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The BIG one - I've been shot

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Mike Hughes - 21 Aug 2008 18:45 GMT
Regular readers will remember that I promised you all a BIG one.

At last I've managed to sum up the courage to publish this photo. Some
say you will need a sick bag to view this one - and they are just the
kind ones! Here it is
http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/p52922253.html

Having asked you to send in your various captions after I've posted
photos of our members (and visitors) I must now stand in the firing line
myself. So this is the next 'caption competition'.

I know I probably don't have to tell you that you can be a rude as you
like. I'll publish the ones that are suitable for general consumption
with the final one being posted to the site. This time the decision is
*mine*

P.S. Don't forget that Broke Brick Mountain and The Ashley, Danville and
Deanstown layouts are at Firle Village hall, East Sussex on Monday 25th
August (which just happens to be my birthday!!)

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Mike Hughes
A Taxi driver licensed for London and Brighton
at home in Tarring, West Sussex, England
Interested in American trains real and model?
Look here http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/

Steve Firth - 21 Aug 2008 19:28 GMT
> Regular readers will remember that I promised you all a BIG one.

Who the f.ck are you and what has this crap to do with transport?
®i©ardo - 21 Aug 2008 19:40 GMT
>> Regular readers will remember that I promised you all a BIG one.
>
> Who the f.ck are you and what has this crap to do with transport?

Well it's a moving picture - in some ways.

Signature

Moving things in still pictures!

Mike P - 21 Aug 2008 19:51 GMT
>> Regular readers will remember that I promised you all a BIG one.
>
> Who the f.ck are you and what has this crap to do with transport?

He's Mike Hughes, Obviously.

I have no f.cking clue what the answer to the second part of your question
is.

Mike P
Paul Weaver - 21 Aug 2008 20:11 GMT
> >> Regular readers will remember that I promised you all a BIG one.
>
> > Who the f.ck are you and what has this crap to do with transport?
>
> He's Mike Hughes, Obviously.

More than that, he's a taxi driver licensed for London and Brighton,
and lives in Tarring, West Sussex, England

Not many people can say that.
Roger T. - 21 Aug 2008 20:19 GMT
"Steve Firth"

> Who the f.ck are you and what has this crap to do with transport?

Nice language Steve.  Was it necessary?

--
Cheers
Roger T.
See the GER at: -
http://www.islandnet.com/~rogertra/
Twibil - 21 Aug 2008 20:57 GMT
> > Who the f.ck are you and what has this crap to do with transport?
>
> Nice language Steve.  Was it necessary?

Oh, probably about as necessary as your attempt to play net-nanny.
Roger T. - 21 Aug 2008 21:43 GMT
On Aug 21, 12:19 pm, "Roger T." <roger...@highspeedplus.com> wrote:

> > Who the f.ck are you and what has this crap to do with transport?
>
> Nice language Steve. Was it necessary?

Oh, probably about as necessary as your attempt to play net-nanny.

This is a group about ...........................  Oh, never mind, there's
morons and people who can't express themselves without the use of profanity
everywhere.  Why not here?

This group as gone down hill anyway.

--
Cheers
Roger T.
See the GER at: -
http://www.islandnet.com/~rogertra/
Peter Masson - 21 Aug 2008 22:07 GMT
> This group as gone down hill anyway.

Well, it's dropped its aitches. ;-)

Peter
BrianW - 21 Aug 2008 22:20 GMT
> On Aug 21, 12:19 pm, "Roger T." <roger...@highspeedplus.com> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> This group as gone down hill anyway.

I think this has arisen because the OP posted not only to the model
rail groups, where I assume he is a regular, but also to uk.railway
and uk.transport.
Steve Firth - 22 Aug 2008 09:10 GMT
>  never mind, there's morons and people who can't express themselves
> without the use of profanity everywhere.

Indeed, two separate groups. You're in the first one.

I'll stand on the side of D H Lawrence, James Joyce and Shakespeare. You
can line up with Enid Blyton and your intellectual peers.

ObScenity: f.ck.
Andy Cap - 22 Aug 2008 10:09 GMT
>>  never mind, there's morons and people who can't express themselves
>> without the use of profanity everywhere.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>I'll stand on the side of D H Lawrence, James Joyce and Shakespeare. You
>can line up with Enid Blyton and your intellectual peers.

And you REALLY believe you'll be remembered in 100 years time ? I think it's the
context that matters, rather than just inserting them randomly to try and create
an impression of butchness..
Steve Firth - 22 Aug 2008 10:31 GMT
> >>  never mind, there's morons and people who can't express themselves
> >> without the use of profanity everywhere.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> And you REALLY believe you'll be remembered in 100 years time ?

I don't give a f.ck.

> I think it's the context that matters, rather than just inserting them
> randomly to try and create an impression of butchness..

Of course naming yourself after a drunken wifebeater isn't an attempt to
create an impression of "butchness" is it?
Ray Haddad - 22 Aug 2008 10:49 GMT
>> >>  never mind, there's morons and people who can't express themselves
>> >> without the use of profanity everywhere.
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>Of course naming yourself after a drunken wifebeater isn't an attempt to
>create an impression of "butchness" is it?

Say, you're really not enjoying this, are you?
--
Ray
Steve Firth - 22 Aug 2008 11:09 GMT
> Say, you're really not enjoying this, are you?

Say, you always talk through your arse?
Ray Haddad - 22 Aug 2008 12:46 GMT
>> Say, you're really not enjoying this, are you?
>
>Say, you always talk through your arse?

