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Model Forum / General / Rockets / April 2004What exactly happens April 22nd?
What ruling is being discussed? Is it a TRA/NAR interpretation or is there something more official from the court coming down? Serious questions. I'd like to see all APCP exempted. FLyA > What ruling is being discussed? Is it a TRA/NAR interpretation or is > there something more official from the court coming down? > > Serious questions. I'd like to see all APCP exempted. All APCP in PADS is already exempted. What do you want? Bomb making APCP exempted too? INTENDED USE. > FLyA  SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com My articles valuable? Donate http://tinyurl.com/2hmgv >All APCP in PADS is already exempted. What do you want? Bomb making APCP >exempted too? What's happening April 22nd? That's the question. Anyone besides the resident fish want to take a stab at it? FLyA on the PlaYA Jerry wrote: << What do you want? Bomb making APCP exempted too? >> Jerry, who makes bombs out of APCP? On April 22 The new season of MXC on Spike TV at 10:00 est. ------------------------------------- Jim Chambers ------------- NAR 80299 L1 ------------------------------------- F.A.R.T. Friendly American Rocket Technologies Friendly American Rocket Team --------------------------------- God............ Grant me the Senility To Forget the People I never Liked, The Good Fortune to run into the Ones I Do, and the Eyesight To Tell The Difference ! --------------------------------- > On April 22 The new season of MXC on Spike TV at 10:00 est. ROLF ! > ------------------------------------- > Jim Chambers [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > To Tell The Difference ! > --------------------------------- > Jerry wrote: > << What do you want? Bomb making APCP exempted too? >> > > Jerry, who makes bombs out of APCP? The ATF itself. http://www.space-rockets.com/arsanews.html#atfe2 Jerry SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com My articles valuable? Donate http://tinyurl.com/2hmgv > > Jerry wrote: > > << What do you want? Bomb making APCP exempted too? >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Jerry Notice how I give specific, on-topic, citeable answers. With actual import. Jerry SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com My articles valuable? Donate http://tinyurl.com/2hmgv << What ruling is being discussed? Is it a TRA/NAR interpretation or is there something more official from the court coming down? >> I don't know exactly, all I know is that there is another hearing in court that day. TRA/NAR won't have an official statement on the recent ruling until after the hearing on the 22nd. > << What ruling is being discussed? Is it a TRA/NAR interpretation or is there > something more official from the court coming down? >> > > I don't know exactly, all I know is that there is another hearing in court that > day. TRA/NAR won't have an official statement on the recent ruling until after > the hearing on the 22nd. Yes, and the BOT and BOD have both asked us members not to to make any snap judgements in pubic until after the hoopla is over. Then we can rant one way or the other. > > << What ruling is being discussed? Is it a TRA/NAR interpretation or is > there [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > judgements in pubic until after the hoopla is over. > Then we can rant one way or the other. One thing we definitely know. The LAW has not changed for over 30 years. The hoopla was --generated-- by NAR/TRA and that hoopla is what will motivate ATF to make changes if they are made after over 30 years of silence and tolerance. If only they simply listened to Jerry. Literally. My positions are sooo on the record. SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com My articles valuable? Donate http://tinyurl.com/2hmgv >>><< What ruling is being discussed? Is it a TRA/NAR interpretation or is >> [quoted text clipped - 24 lines] > If only they simply listened to Jerry. Literally. My positions are sooo > on the record. Put this on the record, What is ACS's current address? Does ACS even have a business license?... I didn't think so. > Does ACS even have a business license? Is ACS specifically _required_ (by anyone applicable) to have a "business license"? Not everywhere _has_ business licenses, and even those places that do issue them may have varying thresholds for what qualifies for a licensing requirement. (Do you have a security clearance for that electric skateboard?) -dave w > > Does ACS even have a business license? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > -dave w They are in Kaylafornia.... for dem rocket motors jerry has stashed..:) Jerry wrote: << One thing we definitely know. The LAW has not changed for over 30 years. >> No, but the ATF's interpretation of it has changed, just as other agencies change interpretations of their regs from time to time. << The hoopla was --generated-- by NAR/TRA and that hoopla is what will motivate ATF to make changes if they are made after over 30 years of silence and tolerance. >> Bull. The ATF saw the hobby growing and decided they had to be "proactive" and nip it in the bud. That's on the record -- check InfoCentral at ROL. > Jerry wrote: > << One thing we definitely know. The LAW has not changed for over 30 years. >> [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > Bull. The ATF saw the hobby growing and decided they had to be "proactive" and > nip it in the bud. That's on the record -- check InfoCentral at ROL. By going to Bruce Kelly and Chuck Rogers at a NFPA meeting! :) SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com My articles valuable? Donate http://tinyurl.com/2hmgv >What ruling is being discussed? Is it a TRA/NAR interpretation or is >there something more official from the court coming down? I leave for Washington, DC the morning of April 21 to meet with counsel and legislative advisors. We attend the hearing on the 22nd, and will have a more complete statement after that meeting. Again, I would recommend that those who are not admitted to the bar, and who do not have experience in an administrative law practice, not make interpertations about what the implications of the opinion are. = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = Mark B. Bundick mbundick - at - earthlink - dot - net NAR President www - dot - nar - dot - org "A dark night in a city that knows how to keep its secrets, but high above the quiet streets on the twelfth floor of the Acme Building, one man is still trying to find the answers to life's persistent questions. Guy Noir, Private Eye." >We attend the hearing on the 22nd, > and will have a more complete statement after that meeting. Looking forward to hearing about it soon. KA-PLA! Randy > >We attend the hearing on the 22nd, > > and will have a more complete statement after that meeting. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > KA-PLA! > Randy well, it is april 23. what happened? > > >We attend the hearing on the 22nd, > > > and will have a more complete statement after that meeting. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > well, it is april 23. what happened? Judge didn't be bad on us. He don't hate me. Formal legal statement from NAR and Tripoli due soon, maybe this weekend. NAR and Tripoli supposedly will instruct members how to act, what is "legal" and such now that the ruling is done. steve > > "Randy" <randyolb@charter.net> wrote in message > news:<1086c1nf2ko8v2b@corp.supernews.com>... [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > > steve Waiting eagerly towards being programmed in "right-think" by my masters... NOT. But I'll listen to what they say so I can play parrot when necessary for self-preservation. Always know the Party line. "Keep your friends close, your enemies closer, and never let your leaders out of your (gun)sight..." I forget who said that but he was a wise man. +McG+ > > > "Randy" <randyolb@charter.net> wrote in message > > news:<1086c1nf2ko8v2b@corp.supernews.com>... [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > a wise man. > +McG+ ROFL!! SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com My articles valuable? Donate http://tinyurl.com/2hmgv > > "Randy" <randyolb@charter.net> wrote in message > news:<1086c1nf2ko8v2b@corp.supernews.com>... [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > steve Blind leading the blind. SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com My articles valuable? Donate http://tinyurl.com/2hmgv |
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