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Model Forum / General / Railroads / May 2008White decal circles
I'm looking for a source of white decal circles (dots?) about 6" dia. in HO scale (about 1/16" actual diameter)... does anyone have a source? I'd need a few dozen at most -- for a railroad sign post project. ____ Mark Mathu Whitefish Bay, Wis. > I'm looking for a source of white decal circles (dots?) about 6" dia. in > HO scale (about 1/16" actual diameter)... does anyone have a source? I'd > need a few dozen at most -- for a railroad sign post project. A sheet of white decal paper (available from Micro-Mark I believe) and a hole-punch would give you as many white dots as you needed in just a couple of minutes. -Pete >> I'm looking for a source of white decal circles (dots?) about 6" dia. in >> HO scale (about 1/16" actual diameter)... does anyone have a source? I'd [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >hole-punch would give you as many white dots as you needed in just a couple >of minutes. Actually, the hole size of 1/16" makes even the smallest hole punch useless but this does give me an idea. Remember the old paper tape computer storage? They had hole punches that would make millions of punches an hour and each dot punched was exactly 1/16" in diameter. Sounds like a good use for a very obsolete piece of equipment. If you can find one. -- Ray >>> I'm looking for a source of white decal circles (dots?) about 6" dia. in >>> HO scale (about 1/16" actual diameter)... does anyone have a source? [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Actually, the hole size of 1/16" makes even the smallest hole punch > useless but this does give me an idea. BING! Sorry, but there are hole-punchers out there that come with a selection of plungers and palettes in different sizes. Mine, for instance, will cut discs anywhere from 1/16" to 1/4" in 1/32" graduations. For an even cheaper version see: http://www.cartserver.com/sc/cart.cgi for a 1/16" hole punch that lists for around $7.00. -Pete > BING! > Sorry, but there are hole-punchers out there that come with a selection of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > For an even cheaper version see: http://www.cartserver.com/sc/cart.cgi > for a 1/16" hole punch that lists for around $7.00. I was hoping to avoid the condition of one layer of paper (or cardstock) on another. I'm trying to find ideas for putting a white circle on a metal star, see http://www.mathu.com/cgw_flanger.jpg. I probably am too narrow-focused to just be looking at a decal solution as a back-up to trying to hand-paint it. I am open to all ideas. > I was hoping to avoid the condition of one layer of paper (or cardstock) > on another. No, no! The decal paper I'm speaking of is -if I understood the Micro-Mark text correctly- just one big white decal that you use for a background when you're computer printing your logo on it. You then cut it out carefully and your logo now has a white background. (See these old S.P. roundels as an example of the sort of logo I'm thinking about.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:OP-19447.jpg So your white dots would be tiny round white *decals*, not just another layer of paper. > I'm trying to find ideas for putting a white circle on a metal star, see > http://www.mathu.com/cgw_flanger.jpg. How cool! What railroad used those? > I probably am too narrow-focused to just be looking at a decal solution as > a back-up to trying to hand-paint it. I am open to all ideas. Easy one: do it the same way *they* probably did it! Cut (or punch, or whatever) a 1/16" round hole in a piece of paper and hold it right up next to the flanger star ( you could center it on a tiny penciled dot right in the center of the star) and then swipe across it once lightly with an airbrush loaded with white paint. Probably be a good idea to practice a while on scraps until you get it right consistently, but I've seen guys do *extremely* intricate camouflage jobs on aircraft models using exactly that technique, so I *know* it can be done! -Pete >> I was hoping to avoid the condition of one layer of paper (or cardstock) >> on another. [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > How cool! What railroad used those? Chicago Great Western >> How cool! What railroad used those? > > Chicago Great Western Thanks, Howard. Somehow I'd never seen a picture of one before, and it struck me as being really neat. -Pete On 5/28/2008 11:49 PM P. Roehling spake thus: > Sorry, but there are hole-punchers out there that come with a selection of > plungers and palettes in different sizes. Mine, for instance, will cut discs > anywhere from 1/16" to 1/4" in 1/32" graduations. > > For an even cheaper version see: http://www.cartserver.com/sc/cart.cgi for > a 1/16" hole punch that lists for around $7.00. I'm curious about your punch. Unfortunately, you must have left something off that URL, since it tells me "unreadable! This usually occurs when a cart-id code is not formed correctly in the "item" variable." when I look at it.  