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Setting the Record *REALLY* Straight

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Kirsten (Lunde) aka mcgaelicgal - 18 Oct 2008 00:50 GMT
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****Frank A. Rosenbaum    Apr 13 1999, 3:00 am

Let me tell you a story. Along time ago, in a city called Beacon,
there lived a store called Hobbies for Men. This was a big store, that
ordered lots and lots of train stuff. At some point in the life of
this store, some one ordered a lot of Magnuson kits. When the invoice
came, it was either ignored, or thrown out, or there wasn't enough
money to pay it. Magnuson needed the money to survive (don't we all?)
and Walthers loaned them the money that was needed.  Some time later,
Hobbies for Men was shut down for many reasons that the sheriff posted
on the door. Magnuson got in line to collect on the invoice, but
didn't get enough to repay Walthers. Magnuson defaulted on the loan,
so Walthers ended up with the rights to Magnuson Models.

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****BondoBill1          Apr 14 1999, 3:00 am

All wrong Frank..sorry. About a year after Bob Lunde named a building
after me, HFM found out they were short on cash and could not
continue. MM took a little road trip, visiting both Magnuson, and PFM.
In both cases, MM bought up the entire stock of both companies and
then in his full page ads, listed PFM engines and Mangnuson kits to
the public at prices much, much lower directly to the public, than
stores could buy it for, and some kits were offered to the public ,
BELOW distributor prices. Within a month of the ads appearing all
orders from stores and  distributors stopped...Magnuson was boycotted
by the entire retail level, as was PFM. Almost a year later, Magnuson
came up with the styrene kit idea.using a new  molding technique and
moving away from resin kits. That innovation was what the hobby
needed. Sadly, MM did not have the casf flow to produce these new
kits, so they approached Walthers for a loan against opening orders. I
used to do that, I would need say $20,000 and I would offer Phil,
hrough Bill Wischer a deal, another 10 to 15% off of DN if they sent
me money. Walthers did give MM upfront money, but for some reasons not
made public, and infact, without rumors, they could not meet the
initial order. To bail MM out, WKW not only bought the MM line, but
offered both Bob and his Wife JOBS.....very positive move...****

ALL WRONG, BILL, SORRY!  (And yes, Frank, you too.)

First of all, allow me to introduce myself:  my name is Kirsten - as
in Kirsten's Corner Cafe - Bob & Lynn's daughter.  I was wandering
around the hobby area of Google's news groups and stumbled upon this.
I nearly choked.  Now, I realize this thread is nearly 10 years old,
but NEITHER post contains enough TRUTH or FACT to fill an N Scale
boxcar!  I simply could not and will not let it slide.  (Where *did*
you guys get your information?!)

Yes, this is just a news group, but - as evidenced by folks thanking
Bill for "setting the record straight" - people will take what they
read as gospel, whether or not it contains an iota of truth.  Alas,
news groups offer the perfect venue for folks to hold forth on topics
they really know very little about.  ;-p

In fact, I was amused/shocked/miffed enough to call my folks.  They
will be posting at some point over the next several days with actual
information; not hearsay, rumors and fairy tales.  (They're a pretty
swamped right now with Lunde Studios, but they, too, feel strongly
enough about the wild tales spun here to speak up.)

Yes, that's right.  You'll be getting the TRUE HISTORY from the
horses' mouths.  :D

Sláinte ~ Kirsten (Lunde) McAdam (as in Lunde Studios' McAdam
Building)

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greenkite9@yahoo.com - 27 Oct 2008 20:04 GMT
On Oct 17, 6:50 pm, "Kirsten (Lunde) aka mcgaelicgal"
<mcgaelic...@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> (Original thread:http://groups.google.com/group/rec.models.railroad/browse_thread/thre...)

THE TRUE HISTORY OF THE SALE OF MAGNUSON MODELS.....from the horse's
(Lynn Magnuson Lunde's) mouth.
(Shall I whinny here?  Maybe I'll just say "neigh" to what's been said
on this subject.  Grrroaannn....I've been living with Lunde too
long.)

First, before the history, I need to say that  "Walthers is out of
their ...minds" was not the title of Kirsten's post, Bill.  That was
from someone else's earlier post.  You asked in your email what
bothered her. Possiby the incorrect "myths" being touted as fact and
how the stories make her parents sound stupid and inept?

Now....Here comes the history lesson.....
Unlike many other maufacturers, Magnuson Models stopped selling to HFM
when the latter's payments slowed to 90 days.  When they were fully
paid up with us, we cut them off.  We could see the proverbial
graffiti.  We did not get stuck with unpaid HFM invoices.  Mike Meilhe
(sp?) never came out to see us.  They never bought our entire
inventory.  Perhaps some retail stores stopped carrying Magnuson when
our products showed up in HFM ads; we heard some rumors to that
effect.  But we were selling to all the same distributors right up to
the time we sold to Walthers BY CHOICE.   Magnuson Models did not
borrow money from Walthers or anyone else.  We were not making a lot
of money, but we were always solvent and self-sustaining.  We produced
several of the styrene kits out of our own cash flow and called them
"The Century Series".

At the time that we sold - I repeat, BY CHOICE - to Walthers, there
was only one outstanding invoice ($500) remaining unpaid (as it
remains to this day), and it was owed to us by another manufacturer.
Perhaps you remember who I mean, Bill.

Why did we sell to Walthers?  Two events occurred in a very short time
span.  Bruce Walthers said to me at a trade show that he was impressed
with the innovations in our lines, that he'd like to see all the
warmth and activity in their booth that he could see in ours and that
he was thinking he ought to make an offer for Magnuson if Bob and I
would come to Milwaukee with it.  We just chatted then, and no more
was said on the subject.  Not long after that, my dad was diagnosed
with lung cancer, as well as heart and kidney disease.  Bob and I
wanted my parents to be repaid the remaining portion of their
investment in Magnuson asap and to be free of business concerns for
their remaining time together.  So we decided to contact Bruce to see
what he had in mind.  The entire transaction went smoothly and was win-
win.

Why did Bob leave Walthers?    He needed more freedom to create what
he wanted to create.  His dream became Design Preservation Models.
(Bob signed an agreement not to produce open mold polyester kits, but
he was free to do injection molded styrene.)  I followed a couple of
years later when DPM grew to the stage of needing me.

That's the end of that story, and I'd like it to be the end of my
involvement with this "string".  (I'm pretty sure Kirsten feels the
same way.)  I have no bad feelings toward anyone here.  And I have
MANY happy memories of those times.  Say hi to Ellen for me, Bill, and
let's let this go......
Lynn
Frank A.  Rosenbaum - 28 Oct 2008 06:29 GMT
That's the end of that story, and I'd like it to be the end of my
involvement with this "string".  (I'm pretty sure Kirsten feels the
same way.)  I have no bad feelings toward anyone here.  And I have
MANY happy memories of those times.  Say hi to Ellen for me, Bill, and
let's let this go......
Lynn

My apologies, Lynn. I am sorry that I had my facts wrong, and I appreciate
hearing the correct story.

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Frank Rosenbaum
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