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Norvin - 24 May 2009 02:41 GMT
http://videos.komando.com/2009/03/27/a-miniature-wonderland/
LD - 24 May 2009 04:09 GMT
> http://videos.komando.com/2009/03/27/a-miniature-wonderland/

WOW!! INCREDIBLE!! So much to see and so few superlatives...

Normally the NYC next to the Alps next to the Grand Canyon type layout
leaves me cold, but this is Spectacular Execution. From the road traffic to
the camera flashes in the stadium, from the ski lift to the hot air balloons
and rail traffic everywhere!

Thanks for sharing!!
LD - 24 May 2009 04:53 GMT
> http://videos.komando.com/2009/03/27/a-miniature-wonderland/

They have a YouTube Channel!!

http://www.youtube.com/user/MiWuLaTV
Steve Caple - 24 May 2009 07:36 GMT
Wow!!  L@@K!!!!   RARE?   . . .  unfortunately not

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Steve

LD - 24 May 2009 07:43 GMT
> Wow!!  L@@K!!!!   RARE?   . . .  unfortunately not

What ARE you on about?
Steve Caple - 24 May 2009 18:31 GMT
>> Wow!!  L@@K!!!!   RARE?   . . .  unfortunately not
>
> What ARE you on about?

Perhaps your ISP also filtered out the Spam concerto pimping (probably  -
I didn't open their link) the Miniatur Wonderland in Germany.  Just more
spam.  With E-Bay punctuation.

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Steve

Norvin - 24 May 2009 19:16 GMT
>>> Wow!!  L@@K!!!!   RARE?   . . .  unfortunately not
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I didn't open their link) the Miniatur Wonderland in Germany.  Just more
> spam.  With E-Bay punctuation.

Well now, at least we now know how reliable your opinions are. Perhaps a
quick check would help with your facts...............
Twibil - 24 May 2009 19:52 GMT
> >>> Wow!!  L@@K!!!!   RARE?   . . .  unfortunately not
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Well now, at least we now know how reliable your opinions are. Perhaps a
> quick check would help with your facts...............

Fact: Miniature Vunderland is a for-profit tourist attraction in
Hamburg Germany. (See attached price schedule.)

http://www.miniatur-wunderland.com/visit/prices/entrance-fees/

Fact: As do many other businesses, Vunderland advertises regularly in
a number of places in order to attract more business, and just like
other seedy tourist attractions (Disneyland, Europe, etcetera) they no
doubt employ a PR department to see that their name is kept in the
forefront of potential customer's thought-processes just as much as
possible. (See the big spread in Model Railroader a while back.)

Fact: References to Miniature Vunderland's website have appeared here
at RMR on a regular basis ever since I began watching the group
several years ago. This makes it seem as if the person or persons who
keep doing this are in fact spamming the Newsgroup hoping to stir up a
little more future business for Miniature Vunderland.

So if Steve suspects that your post is just more of the same, and that
you are in fact a flack for the nice folks at Miniature Vunderland,
it's easy enough to understand why.

Them's the facts.

~Pete
LD - 25 May 2009 01:07 GMT
On May 24, 11:16 am, Norvin <bluego...@prodigy.spam.net> wrote:

> >>> Wow!! L@@K!!!! RARE? . . . unfortunately not
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Well now, at least we now know how reliable your opinions are. Perhaps a
> quick check would help with your facts...............

Fact: Miniature Vunderland is a for-profit tourist attraction in
Hamburg Germany. (See attached price schedule.)

http://www.miniatur-wunderland.com/visit/prices/entrance-fees/

Fact: As do many other businesses, Vunderland advertises regularly in
a number of places in order to attract more business, and just like
other seedy tourist attractions (Disneyland, Europe, etcetera) they no
doubt employ a PR department to see that their name is kept in the
forefront of potential customer's thought-processes just as much as
possible. (See the big spread in Model Railroader a while back.)

Fact: References to Miniature Vunderland's website have appeared here
at RMR on a regular basis ever since I began watching the group
several years ago. This makes it seem as if the person or persons who
keep doing this are in fact spamming the Newsgroup hoping to stir up a
little more future business for Miniature Vunderland.

So if Steve suspects that your post is just more of the same, and that
you are in fact a flack for the nice folks at Miniature Vunderland,
it's easy enough to understand why.

Them's the facts.

~Pete

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I'd not seen it before and was Astonished. Imagine Working there!
Ray Haddad - 25 May 2009 01:25 GMT
>> >>> Wow!!  L@@K!!!!   RARE?   . . .  unfortunately not
>>
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
>
>Them's the facts.

So, does that mean it's not a model railroad?
--
Ray
Twibil - 25 May 2009 01:32 GMT
> >Them's the facts.
>
> So, does that mean it's not a model railroad?

