Bill McCutcheon said this on 2/16/2009 3:33 PM:
>> Okay, in real life I understand the top of the rail has a crown on it, and
>> the wheels are tapered and I understand the physics of why, but is any of
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> -- Bill McCutcheon
I'm going to step out on a limb then. There was a long thread here
about track cleaners, and I read up on the concept via some google
searches, and found some cars that seemed to be an abrasive cleaner.
Not harsh, but all the same. So wouldn't that take the crown of the
top of the rails after a good time? I guess a cloth pad type cleaner
would be better then?
Wolf K - 16 Feb 2009 21:59 GMT
> Bill McCutcheon said this on 2/16/2009 3:33 PM:
>>> Okay, in real life I understand the top of the rail has a crown on
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> the rails after a good time? I guess a cloth pad type cleaner would
> be better then?
Relevant anecdote:
In North Bay, Ontario, there is a motel called the Pinewood. It has a
nice display layout (about 15ft x 5ft) in a glassed-in cabinet located
in the hallway between the main building and the event rooms. You push a
button, and the trains run for about 5 minutes. Just about everybody
that walks by pushes that button. ;-) I estimate that the trains run an
average of 4 hours, perhaps more, each day.
The local MRR club maintains it. I chatted with them about maintenance.
They told me
a) that the track in the end curves had to be replaced after about 10
years because the railhead had worn down to the web;
b) that wheels occasionally have to be replaced because the tread has
worn to a concave profile;
c) that there is a wide variation in durability of motors and gear
trains, with Kato and Kato-built Atlas at the top of the list, and
Chinese-built Atlas and Proto 2000 a distant second. They hadn't run
ancient Athearn in a long time, but they were tough as a Mack truck.
Worth a visit. The dining room offers has very good food, too. ;-)
HTH
wolf k.
Bill McCutcheon - 17 Feb 2009 20:51 GMT
> Bill McCutcheon said this on 2/16/2009 3:33 PM:
>>> Okay, in real life I understand the top of the rail has a crown on it,
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> the same. So wouldn't that take the crown of the top of the rails after
> a good time? I guess a cloth pad type cleaner would be better then?
Nothing lasts forever. Everything wears out eventually. As Wolf K. points
out, years of running (and cleaning) will wear out track and wheels. This
applies to motors, lights, power supplies, and everything else. If you're
lucky, most of it will outlive you, though. :-)
-- Bill McC.
Klaus D. Mikkelsen - 17 Feb 2009 21:00 GMT
> I'm going to step out on a limb then. There was a long thread here
> about track cleaners, and I read up on the concept via some google
> searches, and found some cars that seemed to be an abrasive cleaner.
> Not harsh, but all the same. So wouldn't that take the crown of the
> top of the rails after a good time?
No fluid cleaners for My rails - thanks.
On "my" layout we have been running with Eoco clean cars for 13 years
now in very intensive traffic. 6 cleaning cars is running every opening
day (thats more than 100 days per year). Despite the cleaning cars are
"rubing" the tracks, we see no wear of the rail.
Klaus

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Erik Olsen - 18 Feb 2009 18:50 GMT
> No fluid cleaners for My rails - thanks.
>
> On "my" layout we have been running with Eoco clean cars for 13 years
> now in very intensive traffic. 6 cleaning cars is running every
> opening day (thats more than 100 days per year). Despite the cleaning
> cars are "rubing" the tracks, we see no wear of the rail.
Perhaps you need new glasses?

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Klaus D. Mikkelsen - 18 Feb 2009 19:28 GMT
> Perhaps you need new glasses?
Nope. You are more than welcome to come and have a look....
Klaus

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Erik Olsen - 18 Feb 2009 19:41 GMT
>> Perhaps you need new glasses?
>
> Nope. You are more than welcome to come and have a look....
I have seen track worn down by use, not cleaning, as the wear was mostly
on the inside of the head of the outside rail in curves. It was O gauge
brass rail, the oldest rail about 50 years old then, and the layout was
run about once a week for three hours. The rail on that layout was not
cleaned by abrasive means at all, only by using cleaning fluid on a
piece of cloth.

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Greg.Procter - 18 Feb 2009 20:15 GMT
>>> Perhaps you need new glasses?
>>
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> cleaned by abrasive means at all, only by using cleaning fluid on a
> piece of cloth.
Titanium coated magnesium/steel wears very slowly in Z scale!
;-)
Greg.P.
Roe Thomas - 22 Feb 2009 08:50 GMT
> I have seen track worn down by use, not cleaning, as the wear was mostly
> on the inside of the head of the outside rail in curves. It was O gauge
> brass rail, the oldest rail about 50 years old then, and the layout was
> run about once a week for three hours. The rail on that layout was not
> cleaned by abrasive means at all, only by using cleaning fluid on a
> piece of cloth.
Don't think I'll need to spend much time worrying about that. My DOB
18 Nov. 1933. Roe