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Model Forum / General / Rockets / April 2004Conclusion
Let it be concluded: Jerry Irvine is not a legitimate High Power Rocket Motor Manufacturer. He is not a legitimate rocket motor dealer. He is not being singled out by NAR and TRA because of a personal vendetta, but because his "business model" is not within the current confines of the orgs. certification service outlines. If change is required of the NAR or TRA, then there are more appropriate avenues to pursue that change. With our help, Jerry has become a very successful Troll on this newsgroup. He is a sad man, his only real concern is to disrupt our dialog. Maybe it is time for us to discontinue aiding and abetting him. No, I'm not the moderator, just a concerned citizen making a suggestion. steve It is very sad. > Let it be concluded: > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > steve } Let it be concluded: After all these years? Fat chance. Too many peoples' hobby is arguing extraneous bullshit in this newsgroup for it to ever end. I concur completely ... when ever people ask me about attaining model or high power rocket information, I never suggest or even hint to them the existence of this news group. IMHO, it would turn them off from the hobby ... soil their conception of what we trully are. With all the banter and bullshit that goes on here, you never see it at launches ... well at least I didn't and don't anymore. I think even Jerry "the Skippy" Irvine could show up at a launch, unannounced, and get a few hand shakes and be asked for an autograph or two ... no really! > } Let it be concluded: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Too many peoples' hobby is arguing extraneous bullshit in this > newsgroup for it to ever end. } With all the banter and bullshit that goes on here, you never see it } at } launches ... well at least I didn't and don't anymore. I think even } Jerry } "the Skippy" Irvine could show up at a launch, unannounced, and get a } few hand } shakes and be asked for an autograph or two ... no really! Point. They do here what they'd be afraid to do in 3space, or at least have the decency not to pull it off around others. P.s. to Jerry ... Jerry please don't go anywhere near Kosdon ... he probably would end up in prision after he kills you :( > } Let it be concluded: > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Too many peoples' hobby is arguing extraneous bullshit in this > newsgroup for it to ever end. > P.s. to Jerry ... > > Jerry please don't go anywhere near > Kosdon ... he probably would end up > in prision after he kills you :( Dang... I thought I heard Frank and Jerry had finally made peace after all these years? -dave w >>P.s. to Jerry ... >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > -dave w That's skippy's claim, not Frank's. >That's skippy's claim, not Frank's. Frank has to get in line. Skippy Irvine has more enemies in rocketry than anyone. >>That's skippy's claim, not Frank's. > > Frank has to get in line. Skippy Irvine has more enemies in rocketry > than anyone. Yes, there Are a lot of "members" in the skippy irvine fan club. > Yes, there Are a lot of "members" in the skippy irvine fan club. Looking forward to seeing the Skipster at LDRS. He's going to look quite the idiot at an event sponsored by an organization he spends all year slamming. But then again he's never been the sharpest tool in the shed... TF >> Yes, there Are a lot of "members" in the skippy irvine fan club. > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > TF If you have a camera, please make sure you get some pictures (or video!) of rocketry's loneliest "vendor". > > Yes, there Are a lot of "members" in the skippy irvine fan club. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > But then again he's never been the sharpest tool in the shed... A case of Pot - Kettle? Hmmm... AND an Altopia User?!? > >That's skippy's claim, not Frank's. > > Frank has to get in line. Skippy Irvine has more enemies in rocketry > than anyone. Hmm... I see a lot of people saying "Jerry has so many enemies" or "Many people will say they've heard that someone said there are a lot of awful stories going around about him" or something similar. I see much more of this second-order hearsay than I do of actual "enemies" coming forward with actual claims - and in the cases where the story is actually told, it's usually more like "I ordered a kit from Jerry and it took a long time to arrive; the nose cone was nice but the wood parts seemed thin and splintery" or something: valid criticism perhaps, but scarcely grounds for a multi-year grudge... -dave w >I see much more of this second-order hearsay than I do of actual >"enemies" coming forward with actual claims - and in the cases >where the story is actually told, it's usually more like "I ordered >a kit from Jerry and it took a long time to arrive; the nose cone was >nice but the wood parts seemed thin and splintery" or something: valid >criticism perhaps, but scarcely grounds for a multi-year grudge... David if you were in prison do you think you would be someone's bitch? You definitely have a feminine side in your protection of Skippy. Is this what they call man-love? TF > >I see much more of this second-order hearsay than I do of actual > >"enemies" coming forward with actual claims - and in the cases [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > You definitely have a feminine side in your protection of Skippy. Is > this what they call man-love? Now you're being crude. This has nothing to do with anybody's sex life (in or out of prison). -dave w >>>I see much more of this second-order hearsay than I do of actual >>>"enemies" coming forward with actual claims - and in the cases [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > -dave w All He said was, "man-love". Are you homophobic? > > Now you're being crude. > > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > All He said was, "man-love". Are you homophobic? It's got nothing to do with all that. Some folks seem to be in the habit of flaming Jerry for the mere sour sport of it (like elementary-school children with their playground exclusion games: "tease the weirdo" by whatever name, etc.) - my impulse is to simply try to damp down that sort of noise when I see it get going (even at the expense of finding myself taking a contrary position to some who I might, on other matters, consider to be reasonable posters). That's just how I feel about the situation - I don't consider it a "feminine" or "masculine" attitude at all. -dave w > > > Now you're being crude. > > > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > -dave w Point. This should be in the FAQ.  SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com My articles valuable? Donate http://tinyurl.com/2hmgv >>>That's skippy's claim, not Frank's. >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > -dave w Talk to ANY former business partner of skippy's, ANY of them, and they will all tell you the exact same thing. You do know that Frank and others, have a Fraud judgment against "skippy", don't you? Hey don't forget that Kosdon's building was the victim of an arsen fire soon after the judgement was handed down ... ah the memories from years past ... I think if Skippy went to prision, he would be everyone's BITCH. No one knows what its like to be the bad man ... to be the sad man ... behind Kangaroo eyes ... > >>>That's skippy's claim, not Frank's. > >> [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > You do know that Frank and others, have a Fraud judgment against > "skippy", don't you? > No one knows what its like to be the bad man ... to be the sad man ... > behind Kangaroo eyes ... My problem is that down here "skippy the bush kangaroo" is a much revered icon, held near and dear to many generations of children who grew up with him. I always liked the tag he received over on ROLChat "irswine", kinda sums it up.. I do recall someone posting a very elegant piece of prose in here some time back about some sort of disease or something (try are search on irswine) Given recent rants, I am beginning to think that report has some basis in fact. David > > >That's skippy's claim, not Frank's. > > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > -dave w It doesn't take much on rmr. Bill on delivery killed their commercial traction so they had to resort to fiction. Jerry SignatureJerry Irvine, Box 1242, Claremont, California 91711 USA Opinion, the whole thing. <mail to:01rocket@gte.net> Please bring common sense back to rocketry administration. Produce then publish. http://www.usrockets.com My articles valuable? Donate http://tinyurl.com/2hmgv |
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