Only before I blow you a kiss. Deal.
--
Ray
Steve Firth - 22 Aug 2008 13:21 GMT
> >> Say, you're really not enjoying this, are you?
> >
> >Say, you always talk through your arse?
>
> Only before I blow you a kiss. Deal.

Sorry, I don't do Friends of Dorothy.
Ray Haddad - 22 Aug 2008 20:49 GMT
>> >> Say, you're really not enjoying this, are you?
>> >
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Sorry, I don't do Friends of Dorothy.

Still not enjoying this, eh?
--
Ray
Steve Firth - 23 Aug 2008 00:37 GMT
> >> >> Say, you're really not enjoying this, are you?
> >> >
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Still not enjoying this, eh?

Still talking through your arse, eh?

(sotto voce - are all the morons who play with toy trains really as dumb
as this one?)
Ray Haddad - 23 Aug 2008 00:40 GMT
>> >> >> Say, you're really not enjoying this, are you?
>> >> >
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>(sotto voce - are all the morons who play with toy trains really as dumb
>as this one?)

A person such as yourself should remain silent on a newsgroup and be
thought a fool rather than type and remove all doubt.
--
Ray
Twibil - 23 Aug 2008 05:30 GMT
> A person such as yourself should remain silent on a newsgroup and be
> thought a fool rather than type and remove all doubt.

"Too late!"

-Marty Feldman as Igor in "Young Frankenstein".
Steve Firth - 23 Aug 2008 11:37 GMT
> A person such as yourself should remain silent on a newsgroup and be
> thought a fool rather than type and remove all doubt.

Thought up that all by yourself did you?

Oh no, it's just another net wannabee armed with a dictionary of
quotations.
Ray Haddad - 23 Aug 2008 12:51 GMT
>> A person such as yourself should remain silent on a newsgroup and be
>> thought a fool rather than type and remove all doubt.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>Oh no, it's just another net wannabee armed with a dictionary of
>quotations.

And you believe your own reply was original? At least I paraphrased.

Look it up.
--
Ray
Steve Firth - 23 Aug 2008 13:57 GMT
> >> A person such as yourself should remain silent on a newsgroup and be
> >> thought a fool rather than type and remove all doubt.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> And you believe your own reply was original? At least I paraphrased.

What an intellectual giant you are.

> Look it up.

I don't need to.

Go pull another unoriginal mumbling of something you barely understand
in order to confirm your status as a dullard. It's Saturday and I like a
laugh at the weekend.
Ray Haddad - 23 Aug 2008 18:02 GMT
>> >> A person such as yourself should remain silent on a newsgroup and be
>> >> thought a fool rather than type and remove all doubt.
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>in order to confirm your status as a dullard. It's Saturday and I like a
>laugh at the weekend.

Let's see. All this from a guy who can't see that the headers of
this thread are all in Railroad related newsgroups. Are you really
so stupid as to take on folk in another newsgroup just for sport and
not expect to become someone's chewtoy? Seriously, mate?
--
Ray
Steve Firth - 23 Aug 2008 21:06 GMT
> Let's see. All this from a guy who can't see that the headers of
> this thread are all in Railroad related newsgroups.

That statement made by someone too stupid to realise that I had already
pointed out that I was seeing responses from children who still play
with toy trains.

> Are you really so stupid as to take on folk in another newsgroup just for
> sport and not expect to become someone's chewtoy? Seriously, mate?

You think this lame blubbering makes you look like something other than
a complete fuckwit, "mate"? Anyway, you antipodean arsewit your
girlfriend is calling. "Baaa Baaa Baaa."
Ray Haddad - 23 Aug 2008 23:29 GMT
>> Let's see. All this from a guy who can't see that the headers of
>> this thread are all in Railroad related newsgroups.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>a complete fuckwit, "mate"? Anyway, you antipodean arsewit your
>girlfriend is calling. "Baaa Baaa Baaa."

You got lucky this time, mate. I've been advised by powers greater
than yourself to leave my chewtoy (that would be you, mate) alone
and allow the newsgroups to return to normal. And here I was, having
so much fun toying with the likes of you.

Now go on back to your SUV. You know. That thing you have to drive
to make up for all of your other inadequacies. You know. That big,
powerful vroom-vroom machine that takes the place of your missing
manhood, missing family jewels and any gray matter that you have
left from sniffing gasoline.

We now return you to our regularly scheduled programming.
--
Ray
Steve Firth - 24 Aug 2008 13:14 GMT
> You got lucky this time, mate. I've been advised by powers greater
> than yourself to leave my chewtoy (that would be you, mate) alone
> and allow the newsgroups to return to normal. And here I was, having
> so much fun toying with the likes of you.

Translation: "Wickle Way is Wunnin Away"

Run away, Run away!
Ray Haddad - 25 Aug 2008 00:10 GMT
>> You got lucky this time, mate. I've been advised by powers greater
>> than yourself to leave my chewtoy (that would be you, mate) alone
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Run away, Run away!

Still here, watching you spin and spin and spin and spin . . .
--
Ray
Steve Firth - 25 Aug 2008 02:36 GMT
> >> You got lucky this time, mate. I've been advised by powers greater
> >> than yourself to leave my chewtoy (that would be you, mate) alone
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Still here, watching you spin and spin and spin and spin . . .

Keep on watching sheepboy.
still a novice - 25 Aug 2008 21:33 GMT
>>> You got lucky this time, mate. I've been advised by powers greater
>>> than yourself to leave my chewtoy (that would be you, mate) alone
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Still here, watching you spin and spin and spin and spin . . .

