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[DCC] 8-pin vs 9-pin

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Mark Mathu - 27 Apr 2007 04:42 GMT
The next release of Walthers PROTO 2000 RS-2 locos will come with a 9-pin
DCC socket...  I thought the NMRA DCC standard was 8 pins?

Why do some locos have 9-pin sockets instead?

What's the preferred / most common method of connecting an 8-pin decoder to
a 9-pin loco?

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Mark
Mark Mathu - 27 Apr 2007 04:50 GMT
> ... Walthers PROTO 2000 RS-2 locos

... sorry, make that PROTO 1000
Len - 27 Apr 2007 07:19 GMT
> The next release of Walthers PROTO 2000 RS-2 locos will come with a 9-pin
> DCC socket...  I thought the NMRA DCC standard was 8 pins?
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> ____
> Mark

All of the major manufacturers make 9-pin-to-8-pin connecting
cables. And TCS makes a 7-pin-to-8-pin cable for their "mini"
decoders for small locos that don't have a reverse direction
light.

The extra wires on the 9-pin decoders are for Function outputs.
On DigiTrax decoders the green wire is F1, the violet is F2.

Len
Pac Man - 27 Apr 2007 15:28 GMT
> The next release of Walthers PROTO 2000 RS-2 locos will come with a 9-pin
> DCC socket...  I thought the NMRA DCC standard was 8 pins?
>
> Why do some locos have 9-pin sockets instead?

   Most all Digitrax HO-scale decoders have the 9-pin connection, and have
for as long as I can recall (going back to the DH120's at the very
least...and that's around 1998, IIRC).  Lenz and NCE I believe also use them
on some decoders.  On the Digitrax DH12x series, those two extra wires serve
no purpose and I snip 'em.  On the DH14x and DH16x types, it's the function
leads for F1 and F2.
   The nice thing about 'em is that they are keyed, so it's not possible to
plug them in backwards (unlike the NMRA 8-pin).  Also, they appear to be a
lot more robust in use.  For example, I've never broken a wire off a 9-pin
decoder harness, but I have broken several 8-pin connectors (either the wire
or the pin has broken or fallen off).
   Personally, I prefer the 9-pin over the 8-pin for the above reasons.  As
for the manufacturers, I think it's also because the 9-pin connector doesn't
need the room and circuit board space that the 8-pin requires.

Paul A. Cutler III
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Stevert - 27 Apr 2007 16:38 GMT
>> The next release of Walthers PROTO 2000 RS-2 locos will come with a 9-pin
>> DCC socket...  I thought the NMRA DCC standard was 8 pins?
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> What have you done to save r.m.r today?
> *************

Mark,
  What Paul said.

  The 9-pin plugs are called JST headers, and the "Big Four" decoder
manufacturers (Digitrax, Lenz, NCE, and TCS) all make a number of
decoders with JST headers.

  In way of comparison, the RTR Athearns that are "DCC Quick-Plug
Equipped" also use JST headers.

HTH,
Stevert
 
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