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CHEETAH MOUNTS PROFESSIONAL DUAL CROSSBAR PLASMA LCD TV TILT WALL MOUNT FOR 32-60" DISPLAYS BLACK Price:$180.00 Image: http://bestdealfinder.us/image.php?id=B001JE3NE6 Best deal: http://bestdealfinder.us/index.php?id=B001JE3NE6
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Cheetah Mounts APTMM2S Tilt Wall Mount for 32"-55" Plasma and LCD TVs and Displays Price:$22.99 Image: http://bestdealfinder.us/image.php?id=B0012S16UW Best deal: http://bestdealfinder.us/index.php?id=B0012S16UW
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Steve Caple - 20 May 2009 07:47 GMT Overpriced, of unknown provenance, and who'd want to buy anything from a spam-spewing a.shole anyway?
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BleuRaeder@aol.com - 20 May 2009 08:10 GMT > Overpriced, of unknown provenance, and who'd want to buy anything from a > spam-spewing a.shole anyway? > > -- > �Steve Was there a message before this one that I didn't get ? or am I to guess who ?
LD - 20 May 2009 08:50 GMT > Overpriced, of unknown provenance, and who'd want to buy anything from a > spam-spewing a.shole anyway? > > -- > �Steve Was there a message before this one that I didn't get ? or am I to guess who ?
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You're supposed to ask if it is bigger than a bread box.
Steve Caple - 20 May 2009 21:14 GMT >> Overpriced, of unknown provenance, and who'd want to buy anything from a >> spam-spewing a.shole anyway? > > Was there a message before this one that I didn't get ? or am I to > guess who ? Seeing no need to repeat the spammer's commercial for him, I didn't quote any of the message I replied to; a properly used modern news reader will allow you to view messages in thread order thus revealing what message was replied to.
I suggest 40tude Dialog, bur I believe even Mickeysoft's Outhouse Excess wil allow you to scan messages in thread order, perhaps even jumping to highlighted new replies, if you set it up properly - but don't hold me to it, as I don't intend to install that crap on my computer just to find out.
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BleuRaeder@aol.com - 20 May 2009 22:16 GMT > >> Overpriced, of unknown provenance, and who'd want to buy anything from a > >> spam-spewing a.shole anyway? [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > -- > �Steve OK, for some reason I didn't even get the first message, just your reply to it which now makes sense. Maybe I have some sort of filter to screen out morons, but I still get to see my messages :-)
David Nebenzahl - 21 May 2009 01:02 GMT On 5/20/2009 2:16 PM BleuRaeder@aol.com spake thus:
> OK, for some reason I didn't even get the first message, just your > reply to it which now makes sense. Maybe I have some sort of filter > to screen out morons, but I still get to see my messages :-) Doubtful--filters don't come pre-installed; you have to set them up yourself.
The message probably just didn't make it to your ISP's news server, a not uncommon occurrence.
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Rick Jones - 21 May 2009 01:02 GMT >>>> Overpriced, of unknown provenance, and who'd want to buy anything from a >>>> spam-spewing a.shole anyway? [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > reply to it which now makes sense. Maybe I have some sort of filter > to screen out morons, but I still get to see my messages :-) Not just you. I did not receive the original message either. I'm using Thunderbird, but I think the original message may have been withdrawn or something before we downloaded it.
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David Nebenzahl - 21 May 2009 01:22 GMT On 5/20/2009 5:03 PM Rick Jones spake thus:
>> OK, for some reason I didn't even get the first message, just your >> reply to it which now makes sense. Maybe I have some sort of filter [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > using Thunderbird, but I think the original message may have been > withdrawn or something before we downloaded it. It doesn't matter what news client you use.
It depends on what messages your ISP's news server carries. They're all different, you know. NNTP is a chaotic, largely unsynchronized protocol.
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Chris - 21 May 2009 10:40 GMT > On 5/20/2009 5:03 PM Rick Jones spake thus: > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > It depends on what messages your ISP's news server carries. They're all > different, you know. NNTP is a chaotic, largely unsynchronized protocol. Silly Billy spammer doesn't realise that his website is suspended, and it is also blocked as a phishing site.
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There are LOTS of persons in this world who cannot be civil. I've met more than my share of them over the years. Seems anytime you introduce facts that don't fit in with their pre-conceived notion of how things should be, they go into the attack mode. Just part of life, I guess. - Mark Edward Marchiafava
David Nebenzahl - 21 May 2009 19:14 GMT On 5/21/2009 2:40 AM Chris spake thus:
> Silly Billy spammer doesn't realise that his website is suspended, and it is > also blocked as a phishing site. Yep:
This account has been suspended for either a violation in Liquid Web Inc.'s terms of service or an issue with payment.
