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ROL NEWS--RCS to Enter Hobby Rocket Motor Market

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ROL News - 28 Jan 2004 21:40 GMT
RCS to Enter Hobby Rocket Motor Market
January 28, 2004
Web posted at: 4:36 PM EST

(ROL Newswire) -- RCS Rocket Motor Components, Inc. is announcing its
intention to enter the single-use and reloadable motor market for model
and high-power rocketry.

As a result of the October 2001 AeroTech fire, and in order to prevent
fire claimants from interfering with the future operations of the
business, the assets of AeroTech and Industrial Solid Propulsion (ISP),
Inc. had to be offered for sale in a bankruptcy auction. All proceeds
raised from this sale will be used to pay creditors and fire claimants,
after costs and expenses. An auction for the assets of AeroTech and ISP
is currently scheduled for February 25, 2004 in federal Bankruptcy Court
in Las Vegas at 1:30 PM.

RCS has made an opening offer to purchase all the assets of the
business. If RCS wins the auction, the existing AeroTech product line
will continue to be manufactured and sold under the "AeroTech Consumer
Aerospace" brand by RCS, with the same management and production team
currently employed by AeroTech. If RCS does not win the auction, the
company has made contingency plans to enter the market with a series of
product offerings that are sure to be a hit with co
Ismaeel Abdur-Rasheed - 28 Jan 2004 22:43 GMT
RCS to Enter Hobby Rocket Motor Market
January 28, 2004
Web posted at: 4:36 PM EST

(ROL Newswire) --  RCS Rocket Motor Components, Inc. is announcing its
intention to enter the single-use and reloadable motor market for model
and high-power rocketry.

As a result of the October 2001 AeroTech fire, and in order to prevent
fire claimants from interfering with the future operations of the
business, the assets of AeroTech and Industrial Solid Propulsion (ISP),
Inc. had to be offered for sale in a bankruptcy auction. All proceeds
raised from this sale will be used to pay creditors and fire claimants,
after costs and expenses. An auction for the assets of AeroTech and ISP
is currently scheduled for February 25, 2004 in federal Bankruptcy Court
in Las Vegas at 1:30 PM.

RCS has made an opening offer to purchase all the assets of the
business. If RCS wins the auction, the existing AeroTech product line
will continue to be manufactured and sold under the "AeroTech Consumer
Aerospace" brand by RCS, with the same management and production team
currently employed by AeroTech. If RCS does not win the auction, the
company has made contingency plans to enter the market with a series of
product offerings that are sure to be a hit with consumers. This will
include reloads designed to fit seamlessly into AeroTech and other motor
hardware. RCS has all federal, state and local licensing in place to
begin production immediately. More information will be released after
the auction takes place.

Source: ROL Newswire Service

(reposted, as original post was truncated)

- iz
Msherck - 29 Jan 2004 03:00 GMT
Who the heck is RCS, and who owns them?  What's their hobby presence now?

Mike
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Jerry Irvine - 29 Jan 2004 03:31 GMT
> Who the heck is RCS, and who owns them?  What's their hobby presence now?

RCS =Gary Rosenfield's Am/EXmotor store

www.rocketmotorparts.com

> Mike
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> C program run.  C program crash.  C programmer quit.
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Kevin B. Keehn - 29 Jan 2004 04:02 GMT
>Who the heck is RCS, and who owns them?  What's their hobby presence now?

Didn't John Coker and somebody else buy into Aerotech when Gary got divorced
and she wanted half the company.

My guess is that RCS is Rosenfield, Coker, and Somebody.
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Ismaeel Abdur-Rasheed - 29 Jan 2004 04:11 GMT
> Didn't John Coker and somebody else buy into Aerotech when Gary got divorced
> and she wanted half the company.
>
> My guess is that RCS is Rosenfield, Coker, and Somebody.

Eric Gates, if I'm not mistaken

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David Weinshenker - 29 Jan 2004 04:18 GMT
> > Didn't John Coker and somebody else buy into Aerotech when Gary got divorced
> > and she wanted half the company.
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>
> - iz

FWIW, looks like John Coker hasn't updated
www.jcrocket.com since last summer...

-dave w
Kevin B. Keehn - 29 Jan 2004 04:22 GMT
>FWIW, looks like John Coker hasn't updated
>www.jcrocket.com since last summer...

Ahhhhhhh, the power of a woman. Didn't he get married last summer? He might
have something else on his mind these days.

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David Weinshenker - 29 Jan 2004 05:33 GMT
> >FWIW, looks like John Coker hasn't updated
> >www.jcrocket.com since last summer...
>
> Ahhhhhhh, the power of a woman. Didn't he get married last summer? He might
> have something else on his mind these days.

Yeah, one of the last updates was the
flight of his "Just Married" rocket...

-dave w
Kurt Kesler - 29 Jan 2004 15:54 GMT
> > >FWIW, looks like John Coker hasn't updated
> > >www.jcrocket.com since last summer...
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>
> -dave w

He better look out, or he will join me in the "not" building anything
gang since I am in the "Now I have Kids" rocket club.

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Rich Pitzeruse - 29 Jan 2004 16:24 GMT
Welcome to the club, Kurt!! ;)

-Rich (I'm not building anything either) Pitzeruse

> He better look out, or he will join me in the "not" building anything
> gang since I am in the "Now I have Kids" rocket club.
>
> --
> Kurt (anyone have some free time for sale?) Kesler
Bob Kaplow - 29 Jan 2004 18:15 GMT
>> Didn't John Coker and somebody else buy into Aerotech when Gary got divorced
>> and she wanted half the company.
>>
>> My guess is that RCS is Rosenfield, Coker, and Somebody.
>
> Eric Gates, if I'm not mistaken

Wasn't there a third partner, Dr. Rocket. And aren't those three the folks
who walked away and turned everything over to Gary.

