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HelpMe: Cutting Fibreglass/Carbon Tubing

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Murray Lampert - 23 Jul 2004 19:54 GMT
I have decided to build only fibreglass/carbon from now on. It doesn't burn as
well as QT, which for me is a huge advantage.

What is the best way to cut fibreglass and/or carbon tubing in the 2" - 6"
range? I have plenty of power tools but nothing
like a bandsaw, which I imagine might be ideal.

Suggestions? I would really like a nice clean square edge - am taking an inch or
two of body tubing to place over a length of
fibreglass coupler tubing in order to make an electronics bay with accesable
switches (several).

The thought has crossed my mind to just take the body tube down to the local
Home Depot and get them to cut it on their
bandsaw.

TIA

Murray
Phil Stein - 23 Jul 2004 20:14 GMT
A Radial arm saw or an electric miter saw.  Band saws do nicley IF the
throat is deep enough. 8-)  They don't cut a right angle as well as
the other two.

Alos, I think Rocketry Online has an article for a jig to cut tubes.

>I have decided to build only fibreglass/carbon from now on. It doesn't burn as
>well as QT, which for me is a huge advantage.
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>
>Murray
Anthony Cesaroni - 23 Jul 2004 20:15 GMT
We use diamond circular saw blades for our production carbon and glass
windings. You can find consumer versions that are used for cutting ceramic
tiles etc. Abrasive cutoff saws can be used but the grade selection is
important. Wet cutting will give you more flexibility in that regard and
prevent burning of the matrix and delamination. You can rent ceramic saw
setups if you only plan on a few cuts. A band saw will make a mess unless
you use a blade with a carbide edge designed for composites. Many industrial
supply houses carry them.

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http://www.cesaronitech.com/
(905) 887-2370 x222 Toronto
(410) 571-8292  Annapolis

> I have decided to build only fibreglass/carbon from now on. It doesn't burn as
> well as QT, which for me is a huge advantage.
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>
> Murray
Phil Stein - 23 Jul 2004 20:39 GMT
Our Home Depot has a big tile cutting saw & they cut stuff for
customers.  Maybe try that.

>We use diamond circular saw blades for our production carbon and glass
>windings. You can find consumer versions that are used for cutting ceramic
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>>
>> Murray
Alex Mericas - 23 Jul 2004 20:30 GMT
Put a pipe clamp around the tube, making sure that it is on
squarely.  Use a hobby saw, guided by the clamp.  When you get to
the screw, loosen the clamp and rotate making sure you keep it square.

This method usually requires a bit extra work to square up the cut,
but it is very fast and easy.

> I have decided to build only fibreglass/carbon from now on. It doesn't burn as
> well as QT, which for me is a huge advantage.
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>
> Murray
Chuck Rudy - 23 Jul 2004 20:33 GMT
> I have decided to build only fibreglass/carbon from now on. It doesn't burn as
> well as QT, which for me is a huge advantage.
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>
> Murray

I'm using a 12" slide miter saw.  However using a smaller miter saw is
possible by eyeballing and making two or three cuts.  The cut with the
12" is incredible and does up to 5" tubing perfectly square.  Don't make
the cut too slow as to melt the glas, nor too quickly which can make it
chip.

Chuck

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Chuck Rudy - 24 Jul 2004 01:31 GMT
>> I have decided to build only fibreglass/carbon from now on. It doesn't
>> burn as well as QT, which for me is a huge advantage.
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>
> Chuck

Forgot one little item......an 80 tooth carbide blade.  Though it's not
one of it's intended uses I've made a lot of money on people betting me
I can't cut structural steel metal box tube with a carbide blade.  Kills
the blade but makes a beautiful cut in the 3/4 inch thick steel.  A
cheap quick fix.  8<)

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Bob Kaplow - 23 Jul 2004 20:48 GMT
> I have decided to build only fibreglass/carbon from now on. It doesn't burn as
> well as QT, which for me is a huge advantage.
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> fibreglass coupler tubing in order to make an electronics bay with accesable
> switches (several).

I'd look at a wet saw with a diamond blade. The water will keep the dust out
of the air and out of your lungs. Either material will eat conventional
blades for lunch.

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David Weinshenker - 23 Jul 2004 20:51 GMT
> I have decided to build only fibreglass/carbon from now on. It doesn't burn as
> well as QT, which for me is a huge advantage.
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>
> Murray

I've done quite all right with a hacksaw and a good fresh sharp blade on
Hawk Mountain 6" x .074" fiberglass tubing. The trick is to mark a clean
line on the tubing (wrap a strip of paper around it for a marking guide)
and make several passes with the saw - start with a light, carefully aligned
"scratch cut" and go all the way around like that until you have a continuous
groove that will guide the saw for deeper cutting. It seems best to get the
whole groove most of the way through the material before cutting all the
way in any spot, and when you start breaking through, try to leave a few
evenly spaced small points of connection as long as possible: you don't
want the cut section to try to flop loose while there's still a thick
spot that will tear the surrounding material.

(I've tried the round abrasive grit blades sold for cutting ceramic
tile; they work, but not really any better than ordinary steel blades,
and the regular blades give a narrower cut.)

The above method doesn't leave an _absolutely_ clean edge, but it's close
enough to clean up nicely with a few strokes of a file.

-dave w
default - 23 Jul 2004 21:45 GMT
"David Weinshenker" <daze39@earthlink.net> wrote in message

> I've done quite all right with a hacksaw and a good fresh sharp blade on
> Hawk Mountain 6" x .074" fiberglass tubing. The trick is to mark a clean
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> want the cut section to try to flop loose while there's still a thick
> spot that will tear the surrounding material.

> The above method doesn't leave an _absolutely_ clean edge, but it's close
> enough to clean up nicely with a few strokes of a file.
>
> -dave w

Ditto.  I cut tubes the same method, whether they are cardboard, phenolic, or glass.  I
also use the tube clamp after making the true line with a peice of paper.

David described the cutting method very well.

steve
Gene Costanza - 24 Jul 2004 15:58 GMT
Mr. Lampert, I learned this method from Mssrs. Bloom and Weinshenker some
time back. I use this method as well. Works great, taking into account that
I'm not the handyman these gentlemen (and others here) are.
Murray Lampert - 30 Jul 2004 03:26 GMT
Thank you all for your input. I am going to try the hacksaw method first.
Then will try talking my local tile supplier into cutting the tube for me
with his wet cutting setup. Thanks again.
Murray

>Mr. Lampert, I learned this method from Mssrs. Bloom and Weinshenker some
>time back. I use this method as well. Works great, taking into account that
>I'm not the handyman these gentlemen (and others here) are.
 
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