Didn't you get warned off once? Why dont you naff off back to your trainset?
Ray Haddad - 25 Aug 2008 22:27 GMT
>>>> You got lucky this time, mate. I've been advised by powers greater
>>>> than yourself to leave my chewtoy (that would be you, mate) alone
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
>Didn't you get warned off once? Why dont you naff off back to your trainset?

Who said I'd take the advice forever? Is your world so static? Oh,
dear. Go back to being an aggressive fool on the UK motorways.
--
Ray
Twibil - 26 Aug 2008 07:38 GMT
> Still here, watching you spin and spin and spin and spin . . .

I always thought that the phrase "Twisting slowly, slowly in the
wind." had a certain picturesque ring to it.....and it certainly seems
fitting in this case.

Anybody got a gibbet?

-Pete
Steve Firth - 26 Aug 2008 10:27 GMT
> > Still here, watching you spin and spin and spin and spin . . .
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Anybody got a gibbet?

Gibbet's don't "twist slowly in the wind" since they tend to be attached
by a short series of links to the gibbet post. They may sway in the
wind, but twisting is a degree of freedom denied to them.

I though you were a genius, fucktrousers? Yet every time you open your
gob to declaim, you end up inserting your foot in the orifice. Does that
explain why your voice is muffled when you sit down?
Twibil - 26 Aug 2008 21:36 GMT
> > > Still here, watching you spin and spin and spin and spin . . .
>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> by a short series of links to the gibbet post. They may sway in the
> wind, but twisting is a degree of freedom denied to them.

"Oh, baby, you are *so* talented! And they are *SO* dumb!"

-Cleavon Little to himself in "Blazing Saddles".

(Hint: When you fail to understand what commonly hangs from a gibbet
and "twists slowly in the wind" -and then try to make fun of another
poster because *you* didn't understand the allusion- you aren't making
*him* look bad.)

> I though you were a genius, fucktrousers?

Well, I can spell "thought".

> Yet every time you open your
> gob to declaim, you end up inserting your foot in the orifice. Does that
> explain why your voice is muffled when you sit down?

Poor sad little jealous Brit. Your eglatatian idea that anyone who
dares to stand above the crowd should be cut down to size is one that
doesn't fly here in the States: ask any of the hundreds of thousands
of talented folks from Britain who emigrated over here, where we
admire and reward those who are well above average, and don't put up
with bullshit like class limitations on how far you're allowed to rise
in society or on the pay-scale. (And those Brits have almost
universally done quite well here, thank you.)

The fact that your social, political, and taxation systems have chased
*huge* numbers of your best and brightest to other lands where they
can acheive their potential without limits -provided only that they're
willing to work hard- largely accounts for the position you now find
yourselves in: I.E. a country that doesn't work very well since most
of it's smart folks left.

So rave on, little man. Nobody with more than three functioning
neurons cares what you think or say, and unless you can come up with
something a lot more sensible -or even just plain more entertaining-
than you have so far, I doubt I'll even bother to read your posts.
Steve Firth - 27 Aug 2008 10:42 GMT
> (Hint: When you fail to understand what commonly hangs from a gibbet
> and "twists slowly in the wind" -and then try to make fun of another
> poster because *you* didn't understand the allusion- you aren't making
> *him* look bad.)

Other than gibbets is there anything else you don't understand? Have you
actually seen a gibbet or a gibbet post?

Perhaps you should learn the difference between a gibbet and the
gallows.

[snip painfully childish typographical error flame and several pages of
self-congratulatory waffle]
Charlie Hulme - 23 Aug 2008 14:24 GMT
Perhaps the originator of this thread could be
persuaded to avoid cross-posting, especially to
uk.transport?

Charlie
Ray Haddad - 23 Aug 2008 18:03 GMT
>Perhaps the originator of this thread could be
>persuaded to avoid cross-posting, especially to
>uk.transport?

Why? Trains in the UK aren't considered transport? When did that
happen?
--
Ray
Charlie Hulme - 23 Aug 2008 18:40 GMT
>> Perhaps the originator of this thread could be
>> persuaded to avoid cross-posting, especially to
>> uk.transport?
>
> Why? Trains in the UK aren't considered transport?

Not by some of the foul-spoken people who post in
uk.transport they aren't, no.

Charlie
Ray Haddad - 23 Aug 2008 18:53 GMT
>>> Perhaps the originator of this thread could be
>>> persuaded to avoid cross-posting, especially to
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>Not by some of the foul-spoken people who post in
>uk.transport they aren't, no.

Clearly. What are they to them? Are they so arrogant that only SUVs
and convertibles count as transport? Oh, wait. They're hung up on
those little red double decker buses. Right?
--
Ray
Jerry - 23 Aug 2008 20:46 GMT
>>> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 14:24:12 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any
>>> card"
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> and convertibles count as transport? Oh, wait. They're hung up on
> those little red double decker buses. Right?

You were correct the first time, only SUVs and the ilk (especially to
trolls like Firth), the problem is the original post wasn't about real
trains but models so it's probably even off topic for the uk.railway
group never mind uk.transport...

FUS
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Wikipedia: the Internet equivalent of
Hyde Park and 'speakers corner'...

Ray Haddad - 23 Aug 2008 23:20 GMT
>>>> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 14:24:12 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any
>>>> card"
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>trains but models so it's probably even off topic for the uk.railway
>group never mind uk.transport...

