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Model Forum / General / Railroads / May 2008Model This!
Went out to trainwatch via motorcycle this afternoon and saw something that might be fun to model for Union Pacific fans. A U.P. container freight was headed up Beaumont hill, and the lead unit had a flagstaff vertically attached to the engineer's side of the cab from which was flying a pretty good-sized American flag! (4' x 6'?) The freight was making enough headway that the flag was flying out quite straight from the staff, which made it's presence very obvious. I've seen this same thing once before, not long after 9/11, but this is the first time I've seen a loco decorated that way since then, and I've *never* seen anyone model it. -Pete On 5/4/2008 7:21 PM P. Roehling spake thus: > Went out to trainwatch via motorcycle this afternoon and saw something that > might be fun to model for Union Pacific fans. A U.P. container freight was [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > first time I've seen a loco decorated that way since then, and I've *never* > seen anyone model it. So what prompted this (flag flying from loco)? Did U.P. just write a check to the McCain campaign?  SignatureThe best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. - Attributed to Winston Churchill > So what prompted this (flag flying from loco)? Did U.P. just write a check > to the McCain campaign? Inconsiderate of me, I know; but somehow it never occurred to me to stop an 8,000 ton freight train so that I could grill the engineer about why he had a flag (horrors!) attached to his locomotive. (There's probably a dark motive in there somewhere though, because there were *three* guys visible in the cab, which we all know amounts to a vast right-wing conspiracy.) Probably a cabal of homophobic, racist, Nazi, neo-con-cult-member, nude sky-divers on their way to nuke the nearest whale in a Redwood forest: exactly the sorts of un-American losers we all associate with displaying the flag. Or, it might be a case of simple patriotism. On 5/4/2008 11:29 PM P. Roehling spake thus: >> So what prompted this (flag flying from loco)? Did U.P. just write a check >> to the McCain campaign? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > motive in there somewhere though, because there were *three* guys visible in > the cab, which we all know amounts to a vast right-wing conspiracy.) Hey, I was just askin' ... SignatureThe best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. - Attributed to Winston Churchill > Or, it might be a case of simple patriotism. A thing that is in ill repute after the past 8 years of draft-dodging chickenhawks accusing the sensible few who spoke out against their plans for the Great NeoCon New American Century War to Promote Democracy and Cheap Oil of being unpatriotic, if not outright fellow travelers of the vast Left Wing - Islamo-Fascist Alliance*. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1qE2vJdDw4 * yeah, I know that sounds nuts, but creeps like David Horowitz are still raking in tinfoil hat Republican cash from it - I saw him pimping his new book "Party of Defeat" on CSPAN the other day. SignatureSteve BUSH - CHENEY 2009 The Treason Trials >> Or, it might be a case of simple patriotism. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Cheap Oil of being unpatriotic, if not outright fellow travelers of the > vast Left Wing - Islamo-Fascist Alliance*. It's only in ill-repute with people who don't understand that right-wing fanaticism is no more "patriotic" than is left-wing fanaticism. (All fanatics have this in common: they truly believe that there is only *one* correct philosophy; and it's *their* philosophy, and that anyone who disagrees with them in any way is the enemy.) Despite their twisted logic, flying a flag with no visible political agenda attached isn't a statement of right-wing allegiance. It's apolitical. -Pete > Despite their twisted logic, flying a flag with no visible political > agenda attached isn't a statement of right-wing allegiance. It's > apolitical. No. It's just something only the overly patriotic Americans do. :-) Other nations demonstrate more restraint in their patriotism. -- Cheers Roger T. Home of the Great Eastern Railway at:- http://www.highspeedplus.com/~rogertra/ Latitude: 48° 25' North Longitude: 123° 21' West On 5/5/2008 12:49 PM Roger T. spake thus: >> Despite their twisted logic, flying a flag with no visible political >> agenda attached isn't a statement of right-wing allegiance. It's [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Other nations demonstrate more restraint in their patriotism. Mostly. Certainly not China, judging from what I saw when I went to the Olympic torch relay in San Francisco and saw the thousands of Chinese folks all waving the same banners, flags and giant stuffed animals, all courtesy of the Chinese consulate there to counteract the "Tibetan propaganda". But we (USAns) do tend to go waaaay overboard on the patriotism bit, I agree. SignatureThe best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. - Attributed to Winston Churchill > On 5/5/2008 12:49 PM Roger T. spake thus: > [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > But we (USAns) do tend to go waaaay overboard on the patriotism bit, I > agree. "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel." --Samuel Johnson. mark "not wearing any flag pin... esp. those Really Patriotic ones made in China" > Despite their twisted logic, flying a flag with no visible political agenda > attached isn't a statement of right-wing allegiance. It's apolitical. How about flying it upsode down? Our ship of state is damn sure in distress. SignatureSteve On 5/5/2008 12:23 PM P. Roehling spake thus: > Despite their twisted logic, flying a flag with no visible political