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Lionel 646 engine repair question

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klem kedidelhopper - 16 Jan 2010 23:37 GMT
I have a 646 Hudson steam engine that I've been running with my set
since 1953. The set comes out now just briefly for the holidays,
(space is limited).
This year while cleaning and lubricating my equipment I noticed that
there is a gear on the left side of the engine between the most
forward and center of two of the six large wheels in the center of the
engine that seems to wobble on the post it rides on. The post looks
like its ok. It just seems to be the hole in the gear that has opened
up considerably.
This gear, about the size of a quarter was just "placed" on this
shaft, however with the large wheels in place it is captive and cannot
be removed from the shaft without removing these two of the six wheels
in the center of the engine. The wheels seem to have been pressed on
to their shafts and I don't want to force anything. The engine still
runs well, however this gear wobbles as it drives the other wheel.
Luckily, the teeth on the gear as well as the teeth on the wheels are
not chewed yet, but if this situation persists I'm sure they will be.
I'm certain that this can only get worse if neglected.
I have always maintained and even rebuilt many pieces of my set over
the years but I've never disassembled an engine drive before. Can
anyone more familiar with this kind of dissasembly please advise me as
to how to go about removing these driving wheels without damaging the
engine. Or if there is a more appropriate newsgroup I might present
this question to I would very much appreciate being advised of that as
well. Thanks very much, Lenny
Bill - 17 Jan 2010 19:09 GMT
On Jan 16, 6:37 pm, klem kedidelhopper <captainvideo462...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I have a 646 Hudson steam engine that I've been running with my set
> since 1953. The set comes out now just briefly for the holidays,
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> this question to I would very much appreciate being advised of that as
> well. Thanks very much, Lenny

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Bill
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David Nebenzahl - 17 Jan 2010 21:07 GMT
On 1/17/2010 11:09 AM Bill spake thus:

> On Jan 16, 6:37 pm, klem kedidelhopper <captainvideo462...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> http://pictures.olsenstoy.com/searchcd2a.htm

So, nicey-nice bot Bill, just how are these links supposed to be helpful?

The first one contains 3 PDFs of parts lists for this locomotive.
Helpful, I suppose, if you know just what part you need to replace, but
useless otherwise. (The 2nd link is just a page that contains the first
link.) So I don't think this is going to help the OP much.

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captainvideo462002@yahoo.com - 17 Jan 2010 23:29 GMT
> On 1/17/2010 11:09 AM Bill spake thus:
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>
> - a Usenet "apology"

Does anyone know whats involved to remove the driving wheels? Lenny
Bill - 18 Jan 2010 02:53 GMT
> On 1/17/2010 11:09 AM Bill spake thus:
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Shut up, David Nebenzahl.

Bill
Bob May - 18 Jan 2010 01:41 GMT
There is  a society for toy trains and a magazine for the organization.
Sorry that I don't know how to get to the group other than doing a web
search but 30 years ago they were a big society.
As to the drivers, I do believe that they are merely pressed on the axles so
they should come off without too much trouble with the right tools.  Don't
even try to do that work with a vise, etc. as they need to come off square
if you  wish to put them back on.  Also, don't pull the rims  of the wheels
as the drivers aren't that strong at the edge.
Usually in  any  large city there will be a Lionel repair  center which is
something else to look for.

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Bill - 18 Jan 2010 03:00 GMT
> There is  a society for toy trains and a magazine for the organization.
> Sorry that I don't know how to get to the group other than doing a web
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> http: slash /nav.to slash bobmay
> http: slash /bobmay dot astronomy.net

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TCA, The Train Collectors Association...

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Bill
Bill's Railroad Empire
Bob May - 19 Jan 2010 00:35 GMT
Thanks Bill!  If TCA can't hadle it, it ain't Lionel, Marx or several othr
makers of old toy trains.

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