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Modelling The Recession/Depression.

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Twibil - 24 Feb 2009 22:29 GMT
Business is way down on the railroads, but it was brought home to me
just *how far* down when I drove past Union Pacific's West Colton
Yards on my way into L.A. this AM.

Parked along one of the tracks were 124 dead-lined diesel units
coupled nose-to-tail; 121 of them U.P. units ranging from old and beat-
up to reasonably new and clean, plus three of the old grey and scarlet
S.P. units that U.P. somehow never quite got around to painting
yellow. All told; well over a mile's worth of dead locos.

Wonderful modelling opportunity for a locomotive collector who models
the Union Pacific, but sort of depressing when you realise that all of
those units were hard at work as little as a year ago.

~Pete
David Nebenzahl - 24 Feb 2009 23:04 GMT
On 2/24/2009 2:29 PM Twibil spake thus:

> Business is way down on the railroads, but it was brought home to me
> just *how far* down when I drove past Union Pacific's West Colton
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> S.P. units that U.P. somehow never quite got around to painting
> yellow. All told; well over a mile's worth of dead locos.

Pictures, pleeze? (I know--you were on your bike, didn't have your
camera, etc. Maybe next time?)

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Twibil - 25 Feb 2009 00:49 GMT
> On 2/24/2009 2:29 PM Twibil spake thus:
>
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> Pictures, pleeze? (I know--you were on your bike, didn't have your
> camera, etc. Maybe next time?)

(Grin.)

Actually, I was in my cage (biker slang for any enclosed vehicle) on a
business jaunt, but no, I didn't have a camera with me, nor am I sure
it would have done you much good if I had.

I mean, how in the heck *does one* take a still picture of a mile-long
diesel lash-up, anyway?  Perhaps a *really* long telephoto lens
looking down the length of the tracks?

In any case, my U.P. info source claims that they're going to be
parked there until business either picks up or U.P. decides to junk
'em and take the tax writeoff, so they'll probably be there for a
while yet. (He also told me that there are similar deadlines at U.P.
yards in at least two other locations in addition to West Colton. This
does not bode well.)

~Pete
Robert Heller - 25 Feb 2009 01:39 GMT
> > On 2/24/2009 2:29 PM Twibil spake thus:
> >
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> diesel lash-up, anyway?  Perhaps a *really* long telephoto lens
> looking down the length of the tracks?

You many take successive pictures and mosaic them together.  Or maybe just
a 'sample' set of pictures.  Eg a bit of photographic selective
compression...

> In any case, my U.P. info source claims that they're going to be
> parked there until business either picks up or U.P. decides to junk
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> ~Pete
>      

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Twibil - 25 Feb 2009 01:47 GMT
> > I mean, how in the heck *does one* take a still picture of a mile-long
> > diesel lash-up, anyway?  Perhaps a *really* long telephoto lens
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> a 'sample' set of pictures.  Eg a bit of photographic selective
> compression...

Difficult. There's a line of large trees between the freeway and the
yards, and the locos are blocked from view by railroad cars from the
other side.

Maybe rent an airplane?

~Pete
Rick Jones - 25 Feb 2009 04:04 GMT
>>> I mean, how in the heck *does one* take a still picture of a mile-long
>>> diesel lash-up, anyway?  Perhaps a *really* long telephoto lens
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> Maybe rent an airplane?

   The Colton yard is spanned in 3 or 4 places by road overpasses.
Surely one of those is close enough to the "mile long string of engines"
to get some reasonably decent shots, especially with a long focus lens.
   Of course, since we're still living under the pathological fear of
terrorists cultivated by the Busheviks, you gotta watch out for who
might be watching you.
   And who watches the Watchmen?

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Twibil - 25 Feb 2009 04:31 GMT
>     The Colton yard is spanned in 3 or 4 places by road overpasses.
> Surely one of those is close enough to the "mile long string of engines"
> to get some reasonably decent shots, especially with a long focus lens.

Yes and no. The string of engines is parked just east of the Sierra
Ave overcrossing and extends most of the way east to the Cedar
overcrossing, so pics from the Sierra bridge are possible.

But.

There's some question in my mind as to whether or not it's possible to
get enough side-angle on the string of locos to actually show how long
it is before the trees next to the freeeway get in the way.

>     Of course, since we're still living under the pathological fear of
> terrorists cultivated by the Busheviks, you gotta watch out for who
> might be watching you.

This is in south Fontana. Ever spent any time in south Fontana? It's a
tough and dirty burnt-out steel-mill town that went downhill steeply
after Kaiser closed the mill, and has never come back.

In short, seeing a cop in south Fontana is something to celebrate, not
to worry about; even if he's hasselling you -which is unlikely, as
they don't like getting out of their cars. What you worry about are
the ever-prolific gangs and the druggies who are always alert for
opportunities to profit by relieving others of their belongings, and,
on occasion, their lives.

>  And who watches the Watchmen?

Last time I looked, *WE* do.

If I get any spare time tomorrow I may repair out there anyway with a
200mm lens and my new Nikon D-60 DSLR and see if I can frame a shot or
two before someone frames *me*.

~Pete

P.S. Just checked on Google Earth: the sat-pics are too old to show
the string of locos, but do give you a good idea of where they're
located: just south of I-10, east of Sierra, and west of Cedar.
Rick Jones - 25 Feb 2009 04:58 GMT
>>     The Colton yard is spanned in 3 or 4 places by road overpasses.
>> Surely one of those is close enough to the "mile long string of engines"
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> tough and dirty burnt-out steel-mill town that went downhill steeply
> after Kaiser closed the mill, and has never come back.

   Yes, I have. I grew up in Anaheim and lived all around Orange County
in the following decades. I lived in Ontario from '94 until '02 when I
moved here to the Houston area. I worked at California Steel nee Kaiser
for a short period in '01 before I moved out of the area. That's why I
know of the roads offering photo op possibilities over the Colton yard.

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David Nebenzahl - 25 Feb 2009 01:51 GMT
On 2/24/2009 4:49 PM Twibil spake thus:

>> On 2/24/2009 2:29 PM Twibil spake thus:
>>
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> yards in at least two other locations in addition to West Colton. This
> does not bode well.)

Seriously, this needs to be documented. (Meaning, "I really wanna see
this!")

Someone needs to go out there with some serious gear. f.ck digital. I'm
talking about a large-format film camera with the right lens and a smart
photog behind it who knows where to position themselves to get a
spectacular shot.

This could be one of the seminal images of the Great Depression II.

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"If this stuff worked, you wouldn't need me".

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