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Estimating the Sale Price of a Layout

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W. eWatson - 24 Aug 2009 17:54 GMT
As I've mentioned in other threads recently, I have an HO layout I built
for my kids 22 years ago that has been virtually untouched since. It's
time to sell it. I've been cleaning up things, and still have some more
work to do to check things out.

At some point I need to sell it, and want to get a grip on a price.
First, I thought I'd like to understand the prices of various
components. The layout is on a 6x4 plywood platform, has two levels of
interconnected Atlas 9" tracks (40 feet of maybe), and two short spurs,
two switches. power transformer (Tech 2 (II?) railmaster 2400), Athearn
diesel engine (EMD SD-9), 7 Athearn cars, 6-7 plastic buildings, two
crossing signals (part of switch?), a few small figures and vehicles,
extra switch, lighting for buildings, a bag of fake shrubs, a box of 12
assorted track parts and sections, 50 elevation supports, and a dozen
spare 9" tracks. I have all the boxes, and all is good condition.

At a local hobby shop with a depleted supply of train equipment, owner
died, and new owners are shifting to to model racing cars, I made some
estimates. Diesel engine probably cost me $60, and they sell for about
that price now. Cars (caboose, flatcar, ...) are anywhere from $4 to $9,
 buildings $3 to $5, switches $12-15. I couldn't get a good estimate on
9" straight track sections, but according a package I have from years
ago they were selling at about $0.40. I plan to sell it as a layout
rather than disassemble it all and sell it that way. Maybe someone can
update me on prices?
Roger T. - 24 Aug 2009 18:50 GMT
Look up Walthers for their latest catalogue.

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David Nebenzahl - 24 Aug 2009 19:26 GMT
On 8/24/2009 9:54 AM W. eWatson spake thus:

> At a local hobby shop with a depleted supply of train equipment, owner
> died, and new owners are shifting to to model racing cars, I made some
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> rather than disassemble it all and sell it that way. Maybe someone can
> update me on prices?

Can't do that, but I can see where you're going with this; I hate to
disappoint you, but what you ought to do is come up with a figure for
what you *think* the layout is worth, divide it by 10, and be happy if
you get half of that.

Seriously.

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Roger T. - 24 Aug 2009 19:51 GMT
"David Nebenzahl"

> Can't do that, but I can see where you're going with this; I hate to
> disappoint you, but what you ought to do is come up with a figure for what
> you *think* the layout is worth, divide it by 10, and be happy if you get
> half of that.

Sadly very good advice.  20 year old Athearn stuff is not worth much these
days, the quality of the products has improved beyond belief.   I have some
20 or more 1980s vintage Athearn locos that have being sitting on storage
shelves for years as they just no longer look as good nor operate as well as
the newer models.  Even the Athearn Blue Box rolling stock of the same era
is slowly being replaced, which is painful as it's all been weathered and in
many cases, redecaled for both the home road and t give me more Canadian and
North Eastern U.S. roadnames.

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Twibil - 24 Aug 2009 22:10 GMT
> Can't do that, but I can see where you're going with this; I hate to
> disappoint you, but what you ought to do is come up with a figure for
> what you *think* the layout is worth, divide it by 10, and be happy if
> you get half of that.
>
> Seriously.

Alas; probably true. But it never hurts to start with a high asking
price so long as you're willing to go way down if nobody bites.

After all, you can't very well do it the other way around, and there
*is* one born every minute.

~Pete
the OTHER Mike - 25 Aug 2009 05:57 GMT
> > Can't do that, but I can see where you're going with this; I hate to
> > disappoint you, but what you ought to do is come up with a figure for
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>
> ~Pete

Pete, you're lookig for a layout ?
< insert smart remark here>
Twibil - 25 Aug 2009 06:37 GMT
> Pete, you're lookig for a layout ?
> < insert smart remark here>

Nope. I've foud one.

(Bows to crowd, exits to stage left.)
David Nebenzahl - 25 Aug 2009 06:44 GMT
On 8/24/2009 10:37 PM Twibil spake thus:

>> Pete, you're lookig for a layout ?
>> < insert smart remark here>
>
> Nope. I've foud one.
>
> (Bows to crowd, exits to stage left.)

I hope both your colds clear up soon. Hate to have a code in my node.

