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Dale Martin - 30 Dec 2003 16:41 GMT
Help I need a transition for a special project.  It needs to be able to fit
a 3.9 tube on the bottom and a 2.16 or there abouts on top similar in
profile to the BMS TA 550.  Also I need a conical nose cone similar to the
Estes/ BMS BNC 5S.  Any help would be appreciated as I am not looking
forward to making these from fiberglass.
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Dale Martin
NAR 80678 L2
N0JFM
Jerry Irvine - 30 Dec 2003 17:21 GMT
> Help I need a transition for a special project.  It needs to be able to fit
> a 3.9 tube on the bottom and a 2.16 or there abouts on top similar in
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> NAR 80678 L2
> N0JFM

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Dale Martin - 30 Dec 2003 22:40 GMT
Thank you Jerry!  Just what I needed to make one if needed.
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Dale Martin
NAR 80678 L2
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> > Help I need a transition for a special project.  It needs to be able to fit
> > a 3.9 tube on the bottom and a 2.16 or there abouts on top similar in
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> Produce then publish.  http://www.usrockets.com
> My articles valuable? Donate at iKobo.com c/o my email.
Ismaeel Abdur-Rasheed - 30 Dec 2003 18:03 GMT
that particular transition is a tough one

I gave it a shot, but no joy

sorry :(

- iz

> Help I need a transition for a special project.  It needs to be able to fit
> a 3.9 tube on the bottom and a 2.16 or there abouts on top similar in
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> NAR 80678 L2
> N0JFM
Darren J Longhorn - 30 Dec 2003 23:40 GMT
>Help I need a transition for a special project.  It needs to be able to fit
>a 3.9 tube on the bottom and a 2.16 or there abouts on top similar in
>profile to the BMS TA 550.  Also I need a conical nose cone similar to the
>Estes/ BMS BNC 5S.  Any help would be appreciated as I am not looking
>forward to making these from fiberglass.

I made some transitions recently by fibre glassing cardboard. Much
easier than I anticipated. They were cosmetic rather than structural
though.

Used VCP to print out the template (including tabs) on paper. Used the
paper template to make the cardboard transition and cut out the fibre
glass. Brushed epoxy on to the card and laid on the fibre glass. Once
the epoxy started to go off, the transition was formed and tacked into
place using CA.

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RayDunakin - 31 Dec 2003 06:02 GMT
"Dale Martin" <nitram@rap.midco.net> wrote:
<<Help I need a transition for a special project.  It needs to be able to fit a
3.9 tube on the bottom and a 2.16 or there abouts on top similar in profile to
the BMS TA 550. >>

Here's how I make transitions:

Take the two tubes that you are transition, add centering rings to center the
smaller tube in the larger one. Mark the distance from the top of the large
tube to the end of the transition on the smaller tube. Glue on wedges of balsa
or urethane foam, fill the gaps with lightweight spackle, then sand to smooth
shape using sandpaper wrapped around a block of wood. Cover with a thin layer
of fiberglass using small strips of glass cloth. Sand, fill and paint. Voila!
You're done.
Robert DeHate - 31 Dec 2003 15:57 GMT
> "Dale Martin" <nitram@rap.midco.net> wrote:
> <<Help I need a transition for a special project.  It needs to be able to fit a
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> of fiberglass using small strips of glass cloth. Sand, fill and paint. Voila!
> You're done.

I did something similar to this, but I used wedges of plywood.
I used VCP to make the shroud and cut it out and glued the paper down to the
playwood.
I then cut little holes and filled each section with two part expanding
foam.
I then glassed over this.

I got the idea from :
http://www.vahpr.com/Ts/TS4.html

RDH8
Ismaeel Abdur-Rasheed - 31 Dec 2003 20:07 GMT
thanks for posting this link, Robert

I found the fin construction technique shown here very interesting

http://www.vahpr.com/Ts/TS5.html

what a great hobby this is, especially in the Internet Age  :)

- iz

> I did something similar to this, but I used wedges of plywood.
> I used VCP to make the shroud and cut it out and glued the paper down to the
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> I got the idea from :
> http://www.vahpr.com/Ts/TS4.html
Rocketmaniac - 30 Dec 2003 23:50 GMT
I know a guy that makes GREAT transitions, nosecones and boattails......
He has made me one of each of the above items.... Great work, Great Prices
and excellent turn-around time......  On The Rocket Forum he is called
"Sandman"....... His e-mail address is..... gagnello@yahoo.com

Drop him a note and see what he can do for you.... If you want, I can upload
a few pictures of his work.....

> Help I need a transition for a special project.  It needs to be able to fit
> a 3.9 tube on the bottom and a 2.16 or there abouts on top similar in
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> NAR 80678 L2
> N0JFM
Duane Phillips - 31 Dec 2003 06:33 GMT
> I know a guy that makes GREAT transitions, nosecones and boattails......
> He has made me one of each of the above items.... Great work, Great Prices
> and excellent turn-around time......  On The Rocket Forum he is called
> "Sandman"....... His e-mail address is.... <snipped>

I am sure he'll love the spam bait you just made of his address.  But some
people don't mind... hope he is one.

~ Duane Phillips.

> Drop him a note and see what he can do for you.... If you want, I can upload
> a few pictures of his work.....
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> > NAR 80678 L2
> > N0JFM
 
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