SignatureThe best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter. - Attributed to Winston Churchill > I'm curious about your punch. Unfortunately, you must have left something > off that URL, since it tells me "unreadable! This usually occurs when a > cart-id code is not formed correctly in the "item" variable." when I look > at it. Whoops, sorry! Turns out I can't access it either. That's what I get for trying to save everyone some time. Try http://www.1stopsquare.com/punches/handpunch.html and scroll down the page a bit less than half way. -Pete P.S. This is not *my* punch. Mine's very old and was made by the Whitney Metal Tool Company of Rockford Illinois for heavy commercial use such as making gaskets, punching holes in leather, Etc. Works okay on paper too, though. > Remember the old paper tape computer storage? They had hole punches > that would make millions of punches an hour and each dot punched was > exactly 1/16" in diameter. Sounds like a good use for a very > obsolete piece of equipment. If you can find one. I only need a few dozen at most. >> Remember the old paper tape computer storage? They had hole punches >> that would make millions of punches an hour and each dot punched was >> exactly 1/16" in diameter. Sounds like a good use for a very >> obsolete piece of equipment. If you can find one. > >I only need a few dozen at most. How about paint with a rubber stamp? -- Ray >> I'm looking for a source of white decal circles (dots?) about 6" dia. in >> HO scale (about 1/16" actual diameter)... does anyone have a source? I'd [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > -Pete I don't believe I'd be interested in trying to handle a decal 1/16" in diameter. How about something simple like a psint marker? I've seen some that look like an oversized ball point pen that you could simply make one dot with. Just an idea... dlm > I don't believe I'd be interested in trying to handle a decal 1/16" in > diameter. How about something simple like a paint marker? I've seen some > that look like an oversized ball point pen that you could simply make one > dot with. Just an idea... I've got one sitting on my workbench right now. Turns out it's difficult to get the paint to flow evenly, recalling the old Richard Armour couplet: "Shake and shake the ketchup bottle. none will come, and then a lot'l." -Pete >I'm looking for a source of white decal circles (dots?) about 6" dia. in HO >scale (about 1/16" actual diameter)... does anyone have a source? I'd need >a few dozen at most -- for a railroad sign post project. Jeepers, 1/16" diameter decals would be kinda tedius to apply, wouldn't they? Why not find some 1/16" diameter rubber (even an o-ring section would work if you can't find something straight) and use it like a rubber stamp with some white paint? Maybe stryene rod would would as well to apply the paint dots. Dale > Jeepers, 1/16" diameter decals would be kinda tedius to apply, > wouldn't they? Yes, no doubt. The first thing I thought of for a similar modelingf experience I've has was my memories of putting dashes on the sills of 1950s-era boxcars. > Why not find some 1/16" diameter rubber (even > an o-ring section would work if you can't find something straight) > and use it like a rubber stamp with some white paint? Maybe > stryene rod would would as well to apply the paint dots. Yeah... my first plan is to paint (especially since these are only trackside HO scale signs), I'm just starting to work on a "plan B" to avoid surprises -- and I couldn't find dots in my Microscale catalog. So I am looking for ideas to be prepared. Your advice is great ... probably even a styrene rod is a solution, since I only need a few dozen and I can certainly accept a a few failures in my attempts. Thanks for an obvious idea which slipped right past me. ____ Mark >>I wrote: >>Maybe stryene rod would would as well to apply the paint dots. >Thanks for an obvious idea which slipped right past me. If you made it past my "stryene" and "would would", I'm sure you'll succeed with very few failures in any method you choose :) Obviously time for bed, Dale >> Jeepers, 1/16" diameter decals would be kinda tedius to apply, >> wouldn't they? [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] >only need a few dozen and I can certainly accept a a few failures in my >attempts. Actually, I didn't see either this or the previous post before I posted mine but balsa wood from the other corner of the hobby shop could be used as a stamp and comes in 1/16" size. >Thanks for an obvious idea which slipped right past me. Good luck Mark. -- Ray >Actually, I didn't see either this or the previous post before I >posted mine but balsa wood from the other corner of the hobby shop >could be used as a stamp and comes in 1/16" size. Even better idea :) Dale >>Actually, I didn't see either this or the previous post before I >>posted mine but balsa wood from the other corner of the hobby shop >>could be used as a stamp and comes in 1/16" size. > > Even better idea :) But the mask and airbrush idea holds better chances for consistently accurate placement. SignatureSteve > Actually, I didn't see either this or the previous post before I > posted mine but balsa wood from the other corner of the hobby shop > could be used as a stamp and comes in 1/16" size. But balsa isn't available as a dowel; it only comes in square or rectangular cross-sections. However. 1/16" hardwood dowels are still available in some hardware stores, and if you can't find those, cutting a round toothpick carefully in half on one of the tapered ends would yield you a perfectly round "dot stamp" of whatever size you needed up to roughly 3/32". (Or, you could get the same effect by running a small dowel into a pencil sharpener and then trimming it off to the diameter you wanted...) Okay, I'm officially out of ideas at this point. -Pete >I'm looking for a source of white decal circles (dots?) about 6" dia. in HO >scale (about 1/16" actual diameter)... does anyone have a source? I'd need >a few dozen at most -- for a railroad sign post project. I got white circles from a commercial sheet of dry transfer symbols. You can get squares, starts, circles, full or outlined. Not sure of exact sizes for your project, but I got lucky. Ray Hobin NMRA Life # 17XX; TCA # HR-78-XXXXX; ARHS # 2XXX Durham, NC [Where tobacco was king; now The City of Medicine] |
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