It's still transport whether or not you model it or photograph the
real thing. Trains, buses and all sorts of wheeled conveyance fit
into the category of transport. Deal.
--
Ray
Jerry - 23 Aug 2008 23:57 GMT
>>> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:40:11 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any
>>> card"
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> real thing. Trains, buses and all sorts of wheeled conveyance fit
> into the category of transport. Deal.

Not on Usenet through, if your 'logic' was correct anything could be
discussed in any group, such as some plonker trying to discuss the new
road junction on the A1 near 'Anytown' in the uk.d-i-y group just
because the OP was driving to B&Q....

Now, can everyone kindly let the thread die, *please*.

FUS
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Ray Haddad - 24 Aug 2008 00:01 GMT
>>>> On Sat, 23 Aug 2008 18:40:11 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any
>>>> card"
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
>
>Now, can everyone kindly let the thread die, *please*.

You first.
--
Ray
Steve Caple - 23 Aug 2008 18:24 GMT
>>> A person such as yourself should remain silent on a newsgroup and be
>>> thought a fool rather than type and remove all doubt.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Look it up.

Ray, please don't bother the foul mouthed limey Steve; he's palpitating
with expectation, fear and repressed memories now that his wicked Uncle
Gary Glitter is coming home.  Or maybe he's ust worried about Gary poaching
his rent boy chicken flock.

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Steve

Ray Haddad - 23 Aug 2008 18:55 GMT
>>>> A person such as yourself should remain silent on a newsgroup and be
>>>> thought a fool rather than type and remove all doubt.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>Gary Glitter is coming home.  Or maybe he's ust worried about Gary poaching
>his rent boy chicken flock.

He's MY chewtoy. Back off. Go find your own, mate.
--
Ray
Steve Caple - 24 Aug 2008 09:07 GMT
> He's MY chewtoy. Back off. Go find your own, mate.

Have atcha, and feel welcome to whatever perverse enjoyment it provides.

Signature

Steve

Ray Haddad - 24 Aug 2008 09:39 GMT
>> He's MY chewtoy. Back off. Go find your own, mate.
>
>Have atcha, and feel welcome to whatever perverse enjoyment it provides.

I trimmed off the other newsgroups. It's not as much fun this way.
--
Ray
Twibil - 23 Aug 2008 05:23 GMT
> (sotto voce - are all the morons who play with toy trains really as dumb
> as this one?)

*I* play with trains, and when they last ran me through the Stanford-
Binet I.Q. tests I scored 168.

And you? <Choke, snicker, giggle, snort, guffaw, chuckle...>

(Oh yeah, I forgot; I play with thesauri, too.)

-Pete
Mike P - 23 Aug 2008 08:57 GMT
On Aug 22, 4:37 pm, %ste...@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:

> (sotto voce - are all the morons who play with toy trains really as dumb
> as this one?)

>*I* play with trains, and when they last ran me through the Stanford-
>Binet I.Q. tests I scored 168.

It means you can do an IQ test,  but it doesn't mean you can function and
communicate in the real world. I know some seriously *odd* people with
*very* high IQs.

The very fact you are boasting about it on usenet makes me think you might
just be the sort of person I'm thinking about...

Mike P
Twibil - 23 Aug 2008 21:55 GMT
> >*I* play with trains, and when they last ran me through the Stanford-
> >Binet I.Q. tests I scored 168.
>
> It means you can do an IQ test,  but it doesn't mean you can function and
> communicate in the real world.

Okay, let's see about those, shall we?

Functions to date: successful (A) instructor at the University of
California, (B) musician, (C) luthier, (D) graphic artist, (E) live
music radio show host, (F) investor.

Communications: Successful freelance *and* technical writer. See also
"musician" and "graphic artist", above.

Retired at age 56 to my hilltop home where I do pretty much exactly
what I want to do, all day and every day.

So you were saying?

> I know some seriously *odd* people with
> *very* high IQs.

"Odd* in this context simply means that you don't understand why they
do what they do. And this is not surprising.

> The very fact you are boasting about it on usenet makes me think you might
> just be the sort of person I'm thinking about...

Sorry, but "boasting" is unprovoked egoboo. I was simply replying
factually to the poster who was trying to be clever by suggesting that
model railroaders are universally dumb.

He deserved to be brought to Earth with a little dose of reality, and
I gladly provided it for him; just as I did with you.

Deal.

-Pete
Conor - 23 Aug 2008 23:07 GMT
In article <e915744f-9d66-4a2c-96f7-97db6a2afad4
@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, Twibil says...

> > >*I* play with trains, and when they last ran me through the Stanford-
> > >Binet I.Q. tests I scored 168.
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Functions to date: successful (A) instructor at the University of
> California,

I'm a truck driver. I've also been an instructor.

> (B) musician,

I'm a truck driver, I've also been a musician. Got Royal School of
Music Grade 8 in Trumpet. Can play pretty much any brass instrument put
in front of me with the exception of trombone. Can play piano a little
but my technique sucks.

> (C) luthier,

You don't need to be able to function in the real world to do that. You
can do that sat all on your lonesome in the workshop at the end of your
garden.

> (D) graphic artist,

My missus is a graphic artist. She didn't even complete secondary
school.

> (E) live
> music radio show host,

Don't need to be able to communicate to do that.

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Conor

I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
looking good either. - Scott Adams

Steve Caple - 24 Aug 2008 09:09 GMT
> Can play pretty much any brass instrument put
> in front of me with the exception of trombone.

Reminds me of that story about the octopus in the bar.

