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Quality brand of HO scale trains, any suggestions?

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Ignoramus13160 - 14 Jun 2009 14:49 GMT
I have son #2 who is very interested in model trains, HO scale and
frankly I like that stuff as well. I have been somewhat frustrated
that the model trains that I bought are basically low quality, such as
have shoddy couplers, and shoddy everything else. I have been
replacing some junky couplers with Kadee couplers that I bought on
ebay.

Anyway, t this point I basically have some money to burn and would
like to buy something quality, made better than what I have
encountered. Would anyone recommend a brand name that I can look
at. Ergo, right now I am looking to buy a HO freight train.

This would be for using, not putting on a shelf.

Thanks

i
Chuck Kimbrough - 14 Jun 2009 16:08 GMT
At this point I think that you should visit a good hobby train store
near you. Ask for advice and let them know that you might become a long
term customer. If no local hobby stores then Walthers Trainline sets
would be one of the best for your sons age.

> I have son #2 who is very interested in model trains, HO scale and
> frankly I like that stuff as well. I have been somewhat frustrated
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>
> i
Jon Miller - 14 Jun 2009 16:54 GMT
Is it son #2 or age 2.  Makes a lot of difference in what you might want to
buy.
Ignoramus13160 - 14 Jun 2009 22:19 GMT
> Is it son #2 or age 2.  Makes a lot of difference in what you might want to
> buy.

Son #2, age 3. He is actually relatively careful when it comes to toy
trains.

i
Bob May - 14 Jun 2009 23:10 GMT
It is a little bit eary to really do a lot in the way of trains for him.  In
about 2 years, he'll be able to handle the better quality stuff but that is
just a fough guess.
You're doing the right thing by putting Kadee couplers on what he's got now,
one of the bad things that the NMRA did was to promulgate the X2F coupler
design (that is that horn hook thingie that is on a lot of the cheaper
equipment) and while it is decent for a train around the Christmas tree,
they just don't work well on a real layout.
Manual dexterity is a big problem at 3 years of age and will be probably the
biggest limit to what he's going to do.
There's a lot of manufacturers of equipment out there from Athearn (fairly
cheap cars and locos) to really expensive steam locomotives (all of the
brass imports from Japan and Korea) available.   Better yet, instead of
getting ready to run (RTR) stuff is to explore the kits that are out there
when he gets nimble enough to do them.  A simple plastic kit will let you
know when he's going to be able to work on more complex stuff.

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Bob May

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Ignoramus13160 - 14 Jun 2009 23:32 GMT
> It is a little bit eary to really do a lot in the way of trains for him.  In
> about 2 years, he'll be able to handle the better quality stuff but that is
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> when he gets nimble enough to do them.  A simple plastic kit will let you
> know when he's going to be able to work on more complex stuff.

He is three, I set everything up for him. I just cannot stand the
really cheaply made stuff that clearly was meant to be displayed and
not used (as in, really cheap Christmas presents that you alluded
to). He does not abuse trains, as such. I like trains myself.

i
Wolf K - 15 Jun 2009 00:59 GMT
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> He is three, I set everything up for him. I just cannot stand the
> really cheaply made stuff that clearly was meant to be displayed and
> not used (as in, really cheap Christmas presents that you alluded
> to). He does not abuse trains, as such. I like trains myself.

If Son #2 likes the wooden Thomas trains, then IMO you should get those
for him. At three years old, he can set up his own track arrangements
and make the trains go to his heart's content. That was the age my
grandchildren started doing things for themselves, and these wooden toys
were just right for them. Who knows, you might find out that setting up
those wooden trains _with_ him is more fun that setting them up _for_
him. For both of you. ;-) This does not preclude your setting up an
electric trains set also, see below for a suggestion on how to do it.

As for electric trains, yes, avoid those cheap Christmas specials.
Brands I recommend (HO scale) are TrainLine (by Walthers), Bachmann
Thomas the Tank Engine (and their Spectrum sets), and Atlas Trainman.
All the basic sets will fit on a 42"x48" piece of plywood. Paint the
plywood to represent green "grass", grey "streets", etc, fasten down the
track, and you can store it on its edge until it's time to play trains.
Then set up buildings and bridges and such (you can make them out of
cereal box cardboard, decorate them with magic markers, etc. Or use Lego
- you can never have too much Lego! - or his wooden blocks, or etc and
so on and so forth.)

Be aware, however, that these HO sets are not intended to be assembled
and disassembled repeatedly. If you want that kind of train set, go for
O gauge - pricier, but also much sturdier. Lionel is still available, as
are other brands. Or even G gauge, even bigger (you'll need 5ft x 5ft as
a minimum space), but very sturdy, and despite their size easier for
small people to handle. My grandchildren loved our G gauge Thomas,
mostly because they could take the roofs off Annie and Clarabelle, and
give their other toys a ride. ;-)

I _strongly_ second the suggestion that you visit a real hobby shop. If
you can find a model railroad club in your vicinity, visit them too. Buy
an issue or two of Model Railroader and Railroad Model Craftsman, to get
a sense of what's out there, and what this hobby has to offer. Check out
Kalmbach Books for good information for beginners.

Check back in here with more specific questions when you have a better
sense of available options, and your and your son's wishes.

And mostly, Have fun!

wolf k.
Mark Johnson - 15 Jun 2009 19:06 GMT
I agree wholeheartedly with Wolf!

My son (I'm much, much younger than Wolf!) liked running trains on my
HO layout,
but really wanted to use his own imagination in setting up tracks and trains.

The wooden train sets (Brio, etc) are FANTASTIC for this!  He can
design and build
track layouts and run trains based on his own ideas.  It lets him take
the lead,
even when you do join him in play (and by all means, do!)

While young children are often careful with delicate trains - and my son was -
they feel TERRIBLE when something breaks, evne if it's not their fault or it
was expected and forgiven.  This could turn them off completely.

Let them have their own durable, flexible, involving world for a while
at least!

> [...]
>> He is three, I set everything up for him. I just cannot stand the
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> up an electric trains set also, see below for a suggestion on how to do
> it.

Signature

Mark Johnson
Electrical Department
Edmonton Model Railroad Association
http://www.emraonline.ca

Twibil - 15 Jun 2009 19:39 GMT
> I agree wholeheartedly with Wolf!
>
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> Let them have their own durable, flexible, involving world for a while
> at least!

What a great post!

Thank you, Mark!

~Pete
Frank A. Rosenbaum - 15 Jul 2009 20:46 GMT
If it is not too late to chime in. I would suggest Athearn Blue Box four
axle locos and Blue Box cars. The loco's are solid and dependable runners.
When I was working in the hobby business, and a customer came in and asked
the question you did, that was the advice I gave him. I also told the
customer that I would re-assemble the loco for just the cost of  any parts
they had to buy. They are that good.
Athearn cars are very easy to assemble and are relatively inexpensive to
replace.

Go with Atlas track components and start with an atlas track plan book. Stay
away from the Bachmann EZ track with the black base. Those rails are steel
and will rust.

> He is three, I set everything up for him. I just cannot stand the
> really cheaply made stuff that clearly was meant to be displayed and
> not used (as in, really cheap Christmas presents that you alluded
> to). He does not abuse trains, as such. I like trains myself.
>
> i

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