agenda > attached isn't a statement of right-wing allegiance. It's apolitical. Well, we really have no way of knowing that, do we? I mean, who ordered that the flag be flown? Probably not the engineer, conductor or fireman on the train, I'd guess. Which leaves someone higher up at UP. So I have no idea who was making a "statement", if any, or what that statement was. Anyhow, don't stop trainwatching on our account. I liked your previous report on the warehouse facility. SignatureThe best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. - Attributed to Winston Churchill >> So what prompted this (flag flying from loco)? Did U.P. just write a >> check to the McCain campaign? [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > exactly the sorts of un-American losers we all associate with displaying > the flag. Now that's ridiculous. Nude skydivers would be voting Democrat, since the Republicans are anti freedom..... mark "actually, my wife *is* a naturist, and it would be worth serious hospital time to call her a Republican...." >> Probably a cabal of homophobic, racist, Nazi, neo-con-cult-member, nude >> sky-divers on their way to nuke the nearest whale in a Redwood forest: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Now that's ridiculous. Nude skydivers would be voting Democrat, since the > Republicans are anti freedom..... Uh, maybe I'm jumping to the wrong conclusion, but perhaps -just *perhaps*- you failed to turn on your irony detector before reading the paragraph above? > mark "actually, my wife *is* a naturist, and it would be worth > serious hospital time to call her a Republican...." Oh, I've got nothing against nudity. In fact, that's the problem. -Pete On 5/7/2008 12:11 AM P. Roehling spake thus: >>> Probably a cabal of homophobic, racist, Nazi, neo-con-cult-member, nude >>> sky-divers on their way to nuke the nearest whale in a Redwood forest: [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > you failed to turn on your irony detector before reading the paragraph > above? Or perhaps yours failed when you wrote your reply. SignatureThe best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. - Attributed to Winston Churchill >>> Now that's ridiculous. Nude skydivers would be voting Democrat, since >>> the [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Or perhaps yours failed when you wrote your reply. David, you wouldn't know an ironic exchange if it bit you in the a.s. We're both kidding. And we both know it. Too bad about you. >>>> Now that's ridiculous. Nude skydivers would be voting Democrat, since >>>> the Republicans are anti freedom..... [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > We're both kidding. And we both know it. And hey, we're all here for big iron-y, right? mark "gotta get that train table together this weekend, and start layin' track for that Pennsy Atlantic I built...." >> mark "actually, my wife *is* a naturist, and it would be worth >> serious hospital time to call her a Republican...." > > Oh, I've got nothing against nudity. > > In fact, that's the problem. Only problem with nudity is that there isn't enough of it. SignatureRick Jones Remove the Extra Dot to e-mail me The Lake Erie & Oregon Railroad http://www.geocities.com/seventysixinchesoffun/ "Conservative ideals are anathema to freedom." -Benjamin Franklin > >> mark "actually, my wife *is* a naturist, and it would be worth > >> serious hospital time to call her a Republican...." [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Only problem with nudity is that there isn't enough of it. Try a Floriduhh beach, there's too much bare skin! On 5/7/2008 7:41 PM Greg Procter spake thus: >>>> mark "actually, my wife *is* a naturist, and it would be worth >>>> serious hospital time to call her a Republican...." [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Try a Floriduhh beach, there's too much bare skin! I'm surprised at you, Greg; there's much more skin at any Yurpeen beach. SignatureThe best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. - Attributed to Winston Churchill > On 5/7/2008 7:41 PM Greg Procter spake thus: > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > I'm surprised at you, Greg; there's much more skin at any Yurpeen beach. I've only been to Europe to look at model trains/shops - they have beaches? Greg.P. > I've only been to Europe to look at model trains/shops - they have > beaches? Both kinds. But when did you start typing with a Spanish accent? > > I've only been to Europe to look at model trains/shops - they have > > beaches? > > Both kinds. But when did you start typing with a Spanish accent? Must have been when I was visiting Toledo. > Only problem with nudity is that there isn't enough of it. Well, each of us has only just so much nudity to offer the world, and in my experience the people who have the most to offer are in fact the ones you'd most likely rather not see. -Pete On 5/8/2008 12:39 AM P. Roehling spake thus: >> Only problem with nudity is that there isn't enough of it. > > Well, each of us has only just so much nudity to offer the world, and in my > experience the people who have the most to offer are in fact the ones you'd > most likely rather not see. In economic terms, the supply far outstrips* the demand. *intentional pun. SignatureThe best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. - Attributed to Winston Churchill > On 5/8/2008 12:39 AM P. Roehling spake thus: > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > In economic terms, the supply far outstrips* the demand. True. My wife tells me about some talk radio person (a liberal! Imagine that!) who was to a nude beach, and his reaction was there there were some people who shouldn't be seen nude in their shower.... mark |
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