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Anyone know how this shot of opportunity was taken?

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Marcus Leech - 26 Jan 2004 16:28 GMT
This seems like an "impossible" shot.  Anyone know how it was taken?

http://marsrovers.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040125a/p150xL_per_str-B0
R2_br2.jpg

Fred Shecter - 26 Jan 2004 16:49 GMT
Yes.

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> This seems like an "impossible" shot.  Anyone know how it was taken?

http://marsrovers.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040125a/p150xL_per_str-B0
R2_br2.jpg

Len Bryan - 26 Jan 2004 17:00 GMT
>This seems like an "impossible" shot.  Anyone know how it was taken?
>
>http://marsrovers.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040125a/p150xL_per_str-B0
R2_br2.jpg

I wondered the same thing when I saw it.
Sudbury?  ;-)

Len Bryan
Fred Shecter - 26 Jan 2004 18:08 GMT
http://www.spaceflightnow.com/

http://www.spaceflightnow.com/mars/mera/040125crater.html

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040125b/1NN001EDN00PO
LP1503L000

M2-B22R3_br2.jpg

-Fred Shecter NAR 20117

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> >This seems like an "impossible" shot.  Anyone know how it was taken?
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> Len Bryan
standard - 26 Jan 2004 18:31 GMT
What he didn't say, and attempted to make you search for and read yourself,
is;

"Imagery from Opportunity is combined to generate this "overhead" view of
the rover sitting on its lander at Meridiani Planum. Credit: NASA/JPL"

steve

> http://www.spaceflightnow.com/
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> http://www.spaceflightnow.com/mars/mera/040125crater.html

http://marsrovers.jpl.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040125b/1NN001EDN
00POLP1503L000
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zoot - 26 Jan 2004 19:08 GMT
>This seems like an "impossible" shot.  Anyone know how it was taken?
>
>http://marsrovers.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040125a/p150xL_per_str-B0
R2_br2.jpg

The photograph was taken by a guy on an overhead beam at the sound
stage where all this is being filmed.

Seriously, there's a camera on a pole on the rover. Raise the pole and
take a series of shots angled down in a full circle. Computer process
the photos so that you get what would appear to be an overhead shot.

On the right side, you can see what appear to be triangles. My guess
is they're artifacts from a change in lighting or something.

Zooty
dave1472 - 27 Jan 2004 00:40 GMT
The empty black space at the center of the lander is the base of the pole on
which the camera is sitting.

Dave

> >This seems like an "impossible" shot.  Anyone know how it was taken?
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> Zooty
Cliff Sojourner - 27 Jan 2004 06:02 GMT
>>This seems like an "impossible" shot.  Anyone know how it was taken?
>>
>>http://marsrovers.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040125a/p150xL_per_str-B0
R2_br2.jpg

>
> The photograph was taken by a guy on an overhead beam at the sound
> stage where all this is being filmed.

it's not a sound stage, it is Black Rock desert.
zoot - 27 Jan 2004 13:42 GMT
>>>This seems like an "impossible" shot.  Anyone know how it was taken?
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>it's not a sound stage, it is Black Rock desert.

Clearly you are a government stooge, blinded by the conspiracy to
cover the conspira....

Oh hell. That doesn't even make sense to me.

Never mind. You win.

Zooty
Cliff Sojourner - 28 Jan 2004 06:24 GMT
>>>>This seems like an "impossible" shot.  Anyone know how it was taken?
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> Never mind. You win.

if you look closely you can see my tinfoil hat at the edge of the picture.
GCGassaway - 28 Jan 2004 06:28 GMT
This seems like an "impossible" shot.  Anyone know how it was taken?

http://marsrovers.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040125a/p150xL_per_
str-B0R2_br2.jpg
<<<<

I do not know the specifics from any definitive source, but it would be
something like this:

Don't think of it as one single photo pointing straight down. Think of it as a
camera on wide angle that is pointing outwards and down, down enough to include
straight down in its field of view. Then take a shot, rotate a bit to the
right, take a shot, rotate to the right, etc, till it's completed a full 360
degrees. Then "photo stitch" with software into one image.

You can see a few "artifacts" of the stitched photo at the very top, glaringly
so. And to the lower right, on the ground, two dark areas that have 90 degree
corners. Also on the lander itself, one of the ramp "petals" shows a great deal
of stitching irregularity, both on the outer edge and the crosshatch pattern
that is not lined up.

Now, for anyone who might have caught the first images live from Opportunity
late Saturday night, I think it was this very photo that built itself up over
time. Actually now that I think of it, it seemed like it came in with some
inner segments first, then outer segments later, as though the camera was
angled with at least two if not three different elevation angles. So rather
than thinking of this one photo-stitched in azimuth-only segments like a clock
face, it was more like dartboard segments.

It is interesting though that the arm of the camera managed to be left out of
the completed stitched image. Unless it's part of those artifacts at the top.

BTW - when ground tests were made with the Viking Lander camera prototype in
the early 1970's, the engineers made a "fun" photo where the slowly rotating
camera was shooting a horizontally-aimed panoramic 360 degree photo (the Viking
camera, IIRC, shot pretty much a vertical "slit" digital image then rotated
slightly to the next "slit" position, on and on so the adjacent slits made up
the horizontal portion of the field of view). As the camera slowly rotated past
them so they were no longer in the field of view, the engineers ran around it
in the other direction then posed again, and again, so the final completed
photo looked like there were clones of the engineers all posing together.  

- George Gassaway

HDS - 28 Jan 2004 08:11 GMT
"GCGassaway"

> I do not know the specifics from any definitive source, but it would be
> something like this:
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Stop it... you'll ruin the fun of the conspiracy.

I've taken some of those shots and inserted pictures of family and friends
waving in the background. Funny photo shop fun.

HDS
Thomas Parson - 29 Jan 2004 01:14 GMT
Hmm, speaking of which, I got this picture of Mars a week ago, anyone still
think there might be intelligent life on mars??

hehe

http://members.rushmore.com/~p5pilot/mars.jpg

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> HDS
Dave Grayvis - 29 Jan 2004 01:17 GMT
> Hmm, speaking of which, I got this picture of Mars a week ago, anyone still
> think there might be intelligent life on mars??
>
> hehe
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> http://members.rushmore.com/~p5pilot/mars.jpg

 Yeah, I heard it's staffed by aliens, like on earth.    ;)
Jerry Irvine - 29 Jan 2004 02:50 GMT
> anyone still
> think there might be intelligent life on mars??

There is now.

Made by Intel :)

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Bob Kaplow - 28 Jan 2004 19:34 GMT
> This seems like an "impossible" shot.  Anyone know how it was taken?
>
> http://marsrovers.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040125a/p150xL_per_
> str-B0R2_br2.jpg

Why does it look like there are footprints around the site?

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Phil Stein - 28 Jan 2004 14:11 GMT
By Marvin the Matian in a hot air balloon?

>This seems like an "impossible" shot.  Anyone know how it was taken?
>
>http://marsrovers.nasa.gov/gallery/press/opportunity/20040125a/p150xL_per_str-B0
R2_br2.jpg
 
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