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Steve

Mike P - 24 Aug 2008 09:51 GMT
In article <e915744f-9d66-4a2c-96f7-97db6a2afad4
@w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, Twibil says...
> On Aug 23, 12:57 am, "Mike P" <priv...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Functions to date: successful (A) instructor at the University of
> California,

I'm a truck driver. I've also been an instructor.

> (B) musician,

I'm a truck driver, I've also been a musician. Got Royal School of
Music Grade 8 in Trumpet. Can play pretty much any brass instrument put
in front of me with the exception of trombone. Can play piano a little
but my technique sucks.

> (C) luthier,

You don't need to be able to function in the real world to do that. You
can do that sat all on your lonesome in the workshop at the end of your
garden.

> (D) graphic artist,

My missus is a graphic artist. She didn't even complete secondary
school.

> (E) live
> music radio show host,

Don't need to be able to communicate to do that.

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Conor

Thanks Conor, I couldn't be arsed to point out all that sort of stuff
myself.

Mike P

squashme@gmail.com - 24 Aug 2008 12:16 GMT
> In article <e915744f-9d66-4a2c-96f7-97db6a2afad4
> @w39g2000prb.googlegroups.com>, Twibil says...
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> in front of me with the exception of trombone. Can play piano a little
> but my technique sucks.

Ah, aren't you confusing the piano with the brass instruments here?
Just a sugg.
still a novice - 24 Aug 2008 09:52 GMT
>>> *I* play with trains, and when they last ran me through the Stanford-
>>> Binet I.Q. tests I scored 168.
[quoted text clipped - 30 lines]
> He deserved to be brought to Earth with a little dose of reality, and
> I gladly provided it for him; just as I did with you.

Didn't you serve me in McDonalds last week? LOL what a tosser...
Mike P - 24 Aug 2008 09:59 GMT
On Aug 23, 12:57 am, "Mike P" <priv...@privacy.net> wrote:

> >*I* play with trains, and when they last ran me through the Stanford-
> >Binet I.Q. tests I scored 168.
>
> It means you can do an IQ test, but it doesn't mean you can function and
> communicate in the real world.

Okay, let's see about those, shall we?

>Functions to date: successful (A) instructor at the University of
>California, (B) musician, (C) luthier, (D) graphic artist, (E) live
>music radio show host, (F) investor.

So what? Well done on you. I notice you don't really need to communicate to
do any of them though.

I could list my own similar achievements, but then I'd just sound like I was
disappearing up my own arse wouldn't I?

>Communications: Successful freelance *and* technical writer. See also
>"musician" and "graphic artist", above.

>Retired at age 56 to my hilltop home where I do pretty much exactly
>what I want to do, all day and every day.

>So you were saying?

> I know some seriously *odd* people with
> *very* high IQs.

>"Odd* in this context simply means that you don't understand why they
>do what they do. And this is not surprising.

Actually, having qualified parents and partners who work in Psychiatry, I've
got a far better idea of why people do things than I suspect you have.

> The very fact you are boasting about it on usenet makes me think you might
> just be the sort of person I'm thinking about...

>Sorry, but "boasting" is unprovoked egoboo. I was simply replying
>factually to the poster who was trying to be clever by suggesting that
>model railroaders are universally dumb.

No, you were boasting. You could have simply said "we're not all dumb".  I
never said you were all dumb, that was Steve, I merely pointed out that
having a high IQ does not neccessarily give you any common sense or
perception of the real world. You're the one that got all defensive

>He deserved to be brought to Earth with a little dose of reality, and
>I gladly provided it for him; just as I did with you.

No, what you've done is prove my point *totally*. Thanks!

Mike P
Steve Firth - 23 Aug 2008 11:37 GMT
> > (sotto voce - are all the morons who play with toy trains really as dumb
> > as this one?)
>
> *I* play with trains,

I didn't need to be told.

> and when they last ran me through the Stanford-
> Binet I.Q. tests I scored 168.

And yet you still have an enormous chip on your shoulder, failed
academically and have a crap job.[1] Why is this?

Anyway, I'm Emperor of the Universe, Slayer of the Unrighteous, I have
an IQ of a million and a jewel studded pleasure dome that I inherited
from my great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-
great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-
great-great-great-great-great-great-grandfather Kubilai. My sh.t smells
of roses and each day I am worshipped by two hundred vestal virgins who
are simply vestals come 12.30pm.

Which is about as believeable as the crap you spouted.

[1] Otherwise you'd be boasting about your qualifications and your job,
since you're one of those sad f.ckers who think that self-certification
of 'achievement' matters a f.ck on Usenet.
Twibil - 23 Aug 2008 22:03 GMT
> > > (sotto voce - are all the morons who play with toy trains really as dumb
> > > as this one?)
>
> > *I* play with trains,
>
> I didn't need to be told.

So you claim to be a mind reader? How fascinating!

> > and when they last ran me through the Stanford-
> > Binet I.Q. tests I scored 168.
>
> And yet you still have an enormous chip on your shoulder, failed
> academically and have a crap job.[1] Why is this?

It isn't. See my reply to Mike P.

> Which is about as believeable as the crap you spouted.

Shrug. Truth is truth. If you don't care to deal with it, I suggest
you stop insulting entire categories of people; some of whom in any
large group are almost certain to be a lot smarter than you are. And
better able to express it, as well.

> [1] Otherwise you'd be boasting about your qualifications and your job,
> since you're one of those sad f.ckers who think that self-certification
> of 'achievement' matters a f.ck on Usenet.

