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Mike Hughes - 03 Dec 2009 13:11 GMT
I've added 20 photos to the Wunderland collection starting here
http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/p62373865.html

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LDosser - 04 Dec 2009 08:20 GMT
> I've added 20 photos to the Wunderland collection starting here
> http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/p62373865.html
>
> Enjoy

Wunderbar!
Mike Hughes - 04 Dec 2009 18:32 GMT
>> I've added 20 photos to the Wunderland collection starting here
>> http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/p62373865.html
>>
>> Enjoy
>
>Wunderbar!

There's loads more to come. I can't put them all on together as it would
overload my download allowance on the site I use.

I've just received a CD with pictures taken by another member of our
party and will be posting them in the next week or so.

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Mike Hughes - 08 Dec 2009 11:04 GMT
>>> I've added 20 photos to the Wunderland collection starting here
>>> http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/p62373865.html
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>I've just received a CD with pictures taken by another member of our
>party and will be posting them in the next week or so.

And here are the first 10 of those. These were taken by fellow NMRA
member Ron Gager

WARNING: The first picture you will see may not be suitable for those of
a nervous disposition. You may well need a sick bag when you see it.

Pictures start here http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/p62435285.html

Enjoy

More to come very soon

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Mike Hughes - 08 Dec 2009 17:35 GMT
>More to come very soon

I've added another 20 photos starting here
http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/p62443451.html

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Mike Hughes - 10 Dec 2009 11:12 GMT
>>More to come very soon
>>
>I've added another 20 photos starting here
>http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/p62443451.html
>
>Enjoy

I've added another 20 pictures starting here
http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/p62461397.html

More to follow soon

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LDosser - 11 Dec 2009 20:52 GMT
>>>More to come very soon
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>
> More to follow soon

Speaking of backgrounds, what is that odd light column just to the right of
the balloon in the first picture?

Thanks for posting.
Wim van Bemmel - 11 Dec 2009 21:44 GMT
>>>>More to come very soon
>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>
> Thanks for posting.

A column they tried to hide by painting it in camouflage colours. ;-)

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Mike Hughes - 12 Dec 2009 15:38 GMT
>>>>>More to come very soon
>>>>>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
>A column they tried to hide by painting it in camouflage colours. ;-)

You're absolutely right :-)

They are columns which for part of the original warehouse. The people at
MW have managed to paint them in such a way that they are almost
invisible when they are photographed from the right angle.

The whole thing is brilliant - and I haven't even got to the American
section in my processing yet - it's something else.

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Mike Hughes - 14 Dec 2009 16:31 GMT
>More to follow soon

And here they are

http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/p62517507.html

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LDosser - 15 Dec 2009 06:39 GMT
>>More to follow soon
>>
> And here they are
>
> http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/p62517507.html

Do they have Chevy Chase at a Biergarten?
Mike Hughes - 15 Dec 2009 11:09 GMT
>>>More to follow soon
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>Do they have Chevy Chase at a Biergarten?

Not certain - there was so much there it was very easy to miss
something. Keep looking out, you never quite know what you'll see :-))

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Mike Hughes - 16 Dec 2009 01:56 GMT
Some more of NMRA BR member Ron Gager's photos added here
http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/p62537069.html

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LDosser - 16 Dec 2009 08:14 GMT
> Some more of NMRA BR member Ron Gager's photos added here
> http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/p62537069.html
>
> Enjoy

You notice something different every time. This time I noticed the vehicle
lights and an odd shaped red thingie about half way down the side of a
ravine. Also, the vehicular tunnel openings look like our drainage pipes.
Mike Hughes - 16 Dec 2009 08:37 GMT
>> Some more of NMRA BR member Ron Gager's photos added here
>> http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/p62537069.html
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>side of a ravine. Also, the vehicular tunnel openings look like our
>drainage pipes.

You should have been there. It didn't matter where you looked there was
so much detail to see.

If you can get to Hamburg at the end of November 2010 then you'd be
welcome to join the next trip.

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LDosser - 17 Dec 2009 02:20 GMT
>>> Some more of NMRA BR member Ron Gager's photos added here
>>> http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/p62537069.html
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
> If you can get to Hamburg at the end of November 2010 then you'd be
> welcome to join the next trip.

Thanks.
Mike Hughes - 23 Dec 2009 02:43 GMT
More photos added here http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/p62619398.html
We're now getting to the American section.

Enjoy

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LDosser - 23 Dec 2009 10:41 GMT
> More photos added here http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/p62619398.html
> We're now getting to the American section.

Nope. Stuck in Switzerland with Roman Polanski ...
Mike Hughes - 26 Dec 2009 14:21 GMT
>> More photos added here http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/p62619398.html
>> We're now getting to the American section.