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Jerry Irvine - 29 Jan 2004 18:58 GMT
> >> Didn't John Coker and somebody else buy into Aerotech when Gary got
> >> divorced
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> Wasn't there a third partner, Dr. Rocket. And aren't those three the folks
> who walked away and turned everything over to Gary.

Those are the guys but walk away is not how I would have described it.

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Rhhickok - 29 Jan 2004 20:04 GMT
Please cue us in on more of the story as you heard it, Jerry.  --  Richard
"geez, if it's not one thing, it's another with Aerotech" Hickok
Jerry Irvine - 29 Jan 2004 20:17 GMT
> Please cue us in on more of the story as you heard it, Jerry.  --  Richard
> "geez, if it's not one thing, it's another with Aerotech" Hickok

I would be more comfortable replying to a specific question or topic, as
many of the open ended answers I give tend to make the rounds.

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Mark Johnson - 29 Jan 2004 20:23 GMT
> >> Didn't John Coker and somebody else buy into Aerotech when Gary got divorced
> >> and she wanted half the company.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> Wasn't there a third partner, Dr. Rocket. And aren't those three the folks
> who walked away and turned everything over to Gary.

I thought Ken Biba had a major stake, perhaps even a majority,
in AeroTech pre-fire.
Jerry Irvine - 29 Jan 2004 21:07 GMT
> > In article <_J%Rb.165308$4F2.19080848@twister.nyc.rr.com>, Ismaeel
> Abdur-Rasheed <izrmr@acceptable-gains.net> writes:
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
> I thought Ken Biba had a major stake, perhaps even a majority,
> in AeroTech pre-fire.

From the BK papers:

John Coker 276,278
Ken Biba  276,278
Dirk Gates 225,000
John Coker 200,000

My sympathies to John.

I hear his life is getting better every day. Congrats!

Jerry

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Ismaeel Abdur-Rasheed - 29 Jan 2004 21:09 GMT
> From the BK papers:
>
> John Coker 276,278
> Ken Biba  276,278
> Dirk Gates 225,000
> John Coker 200,000

and the insurance claim for the fire was paid to whom?

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Jerry Irvine - 29 Jan 2004 21:40 GMT
> > From the BK papers:
> >
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> - iz

Property damage to Gary's lawyer who knowing lawyers, absorbed most of
it.

About $1m

Personal injury covered by workman's comp.  (Great news for Aerotech).

Liability $1m+ (don't know his limits) but they were exhausted and the
claims in BK are well in excess of that.

It would appear the insurance companies are so accustomed to being
stiffed by BK they are in no hurry to get anything but whatever minor
quick cash comes from a sale. At least that would be typical practice.
You never know about any particular case.

Especially since there is an above avergae frenzy to buy up the AT
assets by rocketry zealots.

The parallel effort to bring RCS up means the only value of AT in the
final analysis is the tools.  Whoever buys those can rent them to RCS,
but we can all presume he has been feverishly molding nozzles for the
past year or so.

The risk to Rosenfield is if a Chapter 11 plan is installed, then he
would have a duty of care to AT (ie NOT RCS) (and an employment
obligation). The good news is as soon as the creditors get tired of the
cash flow they will bail and Gary can then file Chapter 7, perhpas a
year or two down the road.

In either case it looks to me as if motor production itself will
continue.

Gary was under insured for property damage. PD insurance is cheap.

Jerry

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Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net>
Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration.
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Don't you know - 29 Jan 2004 23:49 GMT
> Gary was under insured for property damage. PD insurance is cheap.

Sometimes you don't know what you got till it's gone.  Ever see the This Old
House where Tommy's brother looses his house?  His daughter had video taped
the whole place a few months before, opening every drawer and looking every
nook and cranny, to send to a friend who moved away.  With all the
collectables, dang lucky to have that tape.

> Jerry
Tom Binford - 29 Jan 2004 04:53 GMT
> >Who the heck is RCS, and who owns them?  What's their hobby presence now?
>
> Didn't John Coker and somebody else buy into Aerotech when Gary got divorced
> and she wanted half the company.
>
> My guess is that RCS is Rosenfield, Coker, and Somebody.

Rosenfield Consulting Services.

Tom
Stephen Corban - 29 Jan 2004 23:02 GMT
Rosenfield Consulting Service

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"If you build it they will come" - May 2003
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> >Who the heck is RCS, and who owns them?  What's their hobby presence now?
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Bob Kaplow - 29 Jan 2004 18:14 GMT
>> Who the heck is RCS, and who owns them?  What's their hobby presence now?
>
> RCS =Gary Rosenfield's Am/EXmotor store

Rosenfield Consulting Service

> www.rocketmotorparts.com

    Bob Kaplow    NAR # 18L    TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD"
        >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD! <<<
Kaplow Klips & Baffle:    http://nira-rocketry.org/LeadingEdge/Phantom4000.pdf
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RayDunakin - 29 Jan 2004 07:34 GMT
<< Who the heck is RCS, and who owns them?  What's their hobby presence now? >>

RCS is owned by Gary Rosenfield, and has long been a supplier of motor
components for motor-making hobbyists.
 
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