Model Forum / General / Rockets / April 2004

I'm sure. Maybe it's just me, but it's hard for me to digest most of what is
in print nowadays. I imagine a reputable paper in a capital city tries to be
on the up-and-up.

Concurred. Anytime I wear a HD T, I always get the corner of the eye looks,
probably via my PT and goatee, too. Even get asked if I "ride". By a female
NYPD patrolperson once even.

Sheesh, sounds like if you and I hook up at LDRS, Andy and Barney'd have we
longhair types in the hoosegow, dare I say, in a NY minute?  :-)>

And a few a few loonies for their hassle. I'd LOOOOOVE to be a fly on the
wall when those hotshots have their moment with their administrators (given,
if it were true).

Ouch!

Ditto. I imagine I shouldn't seem so haughty since NYC invented graft.

I went to the Kennedy Space Center last week and after a airline security
type search, proceeded to the Visitor Center Shop and they had C11 Estes
motors stacked next to one fine collection of Saturn V's for a visitor deal
of $129.00! So they pry weren't looking for rocket motors, or if they were,
a would-be terrorist would pry be wise to bring a Visa card and buy motors
after the security check.

Not sure what you would do with them, maybe make a shoe bomb and burn off
your toe or something in the Imax Theater.

Geez Tod!
How the heck are you gonna make off with a Saturn V or a shuttle in a SUV
that small?  ; )

Randy

<rant = on>

And I'd recommend that people stand up for their damn rights!!!

I'm so sick of this nonsense, that because somebody CAN use something
legitimate for an illegitimate purpose, that everybody must pay the price!!!

My wife lives on Sudafed when she has a cold.  That stuff isn't
particularly cheap, and so when it's on sale, I stock up.  However, if I
go into the store and buy more than three, I'm told I'm committing a
crime, and they can't let me do it.

Here's what's so ludicrous -- if I buy three, then get back in line and
buy three more, I'm legal.

Also, buying three packs of 12 capsules is treated the same as buying
three packs of 24 or 48 capsules (hmmmm....).

WHY, OH WHY, don't we just punish people who commit the crime of
MANUFACTURING ILLEGAL DRUGS, instead of punishing people who are using
them for legitimate and legal purposes.

<rant = off>

David Erbas-White

OTOH, if you are making a special trip to Canada to buy medications,
you probably want to buy about a years supply, depending on shelf
life, etc.

I've made one trip through Canada (at least as an adult), on the way back
from NARAM-43. On the way in, they wnated to know if we had any guns (nope,
and the rocket motors had taken a different car home). On the way home, they
wanted to know what we bought (nothing but lunch/dinner).

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Marcus,

So what does this have to do with LDRS?

Besides the fact that most other Canadians attending LDRS will not
likely have your travel history, any issue should be with crossing the
border, not about going to LDRS. It's like using a headline that says
"Man Killed by SUV". No, the man was killed by someone driving the
SUV. Likewise when you title the subject "Now I wonder about going to
LDRS" you distort the issue.

That said... maybe you hit the threshold of the number of times you
could enter the US for the year? Unless you have a green card you
can't just keep crossing the border an unlimited number of times. You
do know that every time you cross into the US, your lic plate # is
punched in the computer & recorded? They probbaly already knew what
they were going to ask you before you even rolled your window down.
Also I'd like to point out that "working illegally" in the US now
falls under the Dept of Homeland Security's (DHS) bureau - U.S.
Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) (formerly NIS),... NOT
the Dept of Justice/John Ashcroft - who you mistakenly wondered about
giving secret directives to harrass Canadians. If you feel the need to
place blame - Secretary Tom Ridge is the head of the DHS.

Again... I hardly classify that as harrassment. Remember... it's a
privledge to enter the US, not a right (and I expect the same with
Canada). There does not have to be a reason to deny you entry... and
personally I wouldn't give them one by making public complaints on
rmr. ;)

Doug
BRS Inc - Secretary
LDRS 23 - Web Manager

I had a severely crumpled 24x30" photograph - don't even remember what it
depicted as it was migrating garbage - in my trunk during my stop.
Initially, I was asked vitals, i.e. my home address, name , my home address,
employer's name, employer's address, whom I was visiting, my home address,
what I did for a living, where I worked, my home address, what I did for a
living, if I was conducting any business in Canada, my home address. I, too,
kept my cool 'cause I know I had nothing to hide but also that I should
remain collected. Turns out that when they found I was in the imaging
business, the crumpled, torn, greasy, brake-fluid-laden became a bone of
contention. I simply stated that I was visiting my then-wife-to-be (as she
finished up her personal affairs before moving here) and had no reason to
conduct any commerce in Canada. I also stated that the piece of junk with
the Kodak watermark was simply garbage (my car goes through moments of
disarray as anyone else's) and I made no attempt to conceal it.

Then, the ill-fated Tylenol fiasco ensued and I was thanked for my
compliance and sent packing toot-sweet.

Another funny moment I just recalled was when my FiloFax was being "purged"
of loose documents. One of the team raises a phot I had of my ex and states
loudly, "Hey, who's this?". When I replied it was girlfriend, he did that
misogynistic head-bob and mumbled, "Pretty nice, pretty nice..." I wanted to
puke but instead I thought of his miserable chicken-boner skunky
misanthropic man-hating wife wearing her staple size 24 housecoat, flossing
her brown teeth in their doublewide. That eased my tensions a tad... :-)>