I've added 20 photos of the American section of Wunderland
http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/p62651173.html

Enjoy

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LDosser - 27 Dec 2009 00:42 GMT
>>> More photos added here http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/p62619398.html
>>> We're now getting to the American section.
>>>
> I've added 20 photos of the American section of Wunderland
> http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/p62651173.html

Thanks, Mike. Seems slow today. I went to your index and accessed from
there.

This section appears to me as a European's idea of America. Maybe the pueblo
or the strange looking cacti. Just something 'not right'.

> Enjoy
Steve Caple - 27 Dec 2009 19:38 GMT
> This section appears to me as a European's idea of America. Maybe the pueblo
> or the strange looking cacti. Just something 'not right'.

Sorta like a Karl May western  -  for some grins, see if you can find "Old
Surehand", which I'm sure Stewart Granger regretted all the way to the
bank.

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Steve Caple - 27 Dec 2009 19:43 GMT
>> This section appears to me as a European's idea of America. Maybe the pueblo
>> or the strange looking cacti. Just something 'not right'.
>
> Sorta like a Karl May western  -  for some grins, see if you can find "Old
> Surehand", which I'm sure Stewart Granger regretted all the way to the
> bank.

PS  -  Karl May stories were a favoite of He Who Must Not Be Named *

*  per Godwin's Law ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law )

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LDosser - 28 Dec 2009 05:34 GMT
>>> This section appears to me as a European's idea of America. Maybe the
>>> pueblo
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> *  per Godwin's Law ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law )

And some of his Henchpersons ...
Twibil - 28 Dec 2009 05:59 GMT
> And some of his Henchpersons ...

I always wanted to Hench, but just when it looked most promising the
economy went belly-up and all the really good supervillains stopped
hiring.

Turns out that giant spaceship-mounted laser cannon are a poor long-
term investment strategy: both the maintenance and the phased
depreciation allowances will eat you alive.

Sigh.

~Pete
LDosser - 28 Dec 2009 07:22 GMT
On Dec 27, 9:34 pm, "LDosser" <L...@invalid.invalid> wrote:

> And some of his Henchpersons ...

I always wanted to Hench, but just when it looked most promising the
economy went belly-up and all the really good supervillains stopped
hiring.

Turns out that giant spaceship-mounted laser cannon are a poor long-
term investment strategy: both the maintenance and the phased
depreciation allowances will eat you alive.

Sigh.

~Pete

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Well, there are still jobs overseas. Mugabe is rumored to be in the market
for Henches.
Twibil - 28 Dec 2009 22:41 GMT
> Well, there are still jobs overseas. Mugabe is rumored to be in the market
> for Henches.

Oh, sure, but his henchmen still use old-fashioned clubs and machetes
(Ewww! Gross!), and working there would mean wasting all my expensive
schooling in the field of giant spaceship-mounted laser cannon
operation and maintenance.

The dreams of a lifetime crushed by a mere economic downturn...

~Pete
Wim van Bemmel - 27 Dec 2009 23:21 GMT
>> This section appears to me as a European's idea of America. Maybe the
>> pueblo or the strange looking cacti. Just something 'not right'.
>
> Sorta like a Karl May western  -  for some grins, see if you can find
> "Old Surehand", which I'm sure Stewart Granger regretted all the way to
> the bank.

No doubt it was inspired by the Lucky Luke comic.
It looks very much like the artist's view of Europe that is displayed on
the rest of the layout. My friends NMRA members had a name for it: "a
spaghetti bowl". It would have been impossible to cram another meter of
rail in.

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LDosser - 28 Dec 2009 05:36 GMT
>>> This section appears to me as a European's idea of America. Maybe the
>>> pueblo or the strange looking cacti. Just something 'not right'.
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> spaghetti bowl". It would have been impossible to cram another meter of
> rail in.

That's another thought. I think that Americans tend to view the rail system
as being more dense in Europe and so overlook the spaghetti aspects when it
comes to the European portions.
Wolf K - 28 Dec 2009 04:22 GMT
>> This section appears to me as a European's idea of America. Maybe the pueblo
>> or the strange looking cacti. Just something 'not right'.
>
> Sorta like a Karl May western  -  for some grins, see if you can find "Old
> Surehand", which I'm sure Stewart Granger regretted all the way to the
> bank.

Old Shatterhand, actually. And Winnetou, who was supposedly an Apache,
tho' AFAIK that's not an Apache name, nor could it be. May (pronounced
"my", BTW) was said to have researched his settings carefully and
thoroughly. He had a knack for presenting physical setting vividly, but
in a few words; his characterisation is simplistic, and he suffered
severely from Noble Savage syndrome. His narrative pace is swift, making
his books real page turners. I read loads of them when I was a 10-12
years old, and can't remember a single one - just a few names.

cheers,
wolf k.
Steve Caple - 28 Dec 2009 07:35 GMT
> Old Shatterhand, actually.