So we don't know whether its a payment issue or a TOS violation or what.
So what's with the recent upsurge in spam, here and every other newsgroup I read?
And it's not coming from Google's SpamPortal (tm)(R), either. This particular spammer uses something called Usenet Monster Unlimited.
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BleuRaeder@aol.com - 21 May 2009 20:19 GMT > On 5/21/2009 2:40 AM Chris spake thus: > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > -- > Found--the gene that causes belief in genetic determinism I see alot of the spam crap on another newsgroup I'm on, but seldom on this one and both routed by Google.
I just don't understand
BleuRaeder@aol.com - 21 May 2009 23:52 GMT On May 21, 2:19�pm, BleuRae...@aol.com wrote:
> > On 5/21/2009 2:40 AM Chris spake thus: > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > - Show quoted text - Just today about 5 spams showed up on the other newsgroup
Chris - 21 May 2009 21:43 GMT > On 5/21/2009 2:40 AM Chris spake thus: > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > And it's not coming from Google's SpamPortal (tm)(R), either. This > particular spammer uses something called Usenet Monster Unlimited. Possible hacked news feed or may be a rogue newsfeed.
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People who have heard me sing say that I don't.
Chris - 22 May 2009 21:12 GMT >> On 5/21/2009 2:40 AM Chris spake thus: >> [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Possible hacked news feed or may be a rogue newsfeed. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
And the answer is a hacked news server. See message below.
Path: border1.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!news-out1.kabelfoon.nl!newsfeed.kabelfoon.nl!xindi.nntp.kabelfoon.nl!198.186.194.249.MISMATCH!transit3.readnews.com!news-xxxfer.readnews.com!news-out.readnews.com!postnews3.readnews.com!reader61.readnews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <4a16c4f6$0$2712$a8266bb1@newsreader.readnews.com> From: Avi Freedman <abuse@readnews.com> Subject: Usenetmonster+other recent spam floods Newsgroups: news.admin.net-abuse.usenet User-Agent: tin/1.9.2-20070201 ("Dalaruan") (UNIX) (Linux/2.6.15.6 (i686)) Date: 22 May 2009 15:29:58 GMT Lines: 38 Organization: readnews.com - News for Geeks and ISPs NNTP-Posting-Host: 30cb88df.newsreader.readnews.com X-Trace: DXC=h\kU0;0QH<X7KR\:Q3e`0[X275o64KL9V:f\JA6j9LPZY;gOM3kiSQ]b<74WDd\RTWV?JN0EN;ORTHPC9LjIR[QQ X-Complaints-To: abuse@readnews.com Bytes: 2351 Xref: number.nntp.dca.giganews.com news.admin.net-abuse.usenet:754651
I wanted to apologize for the recent spam floods for the consumer product crap.
readnews does mostly wholesale for other Usenet providers. At the start the spammer had found that our signup link was still active for readnews individual accounts and was injecting via readnews individual accounts.
For the last 2 days the spammers have been mostly targeting usenetmonster.com and some of our resellers.
We already have some rate-limiting in place so that if a user posts > 100 messages in a day, posting will be disabled the next time they log in. Right now the software doesn't actually cut the NNTP connection based on the number of posts, so we are looking at doing that as well so that the posting restriction will take effect on that side.
Our architecture has a couple of posting boxes - but right now those see the article after the posting user information has been encrypted into the X-Trace: header.
We're also doing some work today to add decryption to the post filtering on the posting boxes so we can do filtering on a user basis (tracking reseller users + our own) as well.
And of course in the mean time we're manually deleting accounts at the rate of about one/hour.
We hope to have the problem under control (or at least chased to another Usenet provider) by later today.
Sorry for the floods that have been getting out; this has been a bit more aggressive and shifting than we've seen in the past.
Avi Freedman readnews.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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Bob May - 21 May 2009 21:24 GMT I'm beginning to reply to his email addy asking what the item is. Whomp up his time and he may stop.
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Dan Merkel - 21 May 2009 17:21 GMT > Overpriced, of unknown provenance, and who'd want to buy anything from a > spam-spewing a.shole anyway? > > -- > ?Steve Was there a message before this one that I didn't get ? or am I to guess who ?
Don't feel bad; I missed ti too...
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