I am getting serious about completing my L3 project and would like to do
some detailed technical drawings laying out, primarily, the recovery
system setup and various options for same.
I have ROCSIM but am looking for something that will permit me to do some
more detailed drawings - some sort of CAD software.
Any suggestions based on experience would be most appreciated. I would
like to avoid a steep learning curve and I would like to avoid a huge hit
on the pocketbook if I can. I am not adverse to spending a few bucks.
Thanks in advance.
The project BTW is a 11.5" diameter semi-scale V2... actually a BLOSSOM
V2, as the body tube is elongated to move the CG forward and permit more
room for larger motors, like the HyperTek hybrids and perhaps an AT N2000
once I have certified.
Murray Lampert
TRA 08855 L2
NAR 79489 L2
CAR S589 L3
LDRS 23 - Geneseo NY - July 1 - 6, 2004
Al Gloer - 22 Dec 2003 03:52 GMT
There are two programs I would reecommend if you are looking for a pure CAD
solution.
If you want the minimal learning curve, try DesignCad - this is a really
solid entry level 3D cad package. Nicely priced at under $100.
If you think you may want to be a bit more exrended, try AutoCadLT - Runs
around $495, the advantage here is that it would prepare you, if interested
to step into the big guns like AutoCad itself.
If all you want this for is your L3 project, stick with DesignCad -> it will
more than meet your drawing needs.
Al
> I am getting serious about completing my L3 project and would like to do
> some detailed technical drawings laying out, primarily, the recovery
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> LDRS 23 - Geneseo NY - July 1 - 6, 2004
Ismaeel Abdur-Rasheed - 22 Dec 2003 06:15 GMT
> There are two programs I would reecommend if you are looking for a pure CAD
> solution.
>
> If you want the minimal learning curve, try DesignCad - this is a really
> solid entry level 3D cad package. Nicely priced at under $100.
see best prices at
http://shopper.cnet.com/4007-5_9-0.html?tag=top&qt=DesignCad&x=0&y=0
DesignCAD Express $ 36
DesignCAD 3D MAX $ 66
DesignCAD 3D MAX Plus $213
the manufacturers website with roduct descriptions is at
http://www.upperspace.com/products/designcad.asp
- iz
ArtU - 22 Dec 2003 17:15 GMT
> There are two programs I would reecommend if you are looking for a pure CAD
> solution.
>
> If you want the minimal learning curve, try DesignCad - this is a really
> solid entry level 3D cad package. Nicely priced at under $100.
I've used ModelCAD by the same maker of Design Cad.
Have some nice features for R/C Planes and rocket gliders.
I got it for $50.
/ArtU
> If you think you may want to be a bit more exrended, try AutoCadLT - Runs
> around $495, the advantage here is that it would prepare you, if interested
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> > LDRS 23 - Geneseo NY - July 1 - 6, 2004
Ismaeel Abdur-Rasheed - 31 Dec 2003 04:00 GMT
v.14 is the lastest version of this package, list prices are
DesignCAD 3D MAX 14 $99.95 3D
DesignCAD Express 14 $49.95 2D
for more info from the software maker
see http://www.upperspace.com/products/designcad.asp
and http://www.upperspace.com/Products/3022
note that the 3D package its available right now for $79.99 from
CompUsa
for http://tinyurl.com/2nrj9
and will be available for under $70 from Amazon and others in a few
weeks if you can wait for the better price
- iz
> There are two programs I would reecommend if you are looking for a pure CAD
> solution.
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> > LDRS 23 - Geneseo NY - July 1 - 6, 2004
J.A. Michel - 22 Dec 2003 04:37 GMT
I use DeltaCad. I'm not a CAD expert by any stretch of the imagination, so
something else may be better. At 40 bucks, DeltaCad is hard to beat. It
works for me.
--
Joe Michel
NAR 82797 L1
> I am getting serious about completing my L3 project and would like to do
> some detailed technical drawings laying out, primarily, the recovery
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> LDRS 23 - Geneseo NY - July 1 - 6, 2004
Jerry Irvine - 22 Dec 2003 04:48 GMT
> I use DeltaCad. I'm not a CAD expert by any stretch of the imagination, so
> something else may be better. At 40 bucks, DeltaCad is hard to beat. It
> works for me.
Which of these "cheap CAD's" also serve as Autocad viewers and printing
utilities?

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Al Gloer - 23 Dec 2003 00:01 GMT
DesignCad will read .DWF (AutoCad) files. It will only choke if you use some
rally sophisticated 3D gyrations (Splines, Nurbs, Illumination, etc.) that
are unlikely to be seen for hobby use.
Of course AutoCadLT will read their files. It's big limitation is that it is
primarily a 2D package.
A
> > I use DeltaCad. I'm not a CAD expert by any stretch of the imagination, so
> > something else may be better. At 40 bucks, DeltaCad is hard to beat. It
> > works for me.
>
> Which of these "cheap CAD's" also serve as Autocad viewers and printing
> utilities?
Jerry Irvine - 23 Dec 2003 00:21 GMT
> DesignCad will read .DWF (AutoCad) files. It will only choke if you use some
> rally sophisticated 3D gyrations (Splines, Nurbs, Illumination, etc.) that
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> A
Thank you Al.

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Mfreptiles - 22 Dec 2003 07:03 GMT
AutoCad, Coreldraw, Adobe Illustrator. I use all three in combination with
Rocksim. The AutoCad and Corel files come in extra handy for exporting fin and
centering ring .dxf's to a CNC milling setup. The Adobe Illustratator is used
mostly for publishing.
Mike Fisher
Binder Design
http://binderdesign.com
Pete Lilja - 22 Dec 2003 15:37 GMT
> I am getting serious about completing my L3 project and would like to do
> some detailed technical drawings laying out, primarily, the recovery
> system setup and various options for same.
> Murray Lampert
I've downloaded this free CAD software for much the same purpose as you,
Murray. It's worth a look...
http://nct.digitalriver.com/fulfill/0002.16
Pete
Dan Winings - 23 Dec 2003 01:12 GMT
>I am getting serious about completing my L3 project and would like to do
>some detailed technical drawings laying out, primarily, the recovery
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>NAR 79489 L2
>CAR S589 L3
I think IMSI still has a freeware version of thier TurboCad called
Learning edition still available for download on their web site. It
will do most of what regular TurboCad will do, with only a few
features disabled. It should work for your application and if you find
you need the disable features, (the only thing I have found that is
diabled is rotated eliptical arcs), the regular version is around
$100.
Dan
>LDRS 23 - Geneseo NY - July 1 - 6, 2004
M D Lampert - 26 Dec 2003 03:26 GMT
Thank you to all who responded. I am off to download and check out the
software recommended. Looking for a low learning curve due to a definite
lack of free time. Thanks again. See you all at LDRS in Geneseo!
Murray