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launching rockets question, not specific to portland oregon area, but any specifics would help!

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Jim - 29 Aug 2004 04:49 GMT
This may be a dumb question  (aren't statements like this ALWAYS
followed by a dumb question?)

Anyway...

I live in the portland oregon area, and I just bought an estes starter
kit.  I want to launch this thing with my children, and have not had
anything to do with this hobby since the 5th grade (1980)

So my question is this, can I just go to a city park and light it up?
What do I have to do so I won't get arrested?

are there certain rules/regulations that anyone who might live in this
area can clue me in to?  I've done web searches, and I can't find
anything prohibiting this, but I can't believe that I can just walk
down to a local public park and launch it.

Any help would be great!

Thanks everyone!
David Erbas-White - 29 Aug 2004 05:13 GMT
Can't speak for Oregon, but I can't believe that it would be tougher
than California, which requires 1) permission from the land owner, and
2) permission from the fire department.  Often, you will find that
permission from the land owner requires proof of insurance.

Your best bet is to find a local NAR section (check www.nar.org to see
if there is one near you), and contact the local club to find out what
the rules are in your area.

David Erbas-White

>This may be a dumb question  (aren't statements like this ALWAYS
>followed by a dumb question?)
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>Thanks everyone!
>  
George Rachor - 29 Aug 2004 07:09 GMT
Specifically for Portland Oregon your going to find most parks have specific regulations prohibiting rocketry.  If you find a school that will allow this let me know.

Local contacts are:

www.oregonrocketry.com which hosts both a NAR and TRA section.
There is a local launch coming up in Sheridan in September.

George Rachor

>Can't speak for Oregon, but I can't believe that it would be tougher
>than California, which requires 1) permission from the land owner, and
>2) permission from the fire department.  Often, you will find that
>permission from the land owner requires proof of insurance.

>Your best bet is to find a local NAR section (check www.nar.org to see
>if there is one near you), and contact the local club to find out what
>the rules are in your area.

>David Erbas-White

>>This may be a dumb question  (aren't statements like this ALWAYS
>>followed by a dumb question?)
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>>Thanks everyone!
>>  

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Mfreptiles - 29 Aug 2004 06:34 GMT
Hi Jim,

Model rockets Estes size are usually fine most anywhere there are not signs
prohibiting it.  Some city parks or schools do not allow it however. The best
place to ask would be the northwest rocketry mail list.  I'm down here in
Salem, where even model rockets are banned unless you buy a permit, where they
let you launch rockets in only one park in town.  Hardly worth it.

If you are interested in attending a club launch where we launch hundreds of
rockets, the local club has a launch near Sheridan coming up two weekends from
now.  Newbies and born again rocketeers are always welcomed.  We've got a great
group of people in Oregonrocketry.

For full details including a launch schedule and directions out to the site,
visit http://oregonrocketry.com  Be sure to sign up for the mail list!

Mike Fisher
Binder Design Rocketry
http://binderdesign.com
Pat Keith - 29 Aug 2004 16:45 GMT
I live quite close.  Perhaps I'll take a look.
Mfreptiles - 29 Aug 2004 18:53 GMT
>I live quite close.  Perhaps I'll take a look.

That's what I did five years ago.  Now I'm certified to level 3 and own a
rocket kit business.....go figure.  :)

Mike Fisher
Binder Design
http://binderdesign.com
EldredP - 29 Aug 2004 12:47 GMT
>So my question is this, can I just go to a city park and light it up?
>What do I have to do so I won't get arrested?
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>anything prohibiting this, but I can't believe that I can just walk
>down to a local public park and launch it.

That's what I'm doing.  Granted, I'm not in your area, but it may be similar.
I figure that if there's a local ordinance against it, the police will probably
just give you a warning.  

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AlMax - 29 Aug 2004 17:11 GMT
> >So my question is this, can I just go to a city park and light it up?
> >What do I have to do so I won't get arrested?
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> I figure that if there's a local ordinance against it, the police will probably
> just give you a warning.

That's what most people do with model rockets. they go to a park or school
and shoot them.
If their is a problem, someone tells them, and they leave.
If not, they have fun.

All bets are off in the country of California. Fred will jump in with their
rules any second now.
I'm sure permits and fines are the order of the day there.
David Weinshenker - 29 Aug 2004 18:46 GMT
> All bets are off in the country of California. Fred will jump in with their
> rules any second now.
> I'm sure permits and fines are the order of the day there.

For model rockets you need the consent
of the local fire marshals and the site
owner. (Depending on the area, the fire
marshal may be more willing to give his
consent to organized groups, who tend to
be percieved as less likely than lone
fliers to interfere with the airplanes
or start grass fires (and a large group
has a better chance at dealing effectively
with such a fire if it does happen).

-dave w
Chad L. Ellis - 29 Aug 2004 14:53 GMT
from: jim@jim.jim
Troll
> This may be a dumb question  (aren't statements like this ALWAYS
> followed by a dumb question?)
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Thanks everyone!
Jim - 29 Aug 2004 16:29 GMT
thats called not wanting spam - not being a troll.

Thanks to everyone for the info!!

>from: jim@jim.jim
>Troll
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
>>
>> Thanks everyone!
T - 29 Aug 2004 21:15 GMT
> from: jim@jim.jim
> Troll

What?

TBerk
Chad L. Ellis - 30 Aug 2004 04:08 GMT
It was an inside joke.

> > from: jim@jim.jim
> > Troll
>
> What?
>
> TBerk
Jon Ruehle - 30 Aug 2004 18:32 GMT
Jim,

Call the City of Portland on the phone, but you'd be better off just
finding a NAR section like O.R.E.O.

We (Challenger 498) got with Harris County down here in Houston and
have permission to fly at the park and have a great time. We had about
20 people show on Saturday, including one from Austin and Lake
Jackson.

We have a very active club with 20-30 active members, and a group
server that's going crazy -- currently at 1400+ messages a month.

What's the name of the park? I know some guys up there with O.R.E.O.
Privately email me your phone number and I will hook you guys up.
You'll like it!

--Jon

> This may be a dumb question  (aren't statements like this ALWAYS
> followed by a dumb question?)
[quoted text clipped - 16 lines]
>
> Thanks everyone!
 
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