Ah. So what *does* matter on Usenet? The ability to make a snide and
stupid comment and then get pissed off when you're hoist by your own
petard?

Wonderful.
Steve Firth - 23 Aug 2008 22:20 GMT
> > > > (sotto voce - are all the morons who play with toy trains really as dumb
> > > > as this one?)
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> So you claim to be a mind reader? How fascinating!

No, I don't need to be a mind reader, you've shown classical signs of
retarded development in your chldish need to boast. It's therefore
obvious that of the cross-posted groups you are most likely to belong to
the one for children of all ages.

> > > and when they last ran me through the Stanford-
> > > Binet I.Q. tests I scored 168.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> It isn't. See my reply to Mike P.

"It isn't" makes no grammatical sense as a response to the point to
which you appear to be attempting to formulate a coherent reply, and
failing, Mr "168 IQ" insecure chip merchant.

> > Which is about as believeable as the crap you spouted.
>
> Shrug. Truth is truth. If you don't care to deal with it, I suggest
> you stop insulting entire categories of people; some of whom in any
> large group are almost certain to be a lot smarter than you are. And
> better able to express it, as well.

<yawn> Sorry dozed off there in the middle of the smug, palpably
erroneous, crap.

> > [1] Otherwise you'd be boasting about your qualifications and your job,
> > since you're one of those sad f.ckers who think that self-certification
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> stupid comment and then get pissed off when you're hoist by your own
> petard?

The only thing that can matter is how one reacts to one's peers. And
you're not doing very well in that respect all. You seem to think that
telling people what you are, rather than demonstrating it cuts the ice.
It doesn't even cut the butter.

Stay in your playpen with the other children, you'll be so much happier.
northmb@googlemail.com - 06 Sep 2008 13:47 GMT
> > (sotto voce - are all the morons who play with toy trains really as dumb
> > as this one?)
>
> *I* play with trains, and when they last ran me through the Stanford-
> BinetI.Q.tests I scored168.

"They" being who, exactly? Mensa? TNS? An independent cognitive
psychologist? Or The Usenet Troll School of Self-Declared Makey-Uppy
Qualifications?

It's a pretty unremarkable score but I'd still like to see if you can
back up the claim. Who conducted the test and when?

Please scan the certificate or letter confirming the result and post a
link here. It shouldn't be beyond the capabilities of such a talented
man.
Steve Firth - 06 Sep 2008 14:16 GMT
> "They" being who, exactly? Mensa? TNS? An independent cognitive
> psychologist? Or The Usenet Troll School of Self-Declared Makey-Uppy
> Qualifications?

You need to ask? The most significant achievements of "Twibil The Big
Giant Brain" are to construct things from matchsticks and to play with
toy trains. Making up IQ scores or repeating what he was told by the
Scientologists is hardly unusual behaviour for the self-deluded.
Jane Sullivan - 10 Sep 2008 10:04 GMT
In message
<db974d09-ce33-4811-8a39-f3c903d66d3e@w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>,
northmb@googlemail.com writes

>> > (sotto voce - are all the morons who play with toy trains really as dumb
>> > as this one?)
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>link here. It shouldn't be beyond the capabilities of such a talented
>man.

All IQ tests do is show your ability to do IQ tests.

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Jane Sullivan - 10 Sep 2008 10:32 GMT
In message
<175b4d59-9409-4858-9e07-46f4d764e3ae@b2g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
Twibil <jose.noway6@gmail.com> writes

>> (sotto voce - are all the morons who play with toy trains really as dumb
>> as this one?)
>
>*I* play with trains, and when they last ran me through the Stanford-
>Binet I.Q. tests I scored 168.

All that shows is that you can score 168 on the Stanford-Binet IQ test.
It says nothing about your intelligence.

>And you? <Choke, snicker, giggle, snort, guffaw, chuckle...>
>
>(Oh yeah, I forgot; I play with thesauri, too.)
>
>-Pete

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Ray Haddad - 10 Sep 2008 12:07 GMT
On Wed, 10 Sep 2008 10:32:45 +0100, I said, "Pick a card, any card"
and Jane Sullivan <spamtrap@yddraiggoch.demon.co.uk> instead
replied:

>In message
><175b4d59-9409-4858-9e07-46f4d764e3ae@b2g2000prf.googlegroups.com>,
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>All that shows is that you can score 168 on the Stanford-Binet IQ test.
>It says nothing about your intelligence.

Perhaps you didn't write that exactly right. I kind of like it,
though. It must have a fair few scratching their heads.
--
Ray
Steve Caple - 22 Aug 2008 17:10 GMT
> I'll stand on the side of D H Lawrence, James Joyce and Shakespeare.

Oh?  Well to the rear, obviously.

PS  -  look up "chutzpah"

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Steve Firth - 22 Aug 2008 17:32 GMT
> > I'll stand on the side of D H Lawrence, James Joyce and Shakespeare.
>
> Oh?  Well to the rear, obviously.

Leave your sexual preferences out of this.

> PS  -  look up "chutzpah"

It's defined here: http://tinyurl.com/2y37an
Wolf Kirchmeir - 22 Aug 2008 17:34 GMT
>>  never mind, there's morons and people who can't express themselves
>> without the use of profanity everywhere.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> ObScenity: f.ck.

You are no D H Lawrence, stille less a Shakespeare.

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Steve Firth - 22 Aug 2008 17:47 GMT
> You are no D H Lawrence,

"c.nt" -- D H Lawrence.

> stille less a Shakespeare.