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W. eWatson - 25 Aug 2009 23:32 GMT
>> Can't do that, but I can see where you're going with this; I hate to
>> disappoint you, but what you ought to do is come up with a figure for
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>
> ~Pete
In contrast the comments above, a former owner of a railroad store and
hawking for another railroad store, but new, 30 miles from here sized it
up as $25-300. Maybe. Well, if I'm going to get $20 for it, then I can
stop cleaning the tracks and equipment. :-) Maybe at Christmas.
trainjer@hotmail.com - 26 Aug 2009 00:20 GMT
> >> Can't do that, but I can see where you're going with this; I hate to
> >> disappoint you, but what you ought to do is come up with a figure for
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>
> - Show quoted text -

FWIW here is a slightly different suggestion. Donate these items to a
recognized charity such as Goodwill. Use a realistic  estimated value
for same on Form A of your 1040. You may do much better than the
$12.50 or $20.00 figures mentioned so far. A more exact figure is
impossible without knowing your tax personal situation, and, of
course, it assumes that you itemize rather than utilize a standard
deduction.

HTH

Jerry
David Nebenzahl - 26 Aug 2009 01:01 GMT
On 8/25/2009 4:20 PM trainjer@hotmail.com spake thus:

>>>> Can't do that, but I can see where you're going with this; I hate to
>>>> disappoint you, but what you ought to do is come up with a figure for
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> course, it assumes that you itemize rather than utilize a standard
> deduction.

Hate to throw cold water on what seems like a reasonable suggestion, but
Goodwill is about the last place I'd suggest donating a layout. Have you
been in any Goodwill stores lately? They're *very* selective about what
they sell. Even though so much that they put out is basically crap, it's
crap that's chosen to not look too "messy" or out-of-date. The chances
of them actually displaying a layout in one of their stores is
vanishingly small.

On the other hand, there may be other places that might take it. 'Round
heah', in Berkeley, my favorite recycled-goods store, Urban Ore,
currently has a small HO layout for sale. No guarantee it will, but it
is there.

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Brian Smith - 26 Aug 2009 00:32 GMT
> In contrast the comments above, a former owner of a railroad store and
> hawking for another railroad store, but new, 30 miles from here sized it
> up as $25-300. Maybe. Well, if I'm going to get $20 for it, then I can
> stop cleaning the tracks and equipment. :-) Maybe at Christmas.

    Possibly your local Children's Hospital might be a good place to make
enquiries as to whether they have a model railroad there for the
children to view. Here in Halifax we have this at the IWK Health Centre
Foundation> The children and visitors alike thoroughly enjoy the railroad.
W. eWatson - 25 Aug 2009 23:26 GMT
> On 8/24/2009 9:54 AM W. eWatson spake thus:
>
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>
> Seriously.

You might be right, $12.50. :-)
David Nebenzahl - 25 Aug 2009 23:46 GMT
On 8/25/2009 3:26 PM W. eWatson spake thus:

>> Can't do that, but I can see where you're going with this; I hate to
>> disappoint you, but what you ought to do is come up with a figure for
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>>
> You might be right, $12.50. :-)

Think of it as free beer. (Or whatever your favorite poison is.)

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W. eWatson - 26 Aug 2009 00:00 GMT
Of course, a more accurate method than any offered here is a comparison
against existing sales. For that, Ebay is the magic word. I'll be
checking it out over the next several days.
the OTHER Mike - 26 Aug 2009 00:07 GMT
> Of course, a more accurate method than any offered here is a comparison
> against existing sales. For that, Ebay is the magic word. I'll be
> checking it out over the next several days.

Hang out at the hobby shop around Christmas until you hear some poor
dad saying "son, I just don't have time right now to build a layout"
Then follow him into a dark alley and ope your trench coat with
pictures of the layout glued to the inside .......

When ever we get stuck with someones old donated layout at the club,
we usually give it away to some deserving kid........find a dad thats
willing to barter
W. eWatson - 26 Aug 2009 01:19 GMT
>> Of course, a more accurate method than any offered here is a comparison
>> against existing sales. For that, Ebay is the magic word. I'll be
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> we usually give it away to some deserving kid........find a dad thats
> willing to barter
Do I hear $50? Ladies and gentlemen certainly this fine keepsake ...
 
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