You mean you don't know?
Ray Haddad - 25 May 2009 03:48 GMT
>> >Them's the facts.
>>
>> So, does that mean it's not a model railroad?
>
>You mean you don't know?

I'm just checking to see if you do. You've done a lot of complaining
so far about a model railroad that happens to charge an admission.

How do you feel about the San Diego Model Railroad Museum? There have
been lots of posts here about them but they also charge a cover. Why
not slam them, too? You make no sense sometimes, Pete.

Reminds me of a couple of friends in Oceanside who were members of a
motorcycle club. The members complained at meetings month after month
that there wasn't a custom shop in Oceanside. Poor members had to
either go to San Diego or Los Angeles for their custom stuff. Lo and
behold, that member and his wife invested a few hundred thousand in a
shop and opened the first custom cycle shop in town. What did they get
for their reward? Complaints from club members who suddenly started
claiming they were only members of the club to increase their profits.
How moronic is that? Well, pretty close to your complaints.

It's a model railroad,for heaven's sake. Just let them post here now
and again without your vitriolic replies and slams. Grow up.
--
Ray
Norvin - 25 May 2009 03:59 GMT
>>>> Them's the facts.
>>> So, does that mean it's not a model railroad?
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> --
> Ray
Damm, I didn't know I was going to create such a problem by showing a
site that had some model railroad stuff that a friend had sent to me. At
least there was one person who enjoyed it also.
Ray Haddad - 25 May 2009 04:25 GMT
>>>>> Them's the facts.
>>>> So, does that mean it's not a model railroad?
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>site that had some model railroad stuff that a friend had sent to me. At
>least there was one person who enjoyed it also.

Enjoy it. The only thing different about you is that you're considered
fresh meat. Don't fret the loudest here. They've got nothing else but
false bravado, mate. Trust me on that one.

They're all wind and just as smelly.
--
Ray
Twibil - 25 May 2009 08:25 GMT
> Damm, I didn't know I was going to create such a problem by showing a
> site that had some model railroad stuff that a friend had sent to me. At
> least there was one person who enjoyed it also.

Not to worry: all you have to do to set Ser Haddad off on a rant is
breath in an everyday manner. Inhale, exhale, makes no never-mind. And
if you *stopped* breathing he'd promptly post to tell everyone why
he'd known it was going to happen all along, and why you deserved it.
Just about any unmoderated Newsgroup you can think of has a few like
him, and it's probably best if you think of them as random sand-traps
in the fairway of life.

However, so far as I know, nobody is specifically mad at *you*.

It's just that when something that's been posted over and over again
to a Newsgroup shows up once again, and has at least the *appearance*
of being spam, you're likely to get some negative reactions from
posters who've grown tired of being propositioned by those
consistantly off-topic Russian/Filipino brides...

~Pete
Ray Haddad - 25 May 2009 10:03 GMT
>> Damm, I didn't know I was going to create such a problem by showing a
>> site that had some model railroad stuff that a friend had sent to me. At
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
>posters who've grown tired of being propositioned by those
>consistantly off-topic Russian/Filipino brides...

So to clear things up, you went off again for no reason. Just as I
suspected. Grow up.

Norvin, this is as close as you will ever get to an apology from this
noobie on USENET.
--
Ray
Twibil - 25 May 2009 19:42 GMT
> So to clear things up, you went off again for no reason. Just as I
> suspected. Grow up.

Ray, you're a well-known Usenet nutcase, and the only logical thing to
do with that sort of oddity is treat them as my dog would: I.E. if you
can't eat it or screw it, just gently piss on it and walk away.

> Norvin, this is as close as you will ever get to an apology from this
> noobie on USENET.

Ray's other great talent -as we've all seen many times before- is the
outright lie.

~Pete
Ray Haddad - 26 May 2009 13:21 GMT
>> So to clear things up, you went off again for no reason. Just as I
>> suspected. Grow up.
>
>Ray, you're a well-known Usenet nutcase, and the only logical thing to
>do with that sort of oddity is treat them as my dog would: I.E. if you
>can't eat it or screw it, just gently piss on it and walk away.

If only you could. Heh.

> Norvin, this is as close as you will ever get to an apology from this
>> noobie on USENET.
>
>Ray's other great talent -as we've all seen many times before- is the
>outright lie.

You still haven't apologized. You never will. You picked on the OP for
nothing at all except a pet peeve of which he wasn't even guilty.

No surprise there, Pete. Grow up.
--
Ray
David Nebenzahl - 25 May 2009 04:06 GMT
On 5/24/2009 7:48 PM Ray Haddad spake thus:

>>> >Them's the facts.
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> been lots of posts here about them but they also charge a cover. Why
> not slam them, too? You make no sense sometimes, Pete.

The SDMRM doesn't appear to propagate spam like the other railroad under
discussion does. Anyone but a lame card-trick "magician" would get that.

