Thanks for the help!

You're most welcome

Z-scale is way too small for me. H0 is more appropiate, here I can get
the details of the trains and fix everything myself.

Latest puchase is a model of the first long distance steam engine in
germany, called "Saxonia"
http://www.modelbaneeuropa.hadsten.dk/klaus/saxonia.jpg

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alleydude - 29 Dec 2006 23:13 GMT
> Latest puchase is a model of the first long distance steam engine in
> germany, called "Saxonia"
> http://www.modelbaneeuropa.hadsten.dk/klaus/saxonia.jpg

That is very nice!  I love HO as well, but I have a fascination with
miniatures, and the smaller the better.  I have purchased a Z-Scale set off
eBay (haven't recieved it yet) and am looking at another.  I want to do a
small table top layout just for fun.  We also do O-Gauge as well, but right
now N is our primary focus.  Thanks again for the help.

Ken
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Bill - 30 Dec 2006 00:18 GMT
> Hello.  I have been looking at Marklin Z-Scale sets.  There is one on eBay I
> am considering buying, but in doing some research on the set, I found (as
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>
> Ken McClellanwww.hoboshack.comThe Model Railroad Forum
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Have you seen "Z-Track" magazine?

http://www.ztrack.com/

Marklin Z Scale is dc, but is there a limit as to the voltage used? I
recall seeing a MRC power pack adapted for use with Z scale that had a
"stop" on the control knob.

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Greg Procter - 30 Dec 2006 01:07 GMT
> > Hello.  I have been looking at Marklin Z-Scale sets.  There is one on eBay I
> > am considering buying, but in doing some research on the set, I found (as
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
> recall seeing a MRC power pack adapted for use with Z scale that had a
> "stop" on the control knob.

Maerklin Z is DC 2 rail, but the voltage is limited to 8-9 volts. At
that voltage they run like scalded cockroaches, so (upper range) scale
speeds are achieved at lower voltages still.

Until 5-10 years ago the motor armatures were 3 pole. Circa 10 years ago
they started to fit 5 pole armatures to their most expensive locos and
these have gradually been fitted throughout their range. The
improvements in running standards with the new armature are worth
having!

Regards,
Greg.P.
hoser@damngoodbeer.ca - 31 Dec 2006 02:32 GMT
> Marklin Z Scale is dc, but is there a limit as to the voltage used? I
> recall seeing a MRC power pack adapted for use with Z scale that had a
> "stop" on the control knob.

It's the MRC-1300 as modified by Micro-Trains Lines for use by Zedders.

http://www.abodysite.com/PEB-ModelRR/Zed/MTL_mod_MRC-1300_b.jpg
and
http://www.abodysite.com/PEB-ModelRR/Zed/MTL_mod_MRC-1300_a.jpg
as well as
http://www.abodysite.com/PEB-ModelRR/Zed/MTL_mod_MRC-1300_c.jpg

FYI, actual pics of a Micro-Trains Lines modified unit (mine) are found
here in this directory:
(1 Meg digicam pics)

http://www.abodysite.com/PEB-ModelRR/Zed/2006-12-30/

For your own piece of mind, run a DC voltage check on the unit if you
pick one up. Just to be sure. I did, and then marked more info on the
sticker that MTLines stuck on the face of the unit. Whether it needed to
be done or not, I feel better about the testing. Just to be sure.

More info, do not use a regular commonly found DC controller such as a
MRC Tech 4 220 for example. These have what's called "pulse power" and
are (according to MTLines) not good for the little Zed Locos.
I just took their word on that one, to be sure.

info pic re- above statement here:

http://www.abodysite.com/PEB-ModelRR/Zed/MTL_F7_sheet_01_detail.jpg

(on a side note, the Tech 4 220 I've got works just great with my N
scale stuff. You can literally make an N scale Atlas GP-7 non-decoder
"CRAWL" around a small 10 foot test line layout in 42 minutes if you try!)

Hope, some if any of this helps,

Pete in Calgary, AB, CA
alleydude - 31 Dec 2006 12:17 GMT
>> Marklin Z Scale is dc, but is there a limit as to the voltage used? I
>> recall seeing a MRC power pack adapted for use with Z scale that had a
[quoted text clipped - 35 lines]
>
> Pete in Calgary, AB, CA

Thank you and everyone for all the help, it is greatly appreciated.  I now
have two Marklin sets on the way, and an expansion set.  This is gonna be
GREAT!

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hoser@damngoodbeer.ca - 30 Dec 2006 23:40 GMT
I believe some Marklin HO info has leaked into that Zed page.

I've got both Marklin and Micro-Trains Line Zed setups and neither is
AC, as I'm sure others will tell you as well.

Pete in Calgary, AB, CA

> are all Marklin Z-Scale sets AC?  Any help
> would be appreciated.
 
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