Actually, Old Surehand was another character of May's  -  and the one
Granger played in a movie or three.

> And Winnetou, who was supposedly an Apache, tho' AFAIK that's not an
> Apache name, nor could it be. May (pronounced "my", BTW)

Yep  -  pretty glaring, but what the hell, all those Indians looked alike
to Karl.

As for "my", my wife speaks German and Schwabisch  -  I fumble a little of
it.

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LDosser - 28 Dec 2009 10:25 GMT
>> Old Shatterhand, actually.
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> As for "my", my wife speaks German and Schwabisch  -  I fumble a little of
> it.

Been told by German friends that I speak it like a turn of the century
Prussian. No, not this century ...

'Course, what I had beaten into me was hoch Deutsch.
Wolf K - 28 Dec 2009 14:37 GMT
>> Old Shatterhand, actually.
>
> Actually, Old Surehand was another character of May's  -  and the one
> Granger played in a movie or three.

OK, I knew about Old Surehand (not my favourite, and not a major
character anyhow), but I didn't know that a) some of May's books were
filmed, and b) that Granger played that role. Got any movie titles, perhaps?

>> And Winnetou, who was supposedly an Apache, tho' AFAIK that's not an
>> Apache name, nor could it be. May (pronounced "my", BTW)
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> As for "my", my wife speaks German and Schwabisch  -  I fumble a little of
> it.
Jan ( Bouli ) Van Gerwen - 28 Dec 2009 17:00 GMT
>>> Old Shatterhand, actually.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> anyhow), but I didn't know that a) some of May's books were filmed, and b)
> that Granger played that role. Got any movie titles, perhaps?

Hi Wolf

Here is what IMDB has on Karl May, http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0562015/ , a
lot of his novels were filmed , Old Shatterhand was played by Lex Barker .
Correct me if I'm wrong Karl May lived between 1842 and 1912, wouldn't there
still have been Indians and Cowboys in the sort of way he writes about them?
Karl May never had been in the US so I forgive the faults he made and think
his novels were quite nice to a 8-14 year old boy.

Greetz Jan
The Seabat - 29 Dec 2009 01:51 GMT
On Mon, 28 Dec 2009 18:00:52 +0100, "Jan \( Bouli \) Van Gerwen"
<jan@leavethisawayjanbouli.com> wrote:

>>"Wolf K" <wekirch@sympatico.ca> schreef in bericht
>>news:4b38d0a1$0$2084$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com...
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>>Correct me if I'm wrong Karl May lived between 1842 and 1912, wouldn't there
>>still have been Indians and Cowboys in the sort of way he writes about them?

We still have cowboys and indians around the country. The difference
is the cowboys try to act and talk like the originals, but their
designer jeans and cell phones on their belt is a big tip-off that
they are not! A ten gallon hat does not a cowboy make!

The indians are still around, although not in as great a number and
definitely not as much of a threat. They are trying to gain their land
and pride back from the white man by skinning them at their casino's!
:) (That's a joke, son, so keep the war paint in the trunk.)

>>Karl May never had been in the US so I forgive the faults he made and think
>>his novels were quite nice to a 8-14 year old boy.
>>
>>Greetz Jan

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LDosser - 28 Dec 2009 05:33 GMT
>> This section appears to me as a European's idea of America. Maybe the
>> pueblo
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> Surehand", which I'm sure Stewart Granger regretted all the way to the
> bank.

That's it, Karl May! Been racking my brain for that. Very popular in
Germany. Also reminds me of this sort of dialog:

UK person: "So where do you live in America?"
Me: "Toledo, Ohio."
UK person: "I have a cousin in Chicago, maybe you know him." ...
Steve Caple - 28 Dec 2009 07:38 GMT
> That's it, Karl May! Been racking my brain for that. Very popular in
> Germany.

He also managed to produce various geographically inept and usually not to
subtly racist books set in African jungles, in the deserts of Noerth Africa
and Arabia, etc.  -  turgid potboilers, just the sort of stuff that failed
Austrian painter liked.