Thou art eken unto a Mollie's tizwoz.
Steve Firth - 22 Aug 2008 09:10 GMT
> "Steve Firth"
>
> > Who the f.ck are you and what has this crap to do with transport?
>
> Nice language Steve.  Was it necessary?

Abso f.cking lutely.

Why, have you got a problem with it minge face?
Alex Barrow - 21 Aug 2008 22:15 GMT
>> Regular readers will remember that I promised you all a BIG one.
>
> Who the f.ck are you and what has this crap to do with transport?

Mike is a taxi driver knobhead ! i think thats transport isnt it?

Mike, is the kettle boiled much these days?
Mike Hughes - 22 Aug 2008 12:33 GMT
>>> Regular readers will remember that I promised you all a BIG one.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Mike, is the kettle boiled much these days?

No need to do that in London as it's nearly always on the boil. I still
have a small flame going on a burner in Brighton which does get the
kettle up to boiling point every so often :-))

(a bit of an 'in' joke amongst taxi drivers, particularly in Brighton)

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nightjar - 21 Aug 2008 22:32 GMT
>> Regular readers will remember that I promised you all a BIG one.
>
> Who the f.ck are you and what has this crap to do with transport?

Well, he is a taxi driver, so it is more nearly on topic in uk.transport
than most of Doug's posts.

Colin Bignell
Rob - 22 Aug 2008 00:31 GMT
How about
"c.nt"?
Dragon Heart - 22 Aug 2008 01:49 GMT
Having experienced similar comments & remarks about some of my posts
on other groups & forums I was in two minds about getting involved in
this but :-

1)    Mike,  I am sure,  does not need me or anyone else to fight his
corner for him

2)    If you don't like Mike and / or his posts why read them ?  He is
however a regular contributor to the group.

3)    To me Mikes posts and his website take a slightly different slant
on the 'normal' model rail site.  Different in a good way.

4)    His posts are a bit of harmless fun .... the man has a sense of
humour ..... not to some peoples liking but !

5)    Do the people think for one moment their use of profanity will stop
Mike posting in the future ?

Chris

PS Happy 21st Birthday for the 25th Mike :-)
Steve Firth - 22 Aug 2008 09:10 GMT
> 2)    If you don't like Mike and / or his posts why read them ?  He is
> however a regular contributor to the group.

No he's not. Never seen him before. Nor you either.
Mike P - 22 Aug 2008 10:34 GMT
>> 2)    If you don't like Mike and / or his posts why read them ?  He is
>> however a regular contributor to the group.
>
> No he's not. Never seen him before. Nor you either.

Same here, no idea who the f.ck this f.cking man is and why the f.ck he's
f.cking posting to uk.transport.

;-)

Mike P
beamendsltd - 22 Aug 2008 10:55 GMT
> >> 2)    If you don't like Mike and / or his posts why read them ?  He is
> >> however a regular contributor to the group.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> Mike P

It's good to see the inhabitants of uk.transport are so well
informed, constructive and polite. Obvously the place to go
for info about UK transport. Not.

Cheers
Richard

(Help yourselves with abuse if you like, you've been killfiled)

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Mike P - 22 Aug 2008 10:58 GMT
>> >> 2)    If you don't like Mike and / or his posts why read them ?  He is
>> >> however a regular contributor to the group.
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> (Help yourselves with abuse if you like, you've been killfiled)

It appears the poster who killfiled (as if I care!) me has

a) not noticed the smiley
b) No sense of humour or sarcasm

Oh well, life goes on

Mike P
Steve Firth - 22 Aug 2008 11:09 GMT
> It appears the poster who killfiled (as if I care!) me has
>
> a) not noticed the smiley
> b) No sense of humour or sarcasm

c) Is one of those people who idolise Dr. Bowdler[1].

Pee, Po, Belly, Bum, Drawers.

[1] AKA "morons".
novice - 22 Aug 2008 16:04 GMT
>>>> 2)    If you don't like Mike and / or his posts why read them ?  He is
>>>> however a regular contributor to the group.
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> (Help yourselves with abuse if you like, you've been killfiled)

Well since you've killfiled him, I'll reply on his behalf.
If you dont f.cking like it, why the f.ck not f.ck off somewhere f.cking 
else, you retarded f.ck? No, dont thank me. Its a public service :)
BrianW - 22 Aug 2008 16:17 GMT
> > In message <6h7fgvFjhld...@mid.individual.net>
>
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> If you dont f.cking like it, why the f.ck not f.ck off somewhere f.cking
> else, you retarded f.ck? No, dont thank me. Its a public service :)-

I say, could you moderate your flipping language, you blooming naughty
so and so.
Steve Firth - 22 Aug 2008 16:24 GMT
> Well since you've killfiled him, I'll reply on his behalf.
> If you dont f.cking like it, why the f.ck not f.ck off somewhere f.cking
> else, you retarded f.ck? No, dont thank me. Its a public service :)

PS. Insulting flame to follow.
beamendsltd - 22 Aug 2008 17:25 GMT
> >>>> 2)    If you don't like Mike and / or his posts why read them ?  He is
> >>>> however a regular contributor to the group.
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> If you dont f.cking like it, why the f.ck not f.ck off somewhere f.cking 
> else, you retarded f.ck? No, dont thank me. Its a public service :)

And that's supposed to impress? Gosh.....

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Dragon Heart - 26 Aug 2008 22:22 GMT
> > 2)    If you don't like Mike and / or his posts why read them ?  He is
> > however a regular contributor to the group.
>
> No he's not. Never seen him before. Nor you either.

Got it now .... you're a TROLL !