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Ray Haddad - 25 May 2009 04:23 GMT
>On 5/24/2009 7:48 PM Ray Haddad spake thus:
>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>The SDMRM doesn't appear to propagate spam like the other railroad under
>discussion does.

There's no complaints about it when a third party posts information
though. The original poster was a third party. Grow up.

>Anyone but a lame card-trick "magician" would get that.

Is that supposed to bother me somehow? You need more work on your
delivery. Did someone smash your toy trains today, David? Poor baby.
How precious it is to see you whining and grasping like you do.
--
Ray
LD - 25 May 2009 04:51 GMT
> On 5/24/2009 7:48 PM Ray Haddad spake thus:
>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> The SDMRM doesn't appear to propagate spam like the other railroad under
> discussion does. Anyone but a lame card-trick "magician" would get that.

WHAT SPAM?? One poster pointed out a YouTube video. I watched it, enjoyed it
and noted that they have a YouTube Channel - meaning a Lot More videos. *I*
don't work for them and I doubt the OP does either. The rest of you buggers
have got your knickers in such a twist over it you'll all be singing soprano
...
Ray Haddad - 25 May 2009 07:22 GMT
>> On 5/24/2009 7:48 PM Ray Haddad spake thus:
>>
[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
>have got your knickers in such a twist over it you'll all be singing soprano
>...

It's been that way for more than the 15 years I've been hanging around
here. A few like to crab and grouse so loudly that they feel as if
they own the place. Look at the whining over some advertising for
tools. Modelers don't need tools. Right? They just gnaw at their
models to make them work right.

Basically, the louder they scream, the less they have to contribute.
Just watch for yourself and see. The next two idiots to scream at me
hardly contribute anything except to scream at someone else now and
again. I'll bet you 5 cents their trains are smashed against the
basement walls if an ant manages to cross the tracks.
--
Ray
Twibil - 25 May 2009 08:32 GMT
> Basically, the louder they scream, the less they have to contribute.
> Just watch for yourself and see.

Yes, please do!

(Ray just shot himself in the foot again, but doesn't realise how he
did it just yet.)

~Pete
Twibil - 25 May 2009 08:08 GMT
> >> >Them's the facts.
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> I'm just checking to see if you do.

No, Ray, you're just playing a.shole net-nanny again. As is your
regular wont.

> You've done a lot of complaining
> so far about a model railroad that happens to charge an admission.

Ray, as Lewis Carrol noted, words have actual meanings; and "complain"
doesn't mean "pointing out facts", no matter how much you'd prefer it
to be otherwise. In fact, I made no value judgents on Miniature
Wonderland *at all* other than a joking reference to "seedy tourist
attractions" -and I included both Disneyland and Europe as other
examples of "seedy", which should have clued even the *dimmest* bulb
into the fact that it was a humorous over- exaggeration.

> How do you feel about the San Diego Model Railroad Museum? There have
> been lots of posts here about them but they also charge a cover. Why
> not slam them, too?

I didn't "slam" anyone except you (see above), and that quite
deservedly, nor did I say there was anything wrong with a model
railroad museum charging for admission.

> You make no sense sometimes, Pete.

That's because you only see what you *want* to see and fail to read
the actual words that appear in front of you on your screen. (And in
case you were wondering, the proper word for that id "delusional".)

> Reminds me of a couple of friends in Oceanside who were members of a
> motorcycle club. The members complained at meetings month after month
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> claiming they were only members of the club to increase their profits.
> How moronic is that? Well, pretty close to your complaints.

Ray, it pains me to say it, but you're an idiot.

There were no "complaints", and your entire post is based on your own
straw-man reasoning: something at which you regularly excel.

> It's a model railroad,for heaven's sake. Just let them post here now
> and again without your vitriolic replies and slams. Grow up.

Yeah, maybe some day I can become a real grown-up like you: someone
who buys a lifetime supply of teapots just so you'll never run shy
when you want to throw a tempest......er, tantrum.
Ray Haddad - 25 May 2009 10:04 GMT
>> >> >Them's the facts.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>No, Ray, you're just playing a.shole net-nanny again. As is your
>regular wont.

Just as I thought. A regular noobie. Welcome to USENET. Now grow up.
--
Ray
Steve Caple - 25 May 2009 09:40 GMT
> So, does that mean it's not a model railroad?

No  -  it's a commercial display and old, old, news.  

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Ray Haddad - 25 May 2009 10:05 GMT
>> So, does that mean it's not a model railroad?
>
>No  -  it's a commercial display and old, old, news.  

Yet somehow, it happens to be a model railroad, Steve. Or are you
really, really blind???
--
Ray
LD - 25 May 2009 01:05 GMT
>>> Wow!!  L@@K!!!!   RARE?   . . .  unfortunately not
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> I didn't open their link) the Miniatur Wonderland in Germany.  Just more
> spam.  With E-Bay punctuation.

Ah, apparently it did.
 
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