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Jan ( Bouli ) Van Gerwen - 28 Dec 2009 09:43 GMT
>>> This section appears to me as a European's idea of America. Maybe the
>>> pueblo
[quoted text clipped - 11 lines]
> Me: "Toledo, Ohio."
> UK person: "I have a cousin in Chicago, maybe you know him." ...
I do believe its not that bad anymore ( the geographic knowledge ) on both
sides of the Atlantic, yes 50 years ago lots of europeans thought there were
still cowboys and indians in the US living like in the John Wayne movies, at
the same time lots of americans thought ( and still think ) that we ( I'm
Dutch ) walk on wooden shoes, are all tulip farmers and our country has
thousands of windmills, of course now all Dutch sit in coffeeshops every day
blowing their brains out on cheap marihuana. As for the geographical
knowledge, the US is concidered a country like any other and yes lots of
europeans don't know that someone from LA is just as far from Chicago as a
person from Helsinki is from Madrid. When my brother played hockey in
Victoria Canada he was asked several times what it was like to live in a
country where there was military on every corner of the street and having no
rights, they thought the Netherlands was a communist country ( this was
about 25 years ago ). Ask the average American what Denmark is and they
answer , isnt that the capitol of Amsterdam or something like that. I do
believe however that ( western)Europeans travel a lot more then Americans
( but correct me if I'm wrong ), of course for some of us travelling to
another country is not so hard , I live 6 km from the German and 23 km from
the Belgium boarder, but most of us have been to several countries whereas
most americans travel outside of their own state a few times in their entire
life. I've been to the US ( Florida, New York ) Canada ( Ontario, BC in
May ) Sweden, Norway, Germany, Belgium , Luxembourg, Switserland, Austria,
Hungaria, Chechia, Poland, France , Andorra, Spain, England, Schotland,
Indonesia, Australia, Japan and the Emirates, none of these work related.

To get back on Topic, the whole Wunderland layout is non prototypical, its
all a bit overdone , but if it weren't it would be somewhat dull. Its much
more fun and interesting having a train go through the Grand Canyon then
alongside or only to it. Wunderland is the largest layout in the world but
probably least prototypical, I do believe that atracts lots of children to
the hobby wich a prototypical layout doesnt do in such a great way.

Greetz Jan
LDosser - 28 Dec 2009 10:29 GMT
>>>> This section appears to me as a European's idea of America. Maybe the
>>>> pueblo
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> street and having no rights, they thought the Netherlands was a communist
> country ( this was about 25 years ago ).

When I moved from Toledo to Oregon, Toledoans asked me about Indians, inside
toilets and electricity. :(
Steve Caple - 28 Dec 2009 14:40 GMT
> When I moved from Toledo to Oregon, Toledoans asked me about Indians, inside
> toilets and electricity. :(

When I was in 6th grade (in northern Indiana) we got a new mucic teacher
who was from New York.  We were amused that she referred to being in
Indiana as "out west".

Perhaps if my compatriots were better traveled they's not be so stupid and
sisceptible to myths about healthcare, or so resistant to public rail
transport.  Just let 'em live in Stuttgart a few months with an open mind
and a strassenbahn pass . . .

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Mike Hughes - 28 Dec 2009 17:52 GMT
I've added some more NMRA member Ron Gager's photos - 47 photos to be
precise - we did take a *lot* of photos on our trip.

Start at http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/p62687637.html

Enjoy

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LDosser - 29 Dec 2009 06:39 GMT
> I've added some more NMRA member Ron Gager's photos - 47 photos to be
> precise - we did take a *lot* of photos on our trip.
>
> Start at http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/p62687637.html

Spaghetti was discussed in the last set of posts and there is no doubt a
fair amount of spaghetti, but the space given over to non-revenue items is
astonishing. Streets, roads, major highways, villages, towns, castles (3
that I saw), ski slopes, a ski jump, a *Palace* complete with two hedge
mazes, and on and on. I can only recall three sites associated with railroad
freight and not too many passenger stations. Wonder if anyone has calculated
the ratio of meters of track per square meter of railroad?
Mike Hughes - 30 Dec 2009 22:00 GMT
>I've added some more NMRA member Ron Gager's photos - 47 photos to be
>precise - we did take a *lot* of photos on our trip.
>
>Start at http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/p62687637.html
>
>Enjoy

Added another 32 of Ron Gager's photos here
http://mikehughes627.fotopic.net/p62718020.html

These now bring our combined total up to 257 - and there's still more to
go! We really did have a great time. It's a pity we couldn't take enough
photos to really show you what we saw :-)

Enjoy
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LDosser - 30 Dec 2009 23:22 GMT
>>I've added some more NMRA member Ron Gager's photos - 47 photos to be
>>precise - we did take a *lot* of photos on our trip.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> go! We really did have a great time. It's a pity we couldn't take enough
> photos to really show you what we saw :-)

Wow!: head and tail light trails in the night scene photo.
New interest: 1:1 people.
Surprise: they painted sky and clouds on brick walls.
 
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