I found this description of one of these strange, to me, creatures :-

" If you've spent any time in chat rooms, bulletin boards or posting
on Usenet you may have already come across one of these troublesome
creatures.

Often suffering from a mutant strain of compulsive posting disorder, a
troll's basic mission in life is to mischievously manufacture
inflammatory opinions in an attempt to stir up disharmony and
discord.

The most common breed of troll seeks attention by enthusiastically
posting up a stream of drivel or by being clumsily provocative.
Ignore them. The worst thing you can do is to try and engage them in
rational debate as this only encourages them to hang around.

And once they find themselves the centre of attention, they inevitably
become more and more 'controversial' before building up to a crescendo
of abuse, followed by a theatrical flounce.

But these are mere bagatelle compared to the Nasty Troll. Like an
unruly two year old in a perpetual temper tantrum, these destructive
keyboard bullies want to break everything and spoil everyone's fun.
A Nasty Troll has no redeeming features whatsoever and they'll employ
every dirty-no-good trick in the book in their tedious quest to wreck
an online community.

This usually includes hurling around oceans of gratuitous abuse and
defamatory comments, all delivered via a range of anonymous identities
- with a few forged ones thrown in for good measure.

Sharp eyed bulletin board editors can usually ban 'bad bwoy' trolls
before they can cause too much trouble, but on unmoderated newsgroups
the damage can be terminal, with some communities giving up in the
face of relentless attacks
Although an audacious and cunning troll can sometimes earn the
begrudging respect of its target audience, such levels of
sophistication are rarer than a Swansea City goal, and for most people
trolls are an irritation they could live without. "

Kind regards

Chris
Twibil - 27 Aug 2008 04:19 GMT
> Got it now .... you're a TROLL !
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> on Usenet you may have already come across one of these troublesome
> creatures. (SNIP)

There's an entire website devoted to the species and all it's
variations:

http://redwing.hutman.net/~mreed/

Enjoy.

-Pete
Brian Robertson - 22 Aug 2008 10:33 GMT
> Having experienced similar comments & remarks about some of my posts
> on other groups & forums I was in two minds about getting involved in
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>
> PS Happy 21st Birthday for the 25th Mike :-)

He can't be the brightest of people though if he thinks that his
pictures are going to draw anything but profanity when he cross posts to
uk.transport.

Brian.
Mike Hughes - 22 Aug 2008 12:38 GMT
In message
<5a648cf6-8747-4963-a0e3-56281de70976@d1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,
Dragon Heart <chris_brett@tesco.net> writes
>Having experienced similar comments & remarks about some of my posts
>on other groups & forums I was in two minds about getting involved in
>this but :-
>
>1)     Mike,  I am sure,  does not need me or anyone else to fight his
>corner for him

Absolutely right

>2)     If you don't like Mike and / or his posts why read them ?  He is
>however a regular contributor to the group.

Agreed again

>3)     To me Mikes posts and his website take a slightly different slant
>on the 'normal' model rail site.  Different in a good way.

Thanks for the vote of confidence.

>4)     His posts are a bit of harmless fun .... the man has a sense of
>humour ..... not to some peoples liking but !

Unfortunately there are some people who do not seem to have a sense of
humour <assumes Catherine Tait voice> "Do I care?" :-))

>5)     Do the people think for one moment their use of profanity will stop
>Mike posting in the future ?

Spot on - and I don't need to be profane as I'd like to think that I
have a bit more intelligence than that. <stands back and waits for
profane rather than reasoned replies>
>Chris
>
>PS Happy 21st Birthday for the 25th Mike :-)

Thanks very much, except I have to another 40 to that figure - and I'm
going to work on that day!

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Crest Hill, Illinois - 22 Aug 2008 02:48 GMT
> Regular readers will remember that I promised you all a BIG one.
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Deanstown layouts are at Firle Village hall, East Sussex on Monday 25th
> August (which just happens to be my birthday!!)

How do I turn this bloody thing off?

Wow, look at this weird train.
beamendsltd - 22 Aug 2008 08:29 GMT
> Regular readers will remember that I promised you all a BIG one.
>
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> Deanstown layouts are at Firle Village hall, East Sussex on Monday 25th
> August (which just happens to be my birthday!!)

"After a mix up with sugar while making the tea, Mike is only
allowed remote access to the layout from a safe distance for his
own protection."

Cheers
Richard

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Random Excess - 22 Aug 2008 18:13 GMT
>Regular readers will remember that I promised you all a BIG one.
>
>At last I've managed to sum up the courage to publish this photo. Some
>say you will need a sick bag to view this one - and they are just the
>kind ones! Here it is
>http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/p52922253.html

 Dad gum, man.  You make me look like Adonis.

 TAXI !

Tejas Pedro
google@sheerstock.fsnet.co.uk - 25 Aug 2008 11:37 GMT
> Regular readers will remember that I promised you all a BIG one.
>
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> photos of our members (and visitors) I must now stand in the firing line
> myself. So this is the next 'caption competition'.

Staff of the Natural History Museum investigate claims that "the
missing link" has been found alive in uk.transport. A spokesman said
"There may even be a number of adults and juveniles in some kind of
social or family group. The really exciting news is that they posses
what we would recognise as rudimentary language skills. It seems they
must have had contact with higher humans sometime during the Anglo-
Saxon period but then withdrew into the denser forested areas. They
obviously do not have the brain capacity to develop the language
further. It seems that the ongoing march of development, possibly
linked with global warming, has brought them out into the open again".
 
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